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Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:00 PM Aug 2012

'Top Gun' director Tony Scott had inoperable brain cancer, ABC News says

Source: ABC

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- "Top Gun" director Tony Scott had inoperable brain cancer, a source close to Scott told ABC News said Monday.

Scott died Sunday after apparently jumping off a Los Angeles County bridge, according to the coroner's office.

Officials said the 68-year-old jumped from the Vincent Thomas Bridge that links San Pedro with Terminal Island. Several people called 911 around 12:35 p.m. reporting that someone had jumped from the bridge.

A dive team with Los Angeles Port Police pulled the body from the murky water several hours later, officials said. Scott's body was taken to a dock in Wilmington and turned over to the county coroner's office.

Read more: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=8780017



Tragic.

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'Top Gun' director Tony Scott had inoperable brain cancer, ABC News says (Original Post) Poll_Blind Aug 2012 OP
What courage that took... rfranklin Aug 2012 #1
Which is why we need to have assisted suicide in this country exboyfil Aug 2012 #4
what if we insisted our pets get no euthenasia too. pansypoo53219 Aug 2012 #19
I did not want to resort to euthanasia when my dog had inoperable cancer, RebelOne Aug 2012 #22
While 'this country' can not make such a law, the States have and Oregon's can be read Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #27
I'm all for medical assisted suicide.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #12
Easy to say when you don't know what's going on. nolabear Aug 2012 #14
He's gone, nothing can change that.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #17
What other people did he put in danger? lunatica Aug 2012 #28
Water rescues are inherently dangerous. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #30
People have to pull the bodies out ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #33
Precisely why euthanasia should be legal. nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #2
+10000000000000 Hoyt Aug 2012 #8
what??? heaven05 Aug 2012 #11
are you kidding? we live in a society were corporations lack oversight and regulation, Javaman Aug 2012 #20
exactly heaven05 Aug 2012 #24
Absolutely get the red out Aug 2012 #26
I figured it was something like that Duer 157099 Aug 2012 #3
You'd Fault Him RobinA Aug 2012 #6
Very sad. hamsterjill Aug 2012 #5
What dreadful news. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #7
When my time comes Macoy51 Aug 2012 #31
I had my cat euthanized last week which was HARD K8-EEE Aug 2012 #9
I'm so sorry...lump in throat...at least we get to hold them on their way up to Kitty Heaven n/t cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #10
Yes and I was so lucky to find a great vet who came to the house K8-EEE Aug 2012 #23
That is really special. At least they let me bring mine in cuddled in a blanket...no carrier. n/t cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #29
Very sorry to hear that dbackjon Aug 2012 #25
Yeah I felt the same way K8-EEE Aug 2012 #34
Terrible ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #13
I figured it was something terminal LynneSin Aug 2012 #15
How very sad. I hope his family finds peace. nolabear Aug 2012 #16
I'd skip suicide, euthenasia, and expensive but futile medical treatments for good drugs. hunter Aug 2012 #18
Pretty tragic, but I can absolutely sympathize with suicide in these Proles Aug 2012 #21
What if there was a cure found tomorrow? graham4anything Aug 2012 #32
My son had an incurable brain tumor riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #35
(hugs) coffeenap Aug 2012 #37
CORONER AND FAMILY DENY THAT MR. SCOTT HAD INCURABLE ILLNESS...ABC jumped gun graham4anything Aug 2012 #36
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. What courage that took...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:02 PM
Aug 2012

rather than succumbing to the medical profession and a long stay in the ICU.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
4. Which is why we need to have assisted suicide in this country
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:11 PM
Aug 2012

He decided to check out in a sure fashion before the cancer could effect his reasoning, but his exit could have been better if he had done it in a controlled environment with no pain (possibly having his loved ones around him but not necessary - his choice). Now considerable expense and some risk accompany his decision (dive team as part of the body recovery for example).

My dad went through two years of hell fighting his cancer. Towards the end he would have wanted to end it if he had that option. My parents went through $100-$200K at the end for nothing except additional pain with possibly a few extra months. His friend, once he found out he had cancer, took his own life after seeing what my dad went through. I respect his decision.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
19. what if we insisted our pets get no euthenasia too.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
Aug 2012

imagine if that would make people think abot suffering. he took the best option. sad.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
22. I did not want to resort to euthanasia when my dog had inoperable cancer,
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:03 PM
Aug 2012

but she was in a a lot of pain despite the pain pills. While the vet was performing the procedure, she said that we should be able to do it to humans who are suffering from incurable diseases.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
12. I'm all for medical assisted suicide....
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:25 PM
Aug 2012

....but jumping off a bridge to do this seems like an inability to deal with one's family and what they might have felt about that. Not that it should be their choice, mind you.

