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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 11:58 AM Apr 2018

Manafort moves to suppress evidence found in storage unit

Source: Politico

Lawyers for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort are arguing that what could be key evidence against him should be kept out of court because the FBI violated his Constitutional rights by illegally entering a storage locker belonging to Manafort's firm.

The FBI first got into the Alexandria, Va. storage unit last May with the assistance of an employee who worked at two or more of Manafort's companies, an agent told the federal magistrate judge who issued the warrant. Then, the agent used what he saw written on so-called Banker's Boxes and the fact there was a five-drawer filing cabinet to get permission to return and seize many of the records.

In a motion filed Friday night in federal court in Washington, Manafort's defense team contends that the initial entry was illegal because the employee did not not have authority to let the FBI into the locker. The defense also argues that the warrant was overbroad and that agents seizing records went beyond what limits the warrant did set.

"The FBI Agent had no legitimate basis to reasonably believe that the former employee had common authority to consent to the warrantless
initial search of the storage unit," attorneys Kevin Downing and Thomas Zehnle wrote

Read more: https://www-politico-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/04/07/manafort-moves-to-suppress-evidence-found-in-storage-unit-507984

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Manafort moves to suppress evidence found in storage unit (Original Post) laserhaas Apr 2018 OP
Hundreds or thousands of crimes, allegations, people, emails, associations Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #1
Me too, I'm so tired of it all--I want public hearings and testimony. mtngirl47 Apr 2018 #15
I hear yah 100% harun Apr 2018 #37
the right wing standard: innocent people have nothing to hide...correct? nt msongs Apr 2018 #2
Good luck w/that Arugment Pauli Botany Apr 2018 #3
Manafort is doing a very common move, one to be expected. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #6
Quick everybody look @ the "crisis on the border" w/Mexico Botany Apr 2018 #9
Even better.... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #21
Much of the media and even Donny are acting like it is up to Trump and his lawyers if ... Botany Apr 2018 #29
Manafort crapping his pants. sarcasmo Apr 2018 #4
Did the employee have a key? Nevernose Apr 2018 #5
Yup. NamelessIowan Apr 2018 #30
Not complicated legal theory is it? Nevernose Apr 2018 #36
Nice try, Slick. C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #7
Inevitable discovery is not subject to suppression laserhaas Apr 2018 #8
Nailed. mahina Apr 2018 #12
Good luck with that motion. The employee opened the lock with a key that was under his control... marble falls Apr 2018 #10
Very true! forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #38
Anybody with a degree in Perry Mason and Law and Order like me can tell you that. Plus I have... marble falls Apr 2018 #39
ROTFLMAO Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #11
I hope they did everything by the book so this crook WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2018 #13
Manafort is making a weak argument Gothmog Apr 2018 #14
It's the only argument they have left NickB79 Apr 2018 #17
Sounds like they found the mother lode. Not that they didn't have enough already... flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #16
Manafort doth protesteth too much. What juicy stuff did they find?! nt babylonsister Apr 2018 #18
there is a list in this op questionseverything Apr 2018 #28
Thank you!! nt babylonsister Apr 2018 #33
Weak argument. highplainsdem Apr 2018 #19
Doctor Slocombe concurs with your diagnosis rocktivity Apr 2018 #25
And she is unanimous! TomSlick Apr 2018 #34
This looks like a flimsy challenge Jarqui Apr 2018 #20
They know this won't fly, but it's better than doing nothing. herding cats Apr 2018 #22
Done that way to keep Manafort's name out of summary lists that others might review. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #23
Serves to let others know if Manafort had docs with your name in them, Mueller already knows Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #24
Desperate move to block this means there much be some very juicy items in there. honest.abe Apr 2018 #26
Its probably nothing, just a ploy by mueller to use up truthisfreedom Apr 2018 #27
Interesting NamelessIowan Apr 2018 #31
That headline is the best band name ever. byronius Apr 2018 #32
There is a good discussion on one of the legal blogs Gothmog Apr 2018 #35

