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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:06 PM Mar 2018

Andrew McCabe, a Target of Trumps F.B.I. Scorn, Is Fired Over Candor Questions

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — Andrew G. McCabe, the former F.B.I. deputy director and a frequent target of President Trump’s scorn, was fired Friday after the Justice Department rejected an appeal that would have let him retire this weekend.

Mr. McCabe promptly declared that his firing, and Mr. Trump’s persistent needling, were intended to undermine the special counsel’s investigation in which he is a potential witness.

Mr. McCabe is accused in a yet-to-be-released internal report of failing to be forthcoming about a conversation he authorized between F.B.I. officials and a journalist.

In an interview, Mr. McCabe was blunt. “The idea that I was dishonest is just wrong,” he said, adding, “This is part of an effort to discredit me as a witness.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/16/us/politics/andrew-mccabe-fbi-fired.html

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Andrew McCabe, a Target of Trumps F.B.I. Scorn, Is Fired Over Candor Questions (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2018 OP
Let the FBI leaks and blowback begin. MelissaB Mar 2018 #1
It is also mean & vindictive. He can sue for his pension. They waited till literally the last day. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #2
He can, and I agree he will. herding cats Mar 2018 #9
Vindictive is right. Volaris Mar 2018 #27
I agree PunksMom Mar 2018 #17
If he has his 20 years already in, how can a firing stop it? laserhaas Mar 2018 #47
He has a case on vindictivenes. Outside of that ... Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #51
Wish Mueller could put a stop to this chit laserhaas Mar 2018 #54
Just saw MFM008 Mar 2018 #3
Kind of ironic considering Sessions confirmation testimony. dem4decades Mar 2018 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Sophiegirl Mar 2018 #4
Freaking scumbags fire a guy two days before he qualifies for his pension.... George II Mar 2018 #5
This is who SIXTY MILLION Americans worship Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #12
Can't wait until the day they turn on Trump laserhaas Mar 2018 #48
Petty mean and vindictive underpants Mar 2018 #6
Pile on the Obstruction bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #7
Shit is getting REAL...... alittlelark Mar 2018 #8
McCabe got zero heads up he was fired, source tells me. Learned from reporters. MelissaB Mar 2018 #10
lock up sessions Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #20
Sessions should have been disbarred, already laserhaas Mar 2018 #49
McCabe needs to get a good lawyer and sue those bastards. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2018 #11
From the statement he just released, Id say he already has one. herding cats Mar 2018 #34
He's pissed. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2018 #38
He is, and rightfully so. herding cats Mar 2018 #39
Seems totally candid - to me laserhaas Mar 2018 #53
What a bunch of shit! lkinwi Mar 2018 #13
Just wait GP6971 Mar 2018 #14
There were many straws on the camel's back metalbot Mar 2018 #33
I think this will not be well received by the public Zorro Mar 2018 #43
The "Cleanse" Continues errant boy Mar 2018 #15
The exercise of raw power to keep others in line bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #16
McCabe will sue and win. John Fante Mar 2018 #18
Neither is a public servant. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #21
I hope he does sue and wi lunatica Mar 2018 #23
From Manu Raju ‏ MelissaB Mar 2018 #19
Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Is Fired 2 Days Before Retirement Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #22
All I can say is "When?" bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #24
Two days before his retirement. Kablooie Mar 2018 #25
NBC, Jan. 29: Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #26
Doesn't this also open an argument legally for wrongfull termination allegations? Texin Mar 2018 #28
If Sessions did it unilaterally or under Trumps orders, maybe DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2018 #30
That is how it has been portrayed exboyfil Mar 2018 #55
Geez it nevers stops huh?? bdamomma Mar 2018 #29
I think the power-mad RepubliCONMEN underestimate Americans' sense of fair play & dislike of bullies Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #31
do any of you find it curious that.... TalenaGor Mar 2018 #32
They do not want to politicize Mueller's counter-intelligence law enforcement investigation wishstar Mar 2018 #40
Trump really thinks he is invincible orangecrush Mar 2018 #35
From Prof. Tribe Gothmog Mar 2018 #36
The Irony of the Trump Administration TomCADem Mar 2018 #37
Another cruelty Corgigal Mar 2018 #41
Trump better not get a pension when he is impeached/resigns/arrested world wide wally Mar 2018 #42
Where can we donate to the McCabe Legal Defense/Retirement fund? jmbar2 Mar 2018 #44
How can McCabe fight this? Civil servants aren't rich. Lawyers cost thousands.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #45
Too smart for Twitler torius Mar 2018 #46
Every law enforcement person duforsure Mar 2018 #50
Jeff Beaux Sesspool didn't fire McCabe w/o the maggot's blessing Motley13 Mar 2018 #56

