Comment by Republican adviser to Ohio Gov. John Kasich sets off howls of racism

[Berlin Expat]

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

COLUMBUS, Ohio — A top adviser to Ohio Gov. John Kasich has come under fire for a statement critics say was racist and aimed at suppressing the vote of African-Americans.

The comments from Doug Preisse, the Franklin County Republican chairman, were yet another salvo in the ongoing battle between Ohio Democrats and Republicans over early voting hours. Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted last week issued a directive that excludes weekend voting, which Democrats say was politically motivated.

Preisse told the Columbus Dispatch in a story published Sunday: "I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban -- read African-American -- voter turnout machine."

Kasich, who is preparing to deliver a speech at next week's Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., on Tuesday declined The Plain Dealer's request for an interview.

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Well now, this is turning out to be a hell of a year for the GOP, now ain't it?

First, that cretin in Missouri opens his mouth, then this fool up in Ohio, and who knows, maybe a hurricane heading right for Tampa during the GOP convention?

Keep talking, Pubbies.......you guys just keep digging yourself deeper.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. To the Republicans: Open mouth, insert foot, keep chewing...

They are busy derailing what they want to talk about.

Instead, they're giving us plenty of ammunition!

[Berlin Expat]

3. Indeed, it seems

to me that the GOP is having a serious problem with being able to shut its collective piehole.

Good. I hope they keep talking.

[Plucketeer]

18. Nah - they GOTTA say SOMETHING

But their main problem is, all they've got to offer is LIES. And in this day and age, lies are really thin ice to build a "platform" on.

[wordpix]

27. they're lying to cover their tracks over what they actually said in interviews & on the stump

As if we can't replay the original statements when they "misspoke"

[Plucketeer]

38. Oh, you're correct to be sure

I just have to wonder if they sit around and agree that their base is too stupid to look at ANYthing but the shit that FOX and limbjaw presents. I know, I spar with a coupla RW'ers and they're always sending me those bullshit-biased E-mails that Righties pass amongtst themselves for comfort. When I send a reply with a link to video showing what's REALLY SAID or evidence of honest debunkery - they just reply that they don't wanna look. THAT'S the attitude the GOP's counting on.

[Bandit]

35. The problem is their people LOVE hearing stuff like that.

As much as we find it reprehensible, everyday Republicans go YES YES YES exactly what needs to be said and done.. I am beginning to understand America is not a nice country. Too many, if not a majority, are just plain dispicable persons..

[Plucketeer]

39. It's NOT a "Nice Country"

The fact that we have to proclaim we're the greatest nation on earth is proof we're not. Like Tea Fartiers, such claims are made to try and convince one's self.

[FatIrishBastard]

42. Let's hear it!

for the Cleveland Plain Dealer!, which unlike the Columbus Dispatch, will report the truth, not suppress it. I've e-mailed Joe Hallett, ([e-mail]), the Dispatch chief of the editorial board, many times, questioning lack of reporting stories that every other major paper in Ohio runs. I have never heard back. I will never buy that rag again. This newspaper was completely silent on congressional "candidate" Sam Wurtzelburg's immigrant murder rant, they have NOT adequately called out the Kasich admin., Sec. State office, Atny. Gen. office, & the grossly inept Josh Mandel's office on lack of performance & ethics, and are not doing the job of using their clout regarding records requests, making it more difficult for the good citizens of Ohio to retrieve same. My home state has become a freaking laughingstock, an embarrassment of the highest order, where teabilly idiots want to contribute to Zimmerman's defense fund, where Mr. & Mrs. Crow are just as active as Mizzou, Ariz., or Fla. They wear it as a badge of (dis)honor, they are proud of their lies, hate, fear...proud...proud...proud. We now have a clear choice that can no longer be denied, no matter who the hell you are, and no matter what color your skin may be...The party of might, whats' right, those who see the true light, OR...The party of fright, the "christian" lily white, those who want to "take it all back".

[heaven05]

48. good for you

god! the truth is good to read

[monmouth]

2. God/Goddess is not amused. n/t

[louis-t]

4. When Ryan/Romnuts 'soften' their stance on abortion, they will lose the base.

http://news.yahoo.com/paul-ryan-softens-anti-abortion-stance-good-step-171207381--abc-news-politics.html

[Berlin Expat]

6. Interesting; if they

should "soften" their stance on the choice issue, oh yeah, the wingnut base will go absolutely batsh*t insane.

Hopefully, batsh*t insane enough to stay home come election day.

[Maraya1969]

32. Isn't this comment by Ryan just wrong.

"I'm proud of my record. Mitt Romney is going to be president and the president sets policy"

I thought congress sets the policy.

[WestSeattle2]

5. Who knew the Tea Party would be so helpful to the Democratic cause? This is priceless.

[Doctor_J]

20. How does this help the Dem cause?

[FiveGoodMen]

28. You're assuming that the folks who were going to vote R will hear this and change their minds.

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That would be nice.

