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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:10 PM Apr 2018

Betsy DeVos implies Oklahoma teachers arent serving their students by protesting for better educat

Source: raw story




09 Apr 2018 at 10:17 ET


The GOP-led Oklahoma legislature has offered teachers 60 percent of their requested raises, but they’ve refused to meet the demand for better school funding. So, teachers are holding out, demanding funds go directly into the classroom.

Yet, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos implied that teachers in the state aren’t working for the students. The Dallas Morning News caught a comment from the billionaire charter school funder while she was touring a Dallas middle school.


“I think about the kids,” DeVos claimed. “I think we need to stay focused on what’s right for kids. And I hope that adults would keep adult disagreements and disputes in a separate place, and serve the students that are there to be served.”

The statement seems to be making the case that DeVos doesn’t believe the striking teachers are serving the “students that are there to be served.”

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Betsy DeVos implies Oklahoma teachers arent serving their students by protesting for better educat (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2018 OP
@thehill 1h1 hour ago DeVos blasts Oklahoma teachers on strike: "Serve the students" riversedge Apr 2018 #1
Never forget that DeVos HATES public education NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #2
And wants our tax dollars going to her charter schools. Her and her buddies. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #5
Shut up, no adult on earth wants to hear anything from you. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #3
She doesnt know anything about teachers, schools, students or what supplies notdarkyet Apr 2018 #8
Her fellow billionaires/charter school operators want to hear her speak this. keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #23
Teachers make less on average today than they did in 1989: riversedge Apr 2018 #4
Not a useful number. Igel Apr 2018 #24
And just who do YOU serve, Betsy? Ohiogal Apr 2018 #6
Do they think teachers should "serve the students" for free? LisaM Apr 2018 #7
Rich White Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #9
Lord, what a brainless nincompoop!!! TranssexualKaren Apr 2018 #10
She is so vile! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #11
A BILLIONAIRE telling those working for peanuts to CUT IT OUT!! Bengus81 Apr 2018 #12
Why pay teaches at all? Betsy's thoughts and prayers should be enough Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #13
Rich person who never had to work for a living Red Pest Apr 2018 #14
Dallas Morning News link Dennis Donovan Apr 2018 #15
Its Betsy DeVos. Even she knows her opinion is grossly uninformed. Have you seen her interviews? marble falls Apr 2018 #16
The woman in the Now This video is Christine Campbell Staph Apr 2018 #17
DeVos wouldn't know good education if it bit her on the ass cp Apr 2018 #18
Here in Oklahoma.... Toorich Apr 2018 #19
Idiot Solly Mack Apr 2018 #20
I bet the rough draft said their shareholders yurbud Apr 2018 #21
She may be clueless, she may be vile. She may be GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #22
"To Serve Students" Coventina Apr 2018 #25
We stood up in WV for what is right and we stand with those in Oklahoma and Kentucky. Jfarrar3645 Apr 2018 #26

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
1. @thehill 1h1 hour ago DeVos blasts Oklahoma teachers on strike: "Serve the students"
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:13 PM
Apr 2018

Lots of articles from various media are covering deVos's comment.


The Hill
?Verified account @thehill
1h1 hour ago

DeVos blasts Oklahoma teachers on strike: "Serve the students" http://hill.cm/xY2KBsn


NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
2. Never forget that DeVos HATES public education
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:13 PM
Apr 2018

So she believes that Oklahoma (or any state) starving public education is a GOOD thing.

She has to go. In disgrace.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
5. And wants our tax dollars going to her charter schools. Her and her buddies.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:15 PM
Apr 2018

How do we not deserve this outcome, by the way?

BASH BASH BASH That person in your avie, day after day after day after day, STILL going on EVERYWHERE, soon your pic might change to Kamala and so will the bashing.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
8. She doesnt know anything about teachers, schools, students or what supplies
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:27 PM
Apr 2018

Are necessary in the classroom to deliver quality of education. How much time has she spent in a classroom? Like trumps other employees,she was sicced on education to destroy it. Resist.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
4. Teachers make less on average today than they did in 1989:
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:14 PM
Apr 2018





Slate
?Verified account @Slate
31m31 minutes ago

Teachers make less on average today than they did in 1989: https://slate.me/2GM84id

Igel

(35,317 posts)
24. Not a useful number.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:22 PM
Apr 2018

In 2015 there were 4 million children born in the US.