Face it, I'm sure there are ways, with as much money as he made, to have done this in a less dramatic, more private fashion.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
14. Easy to say when you don't know what's going on.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
Aug 2012

I understand what you are saying, but it's not fair. He might have been far more frightened of the disability that leads up to death from brain cancer. He might have been disabled already. Brain cancer might have influenced what he did. You don't know and I don't know. Let him be.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
17. He's gone, nothing can change that....
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:42 PM
Aug 2012

....but jumping from a bridge puts other people in danger. That's where it becomes a public concern.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. What other people did he put in danger?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

He jumped into water.

The Golden Gate Bridge is very popular with suicide jumpers and as far as anyone knows the people who jumped off of it never hurt anyone else.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
30. Water rescues are inherently dangerous.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:08 PM
Aug 2012

Also, there have been articles written about the psychological effects on the Golden Gate rescuers.

That said, I'm not going to fault this guy. RIP.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
33. People have to pull the bodies out
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:20 PM
Aug 2012

There is danger there. It's easy not think about it. And sometimes, people for whom "It's not their job" come across them first.

I don't know much about this specific bridge, but I know about the Golden Gate and it's "popularity". There's a documentary about it and it was disturbing to me.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. what???
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:23 PM
Aug 2012

what is wrong with you, euthanasia cuts out doctors, nurses, medical technology , medicines, machine of all and various types, gasoline companies don't get theirs with the numerous trips back and forth to the hospital.. No profit in euthanasia. Just kidding, of course. My choice, if ever I need it.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
20. are you kidding? we live in a society were corporations lack oversight and regulation,
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:57 PM
Aug 2012

Do you honestly believe that a corporation wouldn't find not only a way to profit from death but also to find ways to make it "sexy" to die?

The movie Soylent Green was optimistic with Edward G. Robertson being euthanized in a peaceful way.

I'll never forget what Mr. Potter said to George Bailey, "Why George, you're worth more dead than alive!"

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
24. exactly
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:15 PM
Aug 2012

although with terminal diseases, we're worth more alive than euthanized. small play on words. I hear you. so true.

get the red out

(13,467 posts)
26. Absolutely
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:23 PM
Aug 2012

Our pets have a right and dignity I fear we will never have in this country. I don't fear dying nearly so much as having some horrific drawn-out, negative quality of life end that only a Conservative Christian could wish on someone.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
3. I figured it was something like that
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:09 PM
Aug 2012

Imagine when people get a treatable diagnosis but do the same thing because they cannot afford the medical care.

I can't fault Scott for doing what he did, under the circumstances.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,641 posts)
7. What dreadful news.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:12 PM
Aug 2012

He chose to end it quickly instead of the interminable chemo/radiation/hospitalizations that so many endure in order to live another day...

My deepest condolences to his wife and children. I hope they will understand.

 

Macoy51

(239 posts)
31. When my time comes
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:35 PM
Aug 2012

When my time comes, I hope I have the courage to do what this man did. I would rather go out quickly than to slowly waste away and see my hard earn money spent on pills/treatment that would make my last year on Earth a living hell.

The only thing I would do different would be to make it look like an accident. Having been through the suicide of a loved one, I would never put my family and friends through that. I would rather have them think I died in a dumb ass accident* than to subject them to all the self-doubt and second guessing a suicide of a loved one bring on.


Macoy

* I am thinking some thing involving several 20 year old cheerleaders and a baby pool full of lime Jell-O….. and an albino midget…....

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
9. I had my cat euthanized last week which was HARD
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:14 PM
Aug 2012

I remember my dad saying: the great thing about being a cat is that she is not forced to suffer the painful results of her cancer and stroke at her advanced age, like she would be if she was human.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
23. Yes and I was so lucky to find a great vet who came to the house
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:12 PM
Aug 2012

Thank you, I am still not used to it and every shoe that someone leaves on the fireplace or sweater on the couch I initially think it is her there - they become such a strong presence in your life don't they?