But they've shown no such rationality in the past.

[zeemike]

7. They are just one election away from using the n word.openly.

They have become bold enough to not even hide it anymore.

[Berlin Expat]

11. The Pubbies

realize their demographic is rapidly shrinking.

It's now largely confined to evangelical fanatics, anti-government kooks, and other assorted nutburgers.

Logically, one would think they would make some effort to expand; obviously, logic is not a function of the GOP anymore. My father was a Republican, but more in the mold of folks like Thomas Dewey and Dwight Eisenhower. My God, Nixon today would practically be a quasi-Marxist by the standards of what the GOP has turned into now. I doubt my father would even recognize the Tea Party/GOP. The 21st Century GOP has transformed into a massive John Birch Society, and if you remember, old Bill Buckley did his utmost to exile those folks from the ranks of the conservative movement.

I guess this is the JBS's revenge.

[zeemike]

14. They don't feel they need to expand their base.

and that worries me...because that is how you act when you know the outcome of the election already.
But it is more like JBS's victory...cause everything they wanted ether has come true or is coming true....particularly with public education which was the prime target of JBS.
And welcome to DU...

[Blue_Tires]

31. Hell, they're just one election away from putting it in their commercials

Once upon a time, I was *really* optimistic shit like this would get buried with Jesse Helms

[patrice]

52. Precisely. Whatever happens this November, Tea Party racism will come out of it stronger, link:

3 decades of research on the demographics of racism here: http://www.irehr.org/

[zeemike]

53. Lots of good ideas there...thanks for the link..n/t

[Coyotl]

8. When lots of Rs admit to election cheating, the Feds can step in with a civil rights injunction

and put an end to the recent spat of racist voter suppression laws.

Because Obama is black, they are trying to stop blacks from voting. Pretty damn obvious racism!!

[Doctor_J]

21. When?

Some time in December?

Seriously, if Holder was going to do something he would have done it before millions were disenfranchised. He's got to be in on it.

[Coyotl]

22. Let's not go all paranoid.

Holder is NOT in on the conspiracy to disenfranchise black voters and defeat Obama. Get a grip!

[Doctor_J]

24. Actually your post is more far-fecthed than mine

"The feds will step in and...."



The vote purge has been going on for a year. Holder has done a thing. If he's not in on it, why?

[sendero]

46. Holder is not "in" on anything..

... of importance. He is a paperweight or maybe a door stop or a bath toy.

[Coyotl]

47. Holder is the boss of all those Bush plants

I would not want that job!!

[awoke_in_2003]

49. When there are no more...

pot smokers to go after.
On edit: changed hen to when

[Doctor_J]

50. Maybe not

when the pot smokers are all locked up, there will still be all of those whistle blowers. Maybe when they're all in prison too, he can finally get to the traitors.

[Marthe48]

9. It IS Racism

and Preisse should be removed from his position for his comments. Or is he floating a trial balloon? If this goes over, who else will the Republicans disenfranchise--women, gays, the Jewish, gypsies? Other groups that don't fit the repig profile? I think the party of stupid is riding a train over a cliff, but should we wait for this logical end? I don't trust logical anymore, everything is surreal. They have caused so much damage and we all keep hoping they will dry up and blow away, but they don't!

I'm a lifelong Ohioan, and I am so ashamed of the repigs running this state.

[EnviroBat]

16. These asshole aren't interested in governing anymore.

They are only concerned with which corporate donations they can prostitute themselves for. We do need a revolution in this country.

[AndyTiedye]

19. The Talibornagain Militia Crazys are Waiting to Take Over If That Happens

Any scenario in which the government ceases to function will be exploited by the Talibornagains.
They would take over.
We will never be able to get rid of them if they do.

We have to find some way to make the government we have work for us.

[liberal N proud]

10. Tomorrow he will be saying he misspoke or that was taken out of context

These bastards keep saying what they say and they saying they didn't mean it.

[Marthe48]

17. I first read about his comments the first of this week

Preisse and the Ohio repig party has had plenty of time to retract and apologize. He/they won't, because they don't think they need to.

[bupkus]

12. The Republicans can't make the choice any clearer

Racist, misogynistic, anti-human rights faux Christian bat shit crazy traitors. Likewise for anyone who votes Republican.

It's time to draw the line and stop these people. No more "reaching across the aisle" when the only response is more insanity.

[aggiesal]

13. As I understand it . . .

Districts that are predominately Republican will have extra voting time while
districts that are predominately Democratic will not have any extra voting time.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101747214

[Qutzupalotl]

15. That's been changed.

I believe the OH SoS is now saying no extended voting on the weekend before the election (when black churches typically carpool to the polls). All counties are the same now in that respect, but not in a way that is favorable to Democrats.