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
1. Hundreds or thousands of crimes, allegations, people, emails, associations
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:00 PM
Apr 2018

meetings, all pointing to massive treason and corruption

ONE of them, ONE, would end any democrats career overnight

I cant take the level of hypocrisy anymore

mtngirl47

(990 posts)
15. Me too, I'm so tired of it all--I want public hearings and testimony.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 01:21 PM
Apr 2018

Since Fox isn't reporting any of this in a meaningful way, every trumper that I know thinks that Mueller and the media are just being "mean" to the treasonous slob.

harun

(11,348 posts)
37. I hear yah 100%
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 08:59 AM
Apr 2018

If there were so much as a rumor of 1% of the sh*t these people have pulled, against a Democrat as President they would already have impeached them.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
3. Good luck w/that Arugment Pauli
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:02 PM
Apr 2018

The storage unit was searched after the FBI got a search warrant and after
the prior search of Manafort's home turned up evidence that led to the FBI
going to Manafort's associate's storage locker.

Mueller & company have found a gold mine in that locker.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210460348


dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Manafort is doing a very common move, one to be expected.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:10 PM
Apr 2018

I have every confidence that Mueller not only anticipated such a move, he has a filing cabinet of responses to it.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
9. Quick everybody look @ the "crisis on the border" w/Mexico
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:14 PM
Apr 2018

BTW from what I read that the FBI upon seeing the storage locker
went and got a legal search warrant ...... warrant # 1 @ Pauli's house
led to warrant # 2 @ the storage locker.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Even better....
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 01:56 PM
Apr 2018

Mueller grabbed his financial records from several sources, months ago.

And....Trump's!!!!
Trump still thinks Mueller cannot do that unless Trump gives permission, or some such thing.
But Mueller has rounded up tons of info about a lot of people, kept it quiet until he needed it months later for the "interviews"
so he could charge them with lying if they were not honest.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
29. Much of the media and even Donny are acting like it is up to Trump and his lawyers if ...
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 03:14 PM
Apr 2018

.... he does an interview w/Mueller and company. Trump will have to talk to w/Mueller and company
and/or get a subpoena to testify in front of a grand jury. It is not his choice.

Have some fun @ these links ..... Now, Donny doesn't even know Felix Sater.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210461321

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210458618

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
5. Did the employee have a key?
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:09 PM
Apr 2018

Did the employee have a key? Because “Paul Manafort gave me a key to the place” sure sounds like enough authority.

NamelessIowan

(2 posts)
30. Yup.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 04:49 PM
Apr 2018

Line number 30 on page 33 of 63: "[Redacted--referring to the former employee on the lease] further provided law enforcement with a key to the lock on [the storage unit]"

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
36. Not complicated legal theory is it?
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:05 AM
Apr 2018

This is not exactly a high level of jurisprudential theory at work, is it?

“Do you work here?”
“Yeah.”
“You mind letting us, the FBI, in to the place so we can poke around?”
“No, no! By all means, be my guest. In fact, I have a key! Would you like to see the filing cabinets that my boss keeps that I find most suspicious?”
“Uhhh... No. No, in fact, I think I shall only view those suspicious filing cabinets labeled ‘NO FBI ALLOWED BECAUSE OF RUSSIA’ until after I have secured the proper, constitutional warrant, as approved by a Federal magistrate.”

I’ll give Manafort’s attorneys this: they’re making their billables.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
8. Inevitable discovery is not subject to suppression
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:14 PM
Apr 2018

By the ...."Dam, your honor, we,really, really, really, don't want the prosecutor to have this evidence".

marble falls

(57,172 posts)
10. Good luck with that motion. The employee opened the lock with a key that was under his control...
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:15 PM
Apr 2018

while acting as an agent of Monafort's company. Just as if your spouse asks the agent in for a drink of water and sees your heroin on the coffee table on his way to the kitchen.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
38. Very true!
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:32 PM
Apr 2018

The employee legally had the key and (I will guess) per the storage contract was allowed to enter the unit for any reason as deemed necessary. FBI asks to check a storage locker, he agreed.

The employee would very well have been within his rights to say "I can if you get a search warrant," and they would have, but he did not. FBI was already investigating Manafort, so makes sense that they would check out any place where items were stored.