So she didn't have to get in the dreaded carrier and go to the dreaded vet office -- she got to stay on the couch on per pillow with her family, a quick shot as a sedative then IV, it was all very peaceful and comfortable. Like my dad says, more humane consideration than most of us will get.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
29. That is really special. At least they let me bring mine in cuddled in a blanket...no carrier. n/t
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:58 PM
Aug 2012
 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
25. Very sorry to hear that
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:19 PM
Aug 2012

Alex and I had to put our dog Scrappy to sleep a few weeks ago - he had colon cancer. At 12 years, we did not want him to suffer from surgery, chemo or radiation. Once it was apparant he was not himself anymore, and not enjoying life, we made the decision to let him go.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. I figured it was something terminal
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:40 PM
Aug 2012

It's a shame he opted to jump off a bridge but in this country what other options do you have. The guy knew he was dying and even though he has all the money in the world, I doubt he wanted to lay around in a bed for months dying.

I had a family friend with pancreatic cancer and they gave her only 6 months to live but said if they gave her treatment she might get another year. At her age (she was in her late 70s) she opted to just enjoy the last 6 months of her life with the aid of some awesome pain killers. It took about 8 months until her body gave out but honestly, I think after 3-4 months she was ready to go.

People like Tony Scott and others who know the end is near should be given better options than to lay in a bed hopped up on highly potent pain killers waiting to die.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
16. How very sad. I hope his family finds peace.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Aug 2012

This kind of thing is so personal, and so difficult to fathom, but he did, for whatever reason, what he thought he had to do and I hope his passage was easy.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
18. I'd skip suicide, euthenasia, and expensive but futile medical treatments for good drugs.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
Aug 2012

Why's that not considered a reasonable choice in our society? Why do we have to fear that someone will take away that choice when we are terminally ill and unable to fend for ourselves?

The repugnant puritan ideologies that "drugs that get you high are bad," or that suffering will score you a better place in some afterlife, are responsible for a lot of very painful deaths.

Proles

(466 posts)
21. Pretty tragic, but I can absolutely sympathize with suicide in these
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:59 PM
Aug 2012

sort of cases.

I mean, if there's no chance of getting better, what's the point of going through all the pain?

Definitely a reason to have assisted suicide.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
32. What if there was a cure found tomorrow?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:53 PM
Aug 2012

what would his family say, if tomorrow there was a cure? What if there was a simple vaccine that will come to stop this before it starts?

Every major illness (that is now controlable, or one given a vaccine for) in the past has found a cure, from one day to the next.

and he was only 68, not elderly by any means.

btw-they should continue to look into a link between cell phones and brain disease.
Mr. Scott (like many others recently who have died from this from Teddy Kennedy on down)
had a cell phone practically attached.

Let's have more tests, and let's find and fund a cure.

While it appears noble, for those left behind, this is not an honorable way, but a cowardly way.

Too bad the extreme rightwing republicans/libertarians/teaparty billionaires don't spend that wasted billions on politics, and throw it all into finding a cure for all illness

My sympathy to Ridley and the rest of his family and friends.
And lets fund and find a cure to all the many different types of cancer

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
35. My son had an incurable brain tumor
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

It was the same kind as Ted Kennedy. He was able to have 3 operations, chemo and radiation .

From the time of diagnosis to his death he had 18 months of living. He did the best he could and died fighting it...he was only 26 when he died. I think because his age he tried very hard to live.

There was no worrying about the cost of medical treatments as we live in Canada...There were no bills.

In Tony Scott's case his age and the type of cancer and where it was may have been a factor in why he took his life.


Me, I would choose booze and pills.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
36. CORONER AND FAMILY DENY THAT MR. SCOTT HAD INCURABLE ILLNESS...ABC jumped gun
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:10 AM
Aug 2012

As a regular reader of Nicki Finke's deadline hollywood, I kept wondering why she did not report this on her posts about Mr. Scott.

it turns out, the info might just be another case of ABC bogus reporting, something lately they are doing quite often it appears.

Now I feel triply sad for the family, having to go through even more bad emotions dealing with this tragedy.

Why is the rush for news so important as opposed to GETTING THE STORY STRAIGHT, huh ABC???

Congrats to Nicki Finke for NOT jumping the gun.
And if I want my hollywood headlines I go to deadline.com/hollywood

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