The population was about 325 million.

Therefore, each man and each woman bore, on average, 0.0123 child. I'm male; I'm fairly confident that in 2015 I didn't bear 0.0123 child.

Sounds silly, but the average teacher pay is like that, too. In some states it's higher, in others its lower. If there's greater turnover for some reason between 1989 and 2017 (or whenever the stat's good for) then there's going to be a gap just based on service time.

Plus it's just pay, and that's a poor metric. In the '00s there were significant increases in employee compensation, but the gross pay stayed the same. The difference was mostly in health insurance benefits. In my school district one year we got a small raise, something like 0.5%, but our compensation went up something like 3 or 4%. The 0.5% barely covered the increase in what we paid for health insurance. The 3 or 4% kept the increases from being huge. (This was in 2012 or 2013, as our health insurance program absorbed the ACA-mandated changes and the district stopped self-funding the program.)

District-by-district measurements are where relevance would lie, but that would be a pain to compile.

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)
6. And just who do YOU serve, Betsy?
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:18 PM
Apr 2018

Besides billionaires and fake Christians?

Shut up and go away. You are a disgrace.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
7. Do they think teachers should "serve the students" for free?
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:27 PM
Apr 2018

I've never understood the reasoning behind this. You serve the students by providing a well-funded, top-rate educational system available to everyone, including decently-compensated teachers, textbooks, materials, transportation to and from school, and meals for those who need them.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Rich White
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:29 PM
Apr 2018

Privileged Person spewing her true inner believes. Folks,this is a example of what can happen to kids that attend White only Private Educational Institutions.

Another Educated Blissfully Ignoramus.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
12. A BILLIONAIRE telling those working for peanuts to CUT IT OUT!!
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:42 PM
Apr 2018

Takes TEN years of teaching in OK to hit a 40k salary level. You can make more working for QuikTrip in that amount of time.

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)
13. Why pay teaches at all? Betsy's thoughts and prayers should be enough
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:53 PM
Apr 2018

Betsy would be happy with getting rid of public education altogether...always thinking of the children, and how the elite class can utilize them when they grow up as ignorant uneducated unquestioning masses waiting to be exploited.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
14. Rich person who never had to work for a living
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:28 PM
Apr 2018

Remember that Betsy DeVos has NEVER had to work for a living and has never understood that the vast majority of people must work to earn money in order to eat, live in a home, obtain medical care, obtain transportation, etc. She thinks that teachers don't need to earn a living. She has no empathy and she is stupid. She is a perfect member of the Trump cabinet.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
17. The woman in the Now This video is Christine Campbell
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:54 PM
Apr 2018

president of the American Federation of Teachers - West Virginia. My sister met her during the walkout, at the state capitol in Charleston. Sister says that Campbell is the real deal, an experienced former teacher from a small rural school in Pocahontas County, West Virginia.

Campbell says something in the video that I never thought about, something that really struck me after all of the Betsy DeVos nonsense. Campbell says that education is the last and largest pot of government funding that private corporations have little control of or access to. No wonder DeVos and the Republican oligarchs want to starve public schools and push private and charter schools.

Follow the money!


Toorich

(391 posts)
19. Here in Oklahoma....
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:53 PM
Apr 2018

we believe in the words of Bartholomew Bogue,"This country has long equated democracy with capitalism, capitalism with God."
If we just cut taxes on the wealthy then there will be such a stimulation of the economy that all the children can get ponies for Christmas and their parents can get a brand new pickup truck.
If we carry this idea to it's logical conclusion we find that by completely eliminating taxes on the rich we will all become millionaires from the glorious trickle-down. It's a win-win.

GeorgeHayduke

(1,227 posts)
22. She may be clueless, she may be vile. She may be
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:49 PM
Apr 2018

a crook and a liar, too. But I'll tell you one thing for sure.

She'd sure as hell better be working on her resumé.

Tick-tock.

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