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packman

(16,296 posts)
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:01 PM Apr 2018

Alex Jones, Backtracking, Now Says Sandy Hook Shooting Did Happen

Source: http://wshu.org/post/alex-jones-backtracking-now-s

Talk show host Alex Jones has responded to a lawsuit from the parents of two children killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Conn. Jones has repeatedly claimed on his website, Infowars, that the shooting was staged.

In a YouTube video, Jones said he now believes the shooting really happened, and that the families are being used by the Democratic Party and the news media. Jones invited the parents onto his program for a discussion about guns


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And the reason , you may ask:

The plaintiffs are the parents of Jesse Heslin and Noah Pozner, who were among the 20 students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School who died in the shooting. They’re seeking at least $1 million from Jones. The lawsuit alleges Jones’s misinformation led conspiracy theorists to make death threats against the families of shooting victims.
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Alex Jones, Backtracking, Now Says Sandy Hook Shooting Did Happen (Original Post) packman Apr 2018 OP
Of course, stupid fat mouth was SURE to change his stupid fat mouth tune the Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #1
I can just see True Blue American Apr 2018 #6
yes - nt Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #9
Too bad so few have taken this step. calimary Apr 2018 #8
That's why I turn off Megyn Kelly whenever I see her HopeAgain Apr 2018 #19
I think I saw her last night or whenever - on Brian Williams's nightly MSNBC hour. calimary Apr 2018 #26
Too late. The damage has been done. And its been recorded by the radio station. Lots of evidence. notdarkyet Apr 2018 #15
good Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #17
+2,000 Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #20
He'll change it right back after the lawsuits conclude. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #24
Juanita Jeans's son is suing jones Gothmog Apr 2018 #2
And she is a poster here, right? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #12
Nope Gothmog Apr 2018 #14
Juanita Jean True Blue American Apr 2018 #41
Yep Gothmog Apr 2018 #43
My first notice of her was on CSPan True Blue American Apr 2018 #44
Bankrupt this asshole................... turbinetree Apr 2018 #3
Exactly right. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #7
Run him off the air. calimary Apr 2018 #11
This should change nothing matt819 Apr 2018 #4
Up to and including his advertisers Rural_Progressive Apr 2018 #25
Amen! NT SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #45
Does this make him unliable? TexasProgresive Apr 2018 #5
No, he is liable for the past acts if the parents can prove the elements of defamation. bench scientist Apr 2018 #34
People should sue his hate filled soul every chance they get! BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #10
Alex ain't helping his own case. HopeAgain Apr 2018 #13
Problem these days is that there are no consequences in making @#$&*() up. Orange Free State Apr 2018 #16
Part of the agreement could be a cease and desist from communications on air and internet UpInArms Apr 2018 #18
it doesn't matter now, Alex... paleotn Apr 2018 #21
I hope this doesn't get them to drop the lawsuit. blueinredohio Apr 2018 #22
Too little, too late, Jones. Disappear forever. (nt) Paladin Apr 2018 #23
So, he just found another way to insult the parents and another basis for a lawsuit. Doodley Apr 2018 #27
Seth Rich's family sue Jones and Hannity yet? mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #28
A few years ago ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #29
Amazing what a GOOD lawsuit can accomplish without ever going to court!! 7962 Apr 2018 #30
I Hope They Destroy Him and Everything He Hold Dear Leith Apr 2018 #31
Jagoffs like Jones try to hide behind the 1st Amendment. Jedi Guy Apr 2018 #32
Alex Jones can rot in hell ornotna Apr 2018 #33
I tuned into him tuesday on shortwave gay texan Apr 2018 #35
They absolutely need to go ahead with their suit! Stonepounder Apr 2018 #36
Absolutely. SergeStorms Apr 2018 #39
He publishes his filthy lie that the Sandy Hook massacre didn't happen, repeatedly for six years, Virtual Burlesque Apr 2018 #37
Oh, did Alex Jones *misspeak*? no_hypocrisy Apr 2018 #38
The damage has been done, sue this A$$hole out of business. sarcasmo Apr 2018 #40
Divorce True Blue American Apr 2018 #42

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Of course, stupid fat mouth was SURE to change his stupid fat mouth tune the
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:04 PM
Apr 2018

INSTANT someone sued stupid fat mouth.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
6. I can just see
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:09 PM
Apr 2018

Those parents coming on his show to discuss.
First his wife exposed him.

Now I hope those parents bankrupt him.

BTW, one of my internet friends was there with those parents through the tragedy.

She despises those who do what Jones did.

May he rot in hell.

calimary

(81,314 posts)
8. Too bad so few have taken this step.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:10 PM
Apr 2018

This lawsuit should have been filed a few years ago.

HOW DARE HE?????!?!?!??! If it's even possible to find someone more vile than trump, Alex Jones is it. First Amendment notwithstanding, his kind of provocative hate-spew should NOT be allowed and should be taken off the air. That bastard is a shout of "Fire!" in the proverbial crowded theater - on two legs.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
19. That's why I turn off Megyn Kelly whenever I see her
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:15 PM
Apr 2018

To think she granted him the time on network TV as if there was a legitimate reason to do so.

calimary

(81,314 posts)
26. I think I saw her last night or whenever - on Brian Williams's nightly MSNBC hour.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:20 PM
Apr 2018

She did an on-camera Q&A with him about this. She has the dubious distinction, now, of being the go-to gal on all things Alex Jones. Seems somehow like poetic justice.

