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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:33 PM Mar 2018

Trump confidant dumped millions in steel-related stock last week

Source: thinkprogress



Carl Icahn has impeccable timing.
Judd Legum
Mar 2, 2018, 10:22 am





Billionaire investor and longtime Trump confidant Carl Icahn dumped $31.3 million of stock in a company heavily dependent on steel last week, just days before Trump announced plans to impose steep tariffs on steel imports.

In a little-noticed SEC filing submitted on February 22, 2018, Icahn disclosed that he systematically sold off nearly 1 million shares of Manitowoc Company Inc. Manitowoc is a “is a leading global manufacturer of cranes and lifting solutions” and, therefore, heavily dependent on steel to make its products.

The filing came just seven days before a White House event where Trump announced his intention of imposing a 25 percent tariff on steel imports.

Trump’s announcement rattled the markets, with steel-dependent stocks hardest hit. Manitowoc stock plunged, losing about 6 percent of its value. Reuters attributed the drop to the fact that Manitowoc is a “major consumer of steel.” As of 10:20 a.m. Friday, the stock had lost an additional 6 percent, trading at $26.21.
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Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-ichan-steel-imports-cf7deb8beaf0/



Manitowoc is a smallish city in Red Gov Walkers Wisconsin















Pé Resists
? @4everNeverTrump
23m23 minutes ago


Replying to @JuddLegum

The Manitowoc Company, Inc. has lost over 11% from its Wednesday close. Icahn saved millions of dollars by dumping this stock days before Trump's announcement.


This is a crime.
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Pé Resists
? @4everNeverTrump
4m4 minutes ago

If this isn't technically a crime, it's pure corruption and SHOULD be a crime.

This is what an oligarchy looks like.





Chairman of Icahn Enterprises Carl Icahn participates in a panel discussion at the New York Times 2015 DealBook Conference at the Whitney Museum of American Art on November 3, 2015 in New York City. (CREDIT: Neilson Barnard/Getty Images for New York Times)
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Trump confidant dumped millions in steel-related stock last week (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2018 OP
Team Pelosi: When they spoke of 'making America great again,' they meant making America's elite and riversedge Mar 2018 #1
Oh my BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #2
why of course! we are seeing blatant market manipulation NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #3
I wonder if Mueller can add this to his investigation. avebury Mar 2018 #4
Hope so. The powers that be sent Martha Stewart to jail just for lying to the FCC about iluvtennis Mar 2018 #8
So Carl "made" $3.5 million and I bet he will buy more steel and steel related stocks after .... Botany Mar 2018 #5
Insider trading on privileged information would nicely fill out a resume bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #6
I'm certain the timing was purely a coincidence. groundloop Mar 2018 #7
Just luck I guess n/t hibbing Mar 2018 #13
Oooh! Insider trading is a crime Carl WhiteTara Mar 2018 #9
Drain the swamp Hav Mar 2018 #10
ah yes, capitalism at its finest. nt elmac Mar 2018 #11
Trigger the SEC investigation Weed Man Mar 2018 #12
They spelled "steel" wrong. C Moon Mar 2018 #14
Lol!! Lucky Luciano Mar 2018 #18
Grrrrrrr Drum Mar 2018 #15
Missing from this reporting... FBaggins Mar 2018 #16
Do you have a source for this? neohippie Mar 2018 #24
"Commerce Sec Wilbur Ross publicly released a report on February 16 calling for a 24 %tariff.... riversedge Mar 2018 #17
In the words of Gomer Pyle...... Thunderbeast Mar 2018 #19
Carl Icahn's career was built on screwing over others when they are most vulnerable IronLionZion Mar 2018 #20
Icahn is a criminal. That thief should have been locked up years ago. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #21
SEC DOJ SayItLoud Mar 2018 #22
I'm not a stock market whiz by any stretch of the imagination gay texan Mar 2018 #23

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. Team Pelosi: When they spoke of 'making America great again,' they meant making America's elite and
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:36 PM
Mar 2018



Nancy Pelosi
?Verified account @TeamPelosi
46m46 minutes ago

When they spoke of 'making America great again,' they meant making America's elite and corporate Republican donors even richer. If this is not corruption, we don't know what it is.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. I wonder if Mueller can add this to his investigation.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

