Several dead in Germany as van ploughs into crowd in Muenster
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Source: BBC
3 minutes ago
Several people have been been killed in the city of Muenster, in western Germany after a van drove into pedestrians.
The driver of the vehicle has killed himself, police said.
About 30 people are reported injured in the incident, which occurred near the Kiepenkerl statue in the old town. Some are said to be in a serious condition.
Police have asked people to avoid the city centre.
Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43683687
Original headline at link: Van drives into pedestrians in Germany
dalton99a
(81,569 posts)marble falls
(57,172 posts)medical problem with the driver.
7962
(11,841 posts)Another intentional act.
marble falls
(57,172 posts)Oneironaut
(5,522 posts)However, I refuse to write a screed excusing Muslims (if this is what happened). We shouldnt have to. They shouldnt have to excuse themselves. Theyre an arbitrary group of humans that have an unfortunate subgroup of unsavory people in their ranks - that sounds like every human group possible.
Whatever happened, its a tragedy. Lets leave it at that (despite those who love these events because they help promote their own bigoted agendas).
marble falls
(57,172 posts)niche in humanity. And that there's fewer of them every day because they can't possibly reproduce quicker than they die. I mean, how many people sophisticated enough to hold degrees in engineering yet committed enough to take control of and purposely of aforethought fly a passenger jet into a building can there possibly be as a subset of humanity?
And then I come to my senses and realize that Cheetolini is out shopping even as we type right now for a war to twitter himself into while sitting on the shitter one night at 4:30AM.
No group in the world is more subject to acts of terrorism than are Muslims anywhere on this planet.
For example:
The neo-Nazi murder trial revealing Germany's darkest secrets
The only known survivor of a far-right group accused of a series of racist killings is now on trial. But the case has put the nation itself in the dock
by Thomas Meaney and Saskia Schäfer
Thu 15 Dec 2016 00.59 EST
Last modified on Tue 28 Nov 2017 04.23 EST
In the beginning, they were known as die Dönermorde the kebab murders. The victims had little in common, apart from immigrant backgrounds and the modest businesses they ran. The first to die was Enver Şimşek, a 38-year-old Turkish-German man who ran a flower-import company in the southern German town of Nuremberg. On 9 September 2000, he was shot inside his van by two gunmen, and died in hospital two days later.
The following June, in the same city, 49-year-old Abdurrahim Özüdoğru was killed by two bullets while helping out after hours in a tailors shop. Two weeks later, in Hamburg, 500km north, Süleyman Taşköprü, 31, was shot three times and died in his greengrocers shop. Two months later, in August 2001, greengrocer Habil Kılıç, 38, was shot twice in his shop in the Munich suburbs.
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The crime scenes indicated that the killers favoured a particular killing method. Typically, several shots were fired at close range to the face. Most of the bullets were traced back to a single weapon, a silenced Česká CZ 83 pistol. Police assumed that the professional method of killing, as well as the intimate nature of the murders when they died, the victims were presumably looking directly into the eyes of their killers meant that the murders must have been carried out by Turkish gangsters fighting out turf battles. No hard evidence ever substantiated this theory. Nevertheless, the taskforce assigned by the German authorities to the case was given the name Bosphorus.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/15/neo-nazi-murders-revealing-germanys-darkest-secrets
7962
(11,841 posts)But almost all of the perpetrators of those acts are also Muslim.
Simply because THOSE muslims aren't doing it right, according to the killers, they get killed
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)It's being treated as terrorism.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,485 posts)A friend who lives texted about this attack this morning. He's bewildered by it, as well as shocked.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)it is a nice usually somewhat quiet city
DavidDvorkin
(19,485 posts)Lovely sound.
torius
(1,652 posts)They don't need evidence.
It's unusual in terror attacks for the perpetrator to kill themselves using some other method. Usually they either die doing it, or they survive and get arrested. This is a new one. It's not terribly different than the daily mass shootings here.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)If something like this happened here, Der Trumpenfuhrer and his legion of knuckle-dragging deplorables would be screaming for another 6 inches to be added to this.mythical border wall these idiots think is going to be built. Fools.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,355 posts)Several reports pointed to a past of petty crime and drug dealing.
The man was employed as an industrial product designer and struggled with problems at work.
Broadcaster ZDF said he had known connections with far-right organisations, while new website Spiegel Online reported an assault rifle was found at his Muenster apartment close to the scene of the crime.
https://www.thelocal.de/20180408/ramming-attack-in-muenster-what-we-know
marble falls
(57,172 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,355 posts)by Muslims who then magically escaped the crash. Or they just continued talking about how Germany should deport refugees, even though no refugees were involved. They live in an evidence-free world.