I don't watch her show either. NOT interested. NOT buying. Watergate taught me that. DO NOT reward bad guys. Don't reward villains with your patronage or your purchases. Don't buy books by crooks. She's forever tainted and corrupted by Pox Noise, so I feel as though she's, in the words of that ambitious scheming asshole Kevin McCarthy said about the effort to drive down Hillary's popularity numbers, "not trustable."

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
41. Juanita Jean
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 01:55 AM
Apr 2018

Is the new Molly Ivan’s. I started reading her blog long ago.

She lives in ,” Hot Tub Tom DeLays old District!”

calimary

(81,314 posts)
11. Run him off the air.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:11 PM
Apr 2018

AND off the internet.

When these jerks don't play nicely with their toys, any responsible parent or guardian must, should - and does - take their toys AWAY.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
4. This should change nothing
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:07 PM
Apr 2018

He's a vile, degenerate, evil slug.

And the $1 million is too low. Wipe him and his business off the face of the earth. Tens of millions. And name everyone associated with his scam.

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
34. No, he is liable for the past acts if the parents can prove the elements of defamation.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:38 PM
Apr 2018

The general elements of defamation are:

First, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made a false and defamatory statement concerning the plaintiff.
Second, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made an unprivileged publication to a third party.
Third, the plaintiff must prove that the publisher acted at least negligently in publishing the communication.
Fourth, in some cases, the plaintiff must prove special damages. ( this is the difference between libel per se and libel per quod. the parents will likely bring a per se action and thus will not have to prove this last element).

Examples of defamatory statements are virtually limitless and may include any of the following:

A communication that suggests the plaintiff was involved in a serious crime involving moral turpitude or a felony
A communication that exposes a plaintiff to ridicule
A communication that reflects negatively on the plaintiff's character, morality, or integrity
A communication that impairs the plaintiff's financial well-being
A communication that suggests that the plaintiff suffers from a physical or mental defect that would cause others to refrain from associating with the plaintiff

The types of defamatory statements per se are generally listed in a state statute, so it varies from state to state. I'm In Illinois defamatory statements per se in Illinois are ones which :

States that the plaintiff is infected with a “loathsome communicable disease” (e.g. a sexually transmitted disease, HIV, hepatitis, etc.)
States that the plaintiff has a lack of ability to perform their professional duties, or otherwise harms the plaintiff in their professional reputation
States that the plaintiff lacks integrity in their professional duties
States that the plaintiff has committed fornication or adultery
States that the plaintiff has committed a criminal act

bench

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
10. People should sue his hate filled soul every chance they get!
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:10 PM
Apr 2018

Get him and all the similar hate mongers out of our lives. Sue Fux Ruse and all the other conspiracy/RWNJ cockroaches out of their garbage jobs.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
13. Alex ain't helping his own case.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:12 PM
Apr 2018

He's like Hannity... too stupid to know when to shut up. I hope they sue him off the internet.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
16. Problem these days is that there are no consequences in making @#$&*() up.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:13 PM
Apr 2018

In essence, truth and honesty are now obsolete. If suing one of these pseudo-journalists for a big chunk of change produces a consequence that will make them be more truthful (and otherslike them definitely are watching and may be forced to be more honest), I am all for it.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
18. Part of the agreement could be a cease and desist from communications on air and internet
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:15 PM
Apr 2018

(In my dreams)

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
21. it doesn't matter now, Alex...
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:25 PM
Apr 2018

you fuck! The damage is done and you will have to pay. I hope he ends up like Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. Seth Rich's family sue Jones and Hannity yet?
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:38 PM
Apr 2018

Seriously one of the greatest things EVER for this Nation will be if this family wins $1M from asshole Jones.

We NEED THIS to happen, badly.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
29. A few years ago ...
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:40 PM
Apr 2018

A few years ago Alex Jones said he'd believe Sandy Hook was real when a parent dug up their child
and showed him (Jones) the dead body.

What a guy.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
30. Amazing what a GOOD lawsuit can accomplish without ever going to court!!
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:59 PM
Apr 2018

Alex Jones makes millions off of his sheep. Peddling conspiracy theories on 9/11 and everything SINCE. Maybe these folks can make him cough it up

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
32. Jagoffs like Jones try to hide behind the 1st Amendment.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:22 PM
Apr 2018

Thankfully it won't shield him from the consequences of defamatory statements.

I generallly support all speech, even that which I find distasteful or offensive. This, however, can't be shielded by freedom of speech. I hope they get their damages and I hope other parents follow suit. Empty his wallet so it matches his morals.

gay texan

(2,453 posts)
35. I tuned into him tuesday on shortwave
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:39 PM
Apr 2018

And was back peddling like the Bitch he is.

He's now saying that the people arrested in Starbucks were simply looking for free coffee.

I hope that fucker is sued for everything he's got.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
36. They absolutely need to go ahead with their suit!
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 07:41 PM
Apr 2018

Just because he now admits that he has been lying doesn't erase the pain and suffering nor does it erase the death threats, It is not something that can simply be erased with an 'oops I was wrong'!

I just wish they had asked for more.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
39. Absolutely.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:17 PM
Apr 2018

Because he'll just keep doing the same shit, over and over again, if they don't. You can't let an asshole like Jones know that there are no consequences for your actions, as long as you later backtrack. You don't even have to apologize.

Nail that screaming scumbag to the wall!

Virtual Burlesque

(132 posts)
37. He publishes his filthy lie that the Sandy Hook massacre didn't happen, repeatedly for six years,
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:08 PM
Apr 2018

then says once that it did, and that one truth is supposed to make up for six years worth of lies?

I think not!

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
40. The damage has been done, sue this A$$hole out of business.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:02 AM
Apr 2018

Any numbers on Jones divorce case and what that cost?

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