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
2. It is also mean & vindictive. He can sue for his pension. They waited till literally the last day.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:08 PM
Mar 2018

I think he'd win his pension.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
9. He can, and I agree he will.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:11 PM
Mar 2018

Mean and vindictive as this move was, all I think it ultimately does is take away a reason for Trump to fire Sessions outside of the Russia investigation scope.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
27. Vindictive is right.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:31 PM
Mar 2018

So when this worthless howler monkey of a man begs the court for mercy at sentencing, I hope like hell the Court and the prosecuting attys at the Justice Department REMEMBER THIS.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
51. He has a case on vindictivenes. Outside of that ...
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:52 AM
Mar 2018

He might have another case that will depend on technicalities (does firing stop vacation days due), but it does not deny the bald obvious fact that the way he was fired was vindictive and not done for proper cause of dismissal, especially since it was moot with regard to the function of the organization. He was already out of the chain of command.

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
3. Just saw
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:08 PM
Mar 2018

Alert on this.
Sessions fired him because of
"Lack of candor" in Clinton Investigation.

Lack of candor say the liars.
Now he can't draw a pension which he would have earned on his 50th birthday on Sunday.

Maggot is a rat bastard.

Response to MelissaB (Original post)

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Freaking scumbags fire a guy two days before he qualifies for his pension....
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:08 PM
Mar 2018

....after ~30 years of government service.

What a damned vindictive person trump is. Anything bad that happens to him in the future is sorely deserved.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
38. He's pissed.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:53 PM
Mar 2018

I can't blame him. I bet that Mueller is watching this closely. What a shitty thing to do to a person.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
39. He is, and rightfully so.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:57 PM
Mar 2018

I’m sure Mueller is watching this and seeing who does what.

His case just got more complications added to it, but it’s also more fuel.

I said before, I’m wondering I’d Trump’s strategy with Mueller is to keep this investigation going on until he’s dead. The way he keeps adding fuel to it, it may not be the joke I used to think it was.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
33. There were many straws on the camel's back
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:42 PM
Mar 2018

...and I think it's sort of bizarre, but I think this is the thing that is really going to cross the line. There will be other allegations, and much more evidence, but this will be marked as a very real turning point in Trump's downfall.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
18. McCabe will sue and win.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:16 PM
Mar 2018

All Trump and Sessions achieved with this stunt was showing the world yet again that they are among the most despicable public servants this nation has ever produced.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
21. Neither is a public servant.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:19 PM
Mar 2018

They do NOT serve the public...they rape, pillage and burn the country and flag. Pure, unadulterated evil!

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
19. From Manu Raju ‏
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:17 PM
Mar 2018
Andy McCabe tells @PamelaBrownCNN and @LauraAJarrett that Nunes memo "selectively quoted" and "mischaracterized" what he said to House Intel. “We started the investigations without the dossier. We were proceeding with the investigations before we ever received that information.”



McCabe also says: “I absolutely never misled the inspector general in any way," calling his highly-public downfall the result of "a series of attacks designed to undermine my credibility and my reputation” including by President Trump.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
22. Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Is Fired 2 Days Before Retirement
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:21 PM
Mar 2018

Carla Herreria
HuffPost•March 16, 2018

Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI and a frequent target of President Donald Trump, was fired Friday, days before his formal retirement. The firing of McCabe, a civil servant who has been at the bureau for more than two decades, could significantly affect his pension. 

Attorney General Jeff Sessions made the decision to oust McCabe after the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility recommended he be fired for his alleged lack of candor during an internal review of how the FBI and Justice Department handled an investigation into the Clinton Foundation. McCabe and his attorney met Thursday with Scott Schools, the highest-ranking career employee of the Justice Department, in an attempt to prevent the firing or at least save his ability to begin collecting a pension estimated at $60,000 a year.

McCabe, a lifelong Republican, had officially stepped down from his post in late January but was using accrued leave to stay on the FBI’s payroll until his retirement date on Sunday, his 50th birthday. Being fired before his birthday means he’d have to wait several more years before he can draw a pension.

More:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-020008530.html?soc_trk=gcm&soc_src=bef2a7b5-90e6-3bf7-8d7c-669cedbab8dd&.tsrc=notification-brknews

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
26. NBC, Jan. 29:
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:30 PM
Mar 2018
WASHINGTON —

The day after he fired James Comey as director of the FBI, a furious President Donald Trump called the bureau's acting director, Andrew McCabe, demanding to know why Comey had been allowed to fly on an FBI plane from Los Angeles back to Washington after he was dismissed, according to multiple people familiar with the phone call.


McCabe told the president he hadn’t been asked to authorize Comey’s flight, but if anyone had asked, he would have approved it, three people familiar with the call recounted to NBC News.

The president was silent for a moment and then turned on McCabe, suggesting he ask his wife how it feels to be a loser — an apparent reference to a failed campaign for state office in Virginia that McCabe’s wife made in 2015.

McCabe replied, “OK, sir.” Trump then hung up the phone.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,923 posts)
30. If Sessions did it unilaterally or under Trumps orders, maybe
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:40 PM
Mar 2018

I'm not well versed in that particular section of law. But, it may be difficult considering the Office of Professional Responsibility recommended that he be fired, and the head of the OPR was appointed by AG Holder back in 2011. And OPR reports to Rosenstein from what I can tell. Sessions can simply say he was following the OPR recommendation.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
55. That is how it has been portrayed
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 09:12 AM
Mar 2018

I would wait for the IG report to become public before making a final decision. The important thing to remember is that lower level FBI agents have apparently been fired for the same offense (lack of "candor"?) in the past. If the precedent exists, then so be it. On the other hand our country better get a handle on the out of control executive branch. A cornerstone of our government is that the Justice department and FBI are independent, and the running comments by Trump bring that into question.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
29. Geez it nevers stops huh??
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:34 PM
Mar 2018

The only person I want fired is fucking tRump. He is nothing but a bully what a SOB.

Something stinks really bad. Sessions better watch out he may be next. This is not normal.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
32. do any of you find it curious that....
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:41 PM
Mar 2018

That we are not hearing much from the clintons the Obamas the Bidens Etc....

It just feels quieter than the normal post Administration quietness.... As if maybe they were told just to sit tight....

I also can't recall but I don't think any of them have been interviewed by Mueller yet have they? it seems like they would have some valuable input...?

Or maybe I'm just losing my mind in all this craziness LOL

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
40. They do not want to politicize Mueller's counter-intelligence law enforcement investigation
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:57 PM
Mar 2018

because of our polarizing political atmosphere where half the public could turn against Mueller if his probe as seen as an anti-Trump political witch hunt based on statements by top Democrats.

They also do not have a reason to be interviewed by Mueller since Clinton, Obama and Biden had no knowledge of the Steele Dossier or the Trump/Russia FBI investigation until after the election.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
41. Another cruelty
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 11:01 PM
Mar 2018

and he's protected 24/7 by professional civil service agents. He's a damn rocket scientist. I'm sure he's not loved like Obama was.

jmbar2

(4,890 posts)
44. Where can we donate to the McCabe Legal Defense/Retirement fund?
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 11:51 PM
Mar 2018

It would be ironic if we could in a couple of days replace what was stolen from him.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
45. How can McCabe fight this? Civil servants aren't rich. Lawyers cost thousands....
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 12:29 AM
Mar 2018

tens of thousands of dollars, maybe. He'd have to sell his home?

I don't guess Congress could intervene.

What a cruel thing to do. Horrible. It affects the rest of McCabe's life and ruins his senior years. As a federal civil servant, he won't get Social Security, even, I think.

Trump is truly a cruel person.

torius

(1,652 posts)
46. Too smart for Twitler
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:39 AM
Mar 2018

"...senior F.B.I. officials and his counterparts in other agencies praised his intellect and ability to manage complicated worldwide national security issues."

Phew, thank goodness he's gone!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
50. Every law enforcement person
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:51 AM
Mar 2018

In this country should be appalled by this as nothing but a show of contempt by trump and sessions for the rule of law, and corrupt what they've done now.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
56. Jeff Beaux Sesspool didn't fire McCabe w/o the maggot's blessing
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 09:15 AM
Mar 2018

probably trying to keep from getting fired himself.
The maggot takes pleasure in the pain of other people. He is a cruel & vindictive imbecile


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