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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:13 AM Mar 2018

Kirbyjon Caldwell - Houston megachurch pastor and spiritual adviser to George W. Bush - indicted on

Source: Houston Chronicle

A prominent Houston pastor and spiritual adviser to President George W. Bush has been indicted on federal charges that he sold millions of dollars in worthless Chinese bonds to elderly and vulnerable investors, according to federal authorities.

Kirbyjon H. Caldwell, 64, and Shreveport financial planner Gregory Alan Smith, 55, were charged with 13 counts of conspiracy, wire fraud and money laundering.

Caldwell is accused of using his position as the senior pastor of the Windsor Village United Methodist Church to help lure nearly $3.5 million in investments into historic Chinese bonds that are not recognized by the Chinese government. He and Smith told investors they could see returns as high as 15 times their initial investment, according to the indictment.

The charges, filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission, accuses the men of cheating 29 investors between April 2013 and August 2014 for the bonds, which are described in the indictment as “mere collectible memorabilia.”

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Kirbyjon-Caldwell-Houston-megachurch-pastor-and-12792523.php



ETA: It's easy to forget how crooked the Dubya administration was.
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Kirbyjon Caldwell - Houston megachurch pastor and spiritual adviser to George W. Bush - indicted on (Original Post) Julian Englis Mar 2018 OP
"Oh Lord, forgive me! I have sinned!" EricMaundry Mar 2018 #1
The ol' Swaggert, "I'm so sorry I got caught!" n/t brewens Mar 2018 #6
And if the lord won't perhaps w's repuglican successor (dump) will pardon him (for a fee.) erronis Mar 2018 #12
Hey, at least the guy wasn't Jeremiah Wright n/t hibbing Mar 2018 #2
Grifters gonna grift. n/t malthaussen Mar 2018 #3
Theres a sucker born every day. P. T. Barnum Firestorm49 Mar 2018 #4
How republican is that? Cristo-Republicanism is... Achilleaze Mar 2018 #5
He is religiously privileged. He can just whip out his Get out of sin free card. Trust Buster Mar 2018 #7
lock. them. up. KG Mar 2018 #8
The worst thing about getting swindled by a Christian pastor is... Major Nikon Mar 2018 #9
Also never forget: Bush used a private email server sharedvalues Mar 2018 #10
I have a hypothesis TlalocW Mar 2018 #11
Gotta love those GOP Family Values,,,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2018 #13
Brings back memories Tall Poppy Mar 2018 #14
Drumpf's Evangelicals: "Hold my sacramental wine, and watch this!" Fritz Walter Mar 2018 #15
Kirbyjon? NOMOGOP Mar 2018 #16
Sounds like a brand of porta-potty. n/t n2doc Mar 2018 #20
Well, he is full of shit njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #26
If the Kirby vacuum company made latrines. Dave Starsky Apr 2018 #28
Another vote for the Good christians Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #17
Ask Laura Ingraham cungar2000 Mar 2018 #18
Grifters for Jesus! Initech Mar 2018 #19
so he stole less than 200k on worthless bits of paper that might be collectible? Demonaut Mar 2018 #21
You defending him? uriel1972 Apr 2018 #27
Talk about spin. He pocketed 2 mil, indicted on 13 counts of conspiracy, fraud and money laundering. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #29
IOKIYAR workinclasszero Mar 2018 #22
Here is the humble pastor's house TexasBushwhacker Mar 2018 #23
This is sooooo Christo-Republican Achilleaze Mar 2018 #24
It isn't his fault, Jesus told him to do it. olddad56 Apr 2018 #25

erronis

(15,324 posts)
12. And if the lord won't perhaps w's repuglican successor (dump) will pardon him (for a fee.)
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:34 AM
Mar 2018

I'm liking the word "mulligan" as a infidel's equivalent to "indulgence".

Firestorm49

(4,036 posts)
4. Theres a sucker born every day. P. T. Barnum
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:33 AM
Mar 2018

Every year you read about stories like this, usually not through the name of Jesus, but what the hell.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. How republican is that? Cristo-Republicanism is...
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:34 AM
Mar 2018

about as far from the teachings of Christ as you can get.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. The worst thing about getting swindled by a Christian pastor is...
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:48 AM
Mar 2018

you have to forgive them after they screw you.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
10. Also never forget: Bush used a private email server
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:11 AM
Mar 2018

Bush and rove used a private email server.

And they deleted thousands of emails, obstructing the Abramoff investigation.

Lock them up.

TlalocW

(15,388 posts)
11. I have a hypothesis
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:26 AM
Mar 2018

That at every level of conservatism - wherever they are on the political spectrum - conservatives know that the things they believe in are unattainable or not able to be sustained (which is one reason they never seem to understand the consequences of their actions or ignore them completely - it's always short term goals for them*) so they need to get what they can, when they can, and the people they need to fleece are further right on the political spectrum - whether they're there naturally, or you had to make them yourself like this pastor probably did, brainwashing them in his sermons.

* Good example would be their constant attempts to legislate allowing teacher-lead prayer back in school. It always gets shot down at some level, but sometimes I wish it would go through so a Muslim teacher could lead a prayer so all the Christians would freak out.

TlalocW

Tall Poppy

(26 posts)
14. Brings back memories
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:20 PM
Mar 2018

Of the little old ladies coming in to the large securities firm I worked for that would bring in their church bonds. They'd held onto them for decades and were ready to "cash them in". I was the one to break it to them that they were worthless.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
15. Drumpf's Evangelicals: "Hold my sacramental wine, and watch this!"
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:25 PM
Mar 2018

There’s a reason why these wolves in sheeps clothing unwaveringly support Cadet Bone Spurs: we’ll scratch your hairy, pudgy, pre-cancerous mole-covered back. You’ll scratch ours (when IRS or other investigators come after us)!

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
29. Talk about spin. He pocketed 2 mil, indicted on 13 counts of conspiracy, fraud and money laundering.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 09:51 AM
Apr 2018

He lured 3.5 million out of investors.


Caldwell and his Wyoming-based company, LDT are accused of pocketing nearly $2 million in the Chinese bond scheme. Smith received $1 million and “offshore third parties, at least one in Mexico” received most of the rest, according to the indictment.

Caldwell sometimes used the alias “Turner Hines” when communicating with investors, and told one person who invested about $800,000 that the bonds were backed by gold or silver, according to the indictment.
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