FBI took a peek, authorized by the employee, and returned with the warrant to investigate the contents. Sounds legit to me.

marble falls

(57,172 posts)
39. Anybody with a degree in Perry Mason and Law and Order like me can tell you that. Plus I have...
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:34 PM
Apr 2018

a sister and brother who are attorneys who have saved me from my own mischief.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
16. Sounds like they found the mother lode. Not that they didn't have enough already...
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 01:26 PM
Apr 2018

but this could be the difference between some serious charges and some UNBEATABLE charges. The only question left is, is Paulie willing to spend the rest of his life in prison? Cuz even if he did flip, I doubt there's witness protection that could save him from the Russians.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
20. This looks like a flimsy challenge
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 01:50 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Sat Apr 7, 2018, 02:31 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/paul-manafort-says-the-fbi-illegally-searched-a-storage?utm_term=.wdk6v2dE6#.vwJjBlRAj
Manafort's lawyers argue that by the time the FBI returned to get the documents, the search was already "fundamentally flawed" because the former employee of Davis Manafort Partners was not authorized to consent to a search of the unit.

Manafort's lawyers acknowledge that the "former low-level employee" was "named as an occupant on the lease agreement" — in fact, he is the only occupant named on the lease. They go on to argue, however, that he was so named "simply for administrative convenience and only because he happened to be the DMP employee tasked with setting up the storage lease on DMP’s behalf and moving DMP’s business records into the unit."

The lawyers claim that their argument is "bolstered" by the fact that "Mr. Manafort appears on the agreement as the only person with authorized access to the storage unit," though that appears to be a misreading of the agreement. The lease has a line for listing the "Occupant's Authorized Access Persons" — meaning people authorized by the occupant to access the unit. By the terms of the lease, the occupant was the "former low-level employee"; Manafort's was the only name listed as an authorized access person by the occupant.


He's the only occupant named on the lease but somehow, he does not have the ability to volunteer consent to the FBI trying to catch a guy who is allegedly working with the Russians?

Manafort must be desperate to be grasping at such apparitions of straws

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
22. They know this won't fly, but it's better than doing nothing.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

There's always a chance, no matter how remote, that something make take even when it shouldn't.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,033 posts)
23. Done that way to keep Manafort's name out of summary lists that others might review.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 02:23 PM
Apr 2018

Legitimate businesses would put the business name on it because employees may leave and others hired.

honest.abe

(8,684 posts)
26. Desperate move to block this means there much be some very juicy items in there.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 02:50 PM
Apr 2018

This may be the final key pieces of evidence to tie it all together finalize the investigation. Can't wait!

NamelessIowan

(2 posts)
31. Interesting
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:09 PM
Apr 2018

The FBI agent's affidavit attached to the motion is fascinating. (1) Talked to former employee (still on the lease and whom MOVED MATERIALS there from Paul's house) AND a current employee of one of Paul's businesses and got permission; (2) got copy of lease showing former employee on lease having access; (3) given key to facility by former employee on lease; (4) entered and saw numerous banker's boxes with writing on them with things such as "Ukraine Campaign," "Political," "Ballot Security," "Tax Returns," (5) went and got a search warrant.

There's nothing here for Paulie. His lawyers are doing what they're paid to do, so you can't fault them there, but it's not going to work. There's nothing novel here.

I can't wait to see the government's response, something along the lines of "duh." Not only was the search supported by probable cause and then a search warrant, the materials are subject to inevitable discovery AND likely should have been disclosed as part of discovery rules (you can't hide stuff and then complain when the government finds it). My two cents, for whatever they're worth (definitely less than two cents). Search and seizure doctrine is not my forte, so please correct me if I'm wrong!

byronius

(7,400 posts)
32. That headline is the best band name ever.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:27 PM
Apr 2018

Perfectly humorous.

So obviously criminal. So Incompetently Villainous.

Gothmog

(145,489 posts)
35. There is a good discussion on one of the legal blogs
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:47 PM
Apr 2018

The concept of inevitable discovery should come into play and Manafort will lose this argument

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