[aggiesal]

25. This link was at least 2 weeks old, ...

so I wouldn't doubt that it has changed, as fluid as things are in Ohio.

The Federal government should mandate that if there is a federal election
(i.e. Presidential election) then early voting should start from Day 1 till
election day.

If there are state level elections (i.e. governor, senator, ...) and no presidential
election then the SoS can set up the rules based on state constitution.

If the elections are local level elections, then the County ROV should make
the rules based on the state constitution.

[tclambert]

23. Republicans escalate from War on Women to War on Everybody Who's Not a Rich, Old White Guy.

[lonestarnot]

26. SNAFU!

[Fozzledick]

29. Gesundheit!

[Cracklin Charlie]

30. He must have looked at the recent polling

The ones that showed the President with what was it, 94% support from African American voters?

[Scairp]

33. I don't understand these people

Do they think this is winning them new voters somehow? Have they all been time transported back to the 1950's and have decided that birth control is for sluts, only some rapes are "legitimate" , abortion should never occur no matter what and that anyone not white and middle class in income shouldn't get any extra help with their Constitutionally protected right to vote? I just don't get it. The Republican platform isn't Romney's platform? WTF does that even mean? This double talk is going to take it's toll on voters who might otherwise vote R this November and so I think we are in good shape to take back many seats in Congress and hold the presidency. I hope the same happens in the various states where governors and state legislators are up for reelection.

[Berlin Expat]

43. It's the resurgence of the

John Birch Society.

Of course, they never really went away.........they just sort of political obscurity over the years. However, the Tea Party Movement has been utterly co-opted (or created, depending on your perspective) by the Birchers, in particular, the Koch Brothers, themselves the sons of Fred C. Koch who was one of the founding members of the JBS back in 1958.

In my view, the whole thing ties back to the John Birch Society; as I posted upthread, it's their revenge on the conservative movement which largely marginalized and ignored them for so many years.

[Scairp]

45. The Tea Baggers

Which is how I still refer to them, were created out of the loss of the election to a black man. IMO, this entire movement is steeped in racism and why the republicans who were not extreme and certainly outnumbered those who are didn't put a stop to this from the outset is a mystery to me. That's the part I don't understand. They allowed their party to be co-opted by imbeciles and have done nothing about it. The good ones up and quit, and I cite Olympia Snow of Maine as an example. She said she can't take it anymore. I wish she had changed parties instead of quitting. That would have hit them where they live.

[Heather MC]

34. Let's see the list of people the Republicans don't want to vote for them again

Women
Gays
Gay Women
Retired Seniors
Anyone who would like to be a retired Senior one day
Hispanics with American Citizenship who might have family members seeking Citizenship
new citizens
The Blacks
The Muslims
The Jew
Poor Voters
Working Class
Middle Class
Anyone with Class
Rape Victims

But Rapist are OK, you know ones who haven't been caught

Asians
Who did I leave out this needs to be a comprehensive list

[mary195149]

36. They are not hiding it anymore,

The Racist Candidates want the Racists to know they are all in this together. They just don't care anymore. This is their time, now or never to take back the country. Take it back to the white man. No room for any other race, women, gays or lesbians or non-christians. They are going for it full force!!

[Berlin Expat]

44. It has been noted

by some, including acknowledgment of the issue on the far right, that demographics start trending away from the right starting between 2016-2020. Therefore, the right, in particular the more racist sociopolitical leaders among them, realize that this is (for them) indeed, "now or never", as you put it.

On a slight tangent, I do foresee the strong possibility of a neo-secessionist movement rising up in the wake of an Obama re-election. That will certainly make life interesting......and potentially dangerous. Should such a movement arise, it would have to be nipped in the bud very quickly, before it catches fire; I see said movement arising (in particular) in the Deep South, the former Confederate States of America.

For them, the "Lost Cause" was never truly "lost".

[yonder]

37. "contort the voting process"

for whom?

[Peaceful Protester]

40. Democratic VOTER FRAUD is virtually non-existent, but

Republican ELECTION FRAUD, now that's a different story!

[heaven05]

41. wtf

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some people still have to fight to vote in this country first some people had to die to get to vote in this country, then after getting that right, has to see that right voted on along with their civil rights, what every ten years or so, so I guess some other people are saying we giveth the right, we can taketh the right and howl all you want, the judicial process is long and slow, so....... there should be a howl from all decent people, but well that's just a forlorn hope

[patrice]

51. IREHR: national racism research database query results for Ohio:

The Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights has been studying racist groups for decades and has a current interest in how the Tea Party grew out of established white supremacist groups.

Here's a simple query on Ohio. You could go to the home page to learn more about IREHR:

http://www.irehr.org/search?searchword=Ohio&ordering=newest&searchphrase=all