I don't know if I would trust the SEC to investigate as who know how far Trump reaches into the SEC. And of course you cannot trust a Republican dominated Congress.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
8. Hope so. The powers that be sent Martha Stewart to jail just for lying to the FCC about
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

her trades. She made 100-something thousand off of that trade and spent 2 years locked up. Ichan made millions. This is outright corruption. Hope Trump cna also be accountable for leaking 'inside information'.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
5. So Carl "made" $3.5 million and I bet he will buy more steel and steel related stocks after ....
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

.... they drop @ bargain rates.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
7. I'm certain the timing was purely a coincidence.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:44 PM
Mar 2018



THIS is why the entire shift from pensions to 401Ks has totally screwed employees. We little people don't stand a chance in the markets when the big guns have the benefit of advance knowledge of moves like this. It's yet another mechanism where wealth is being transferred from the middle class to the wealthy.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
9. Oooh! Insider trading is a crime Carl
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:54 PM
Mar 2018

Did you forget? Or are you looking for a pardon? If so, get in line...better hurry though.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
10. Drain the swamp
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:55 PM
Mar 2018

I think Trump was hinting at these tariffs for a bit longer. The timing might have come as a surprise but not that he could potentially do it after saying he would do it. So, there wouldn't even be the need for them to communicate directly, just these little hints are enough. I wonder when they were sold. The stocks lost almost 20% since the 22th.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
16. Missing from this reporting...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 01:48 PM
Mar 2018

The Dept. of Commerce publicly urged Trump to impose tariffs back on the 11th.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
24. Do you have a source for this?
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:41 PM
Mar 2018

I was looking and I could only find articles that were dated Feb 16th, it's my understanding that his stock sales were on Feb 12th.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
17. "Commerce Sec Wilbur Ross publicly released a report on February 16 calling for a 24 %tariff....
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:09 PM
Mar 2018

I had heard Ross was involved in this decision and here it is.............




Trump’s announcement rattled the markets, with steel-dependent stocks hardest hit. Manitowoc stock plunged, losing about 6 percent of its value. Reuters attributed the drop to the fact that Manitowoc is a “major consumer of steel.” As of 10:20 a.m. Friday, the stock had lost an additional 6 percent, trading at $26.21.

Icahn was required to make the disclosure because of the large volume of his sale. The filing reveals that he began systematically selling the stock on February 12, when he was able to sell the stock for $32 to $34
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SEC.GOV
SEC.GOV
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-ichan-steel-imports-cf7deb8beaf0/



Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross publicly released a report on February 16 calling for a 24 percent tariff. But, as the chart in the SEC filing indicates, Icahn started selling his Manitowoc stock on February 12, prior to the public release of that report. Moreover, the sharp drop in steel-related stocks did not occur until Trump announced he would accept the Commerce Department’s recommendations.

Before February, Icahn was not actively trading Manitowoc stock. According to regulatory filings, he did not buy or sell any shares of Manitowoc between January 17, 2015 and February 11, 2018. The February 22 filing was required because his ownership stake dropped below 5 percent. Now that he owns less than 5 percent of the company, he is not required to make another disclosure about his holdings until May. So while the latest filing shows him still retaining some stock in Manitowoc, Icahn could have continued selling the stock. If Manitowoc is not listed on the eventual May filing — called a Schedule 13F — that would mean he has liquidated all his holdings.

Icahn, a billionaire investor with far-flung holdings, is a close associate of Trump — who invoked Icahn’s name repeatedly on the campaign trail.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
20. Carl Icahn's career was built on screwing over others when they are most vulnerable
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:47 PM
Mar 2018

also Trump's career. So of course they would scheme over how to benefit from this garbage.

Manitowac is also the location of "making a murderer" on Netflix.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
22. SEC DOJ
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:22 PM
Mar 2018

Should be looking at short sell positions over the last few weeks. It's KNOWN that the F'n MORON calls from his crumb infested bed to Icahn and others to get a feel for what to say and do. These guys he calls a so much smarter than he is and KNOW how to read him and USE him. The F;n wanna be a big shot will say "Im gonna put tariffs on bla de bla....what do you think, Carl? Carl: You're so smart MR PRESIDENT. Thanks, Carl, I am.

Carl: Get me my broker fast.

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