Guns could have saved Jews from the Holocaust, Alaska congressman says

[riversedge]

Source: thenewtribune.com




February 28, 2018 06:36 AM


An Alaska congressman has argued that Jews could have averted the Holocaust if they’d been armed.

“How many millions of people were shot and killed because they were unarmed? Fifty million in Russia,” says Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska on a recording made by a Democrat running for Young’s seat. “How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

Dmitri Shein, a Democrat seeking Young’s seat, recorded the comments at a conference last week in Juneau, reported Alaska Public Media. Shein asked Young about school safety, prompting the exchange............


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Repubs do not care what they say anymore-Trump opened up the floodgates for this type of discourse!



Kyle Griffin?Verified account @kylegriffin1

Republican Alaska Rep. Don Young: “How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

Link to tweet

[mr_lebowski]

1. The fact that the Nazi's couldn't have killed any armed people will come as a great relief

To the 10's of 1000's of soldiers currently taking dirt naps at the many Arlingtons of the world ... is it time to wake 'em up with the good news?



Fcking dumbass.

[erpowers]

30. Something Similar

Weren't there Jewish resistance groups that had guns and attacks Nazis? It is hard to topple a government when all you have is guns and the government has tanks, planes, and bombs. Do the people who promote the "if only the Jews had guns" line think Hitler was not heartless enough to bomb entire Jewish neighborhoods in order to kill as many Jews as possible? As I recall the Nazis bombed London. What would have stopped them from bombing Jewish neighborhoods. In addition, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was full of guns. When someone has a weapon that can destroy an entire city block, a gun will not help you.

[hlthe2b]

2. Sick... DUers arm yourself with this response from ADL for the gun-obsessed RWers in your lives

https://www.adl.org/blog/why-the-holocaust-has-no-place-in-the-gun-debate

Why the Holocaust Has No Place in the Gun Debate

ADL has responded to this talking point countless times since it first surfaced in 2013, when there were a slew of Holocaust and Nazi analogies as part of the gun debate. But it was a fringe idea then -- and it deserves to be relegated to the fringe now, not given the courtesy of a mainstream conversation. These are the facts:

Guns or lack of them did not cause the Holocaust. The Holocaust was the product of anti-Semitism and the moral failure and indifference of humans.
It is mind-bending to suggest that personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany's Jews (about 214,000 remaining in Germany in 1938) could have stopped the totalitarian onslaught of Nazi Germany when the armies of Poland, France, Belgium and numerous other countries were overwhelmed by the Third Reich.
Despite the overwhelming military force of the Nazi regime, there were thousands of brave civilians -- Jewish and gentile -- who indeed often resisted with every fiber of their being. Unfortunately, arming every European Jew would not have been enough to stop an evil force that was only overcome by the military might of the Allies.

[riversedge]

7. thanks for the link. good article.

[C Moon]

20. The SS barges into a home, and the owner fights them off with a pistol. :/

The GOPutin /NRA are soooooo silly sounding.

[erpowers]

29. Guns Might Have Made The Situation Worse

Hitler could have claimed Nazi soldiers dying at the hand of Jews with guns showed that Jews hate Germany and Germans. Hitler could have then said that is why they needed to kill all the Jews. Hitler could have said, if Jews were not killed they would attempt to kill all Germans.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

34. thank you

Bookmarked under 'Dems-vs-Reps'.

[PdxSean]

3. Maybe, just maybe, he's suggesting that black people arm themselves.

https://www.snopes.com/nra-california-open-carry-ban/

Nah, I didn't think so.

[Fred Sanders]

28. Where did he suggest that, maybe or not?

[marble falls]

4. Soooooooo fucked up on sooooooo many insensitive levels.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. I've seen that b.s. more than once over the years.

Mr. Alaska is just the latest ignoramus to make that claim.

A few handguns, even a lot of handguns wouldn't have mattered.

He needs to have things, like the Warsaw ghetto uprising in 1943 explained to him. The Jews there did arm themselves, but were still overcome, killed, and survivors transported to death camps.

[Lithos]

6. More accurate is the repeal of the 1924 immigration law

You know, the 1924 immigration law so admired by Sessions and Trump that they are wanting to reinstate it - yeah that law - the one which barred many thousands of Jews from immigrating to the United States forcing them to remain in Europe awaiting their fates.

Stupid git - does he not realize that many of the Jews who died came from conquered countries who *DID* put up a fight?

L-

[d_r]

8. My first reply started out

sarcastic and I decided against it. The stupid bastard doesn't know about the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

[bucolic_frolic]

9. A handgun is the weapon of choice when facing a Panzer division

not to mention the Nazi's would execute whole towns if any of their own were killed.

[keithbvadu2]

10. Maybe arming black folks would have stopped slave auctions in America?

Maybe arming black folks would have stopped slave auctions in America?

[vkkv]

12. Excellent point ! But here's the Republican answer to that :::

"" Ya don't see ANY slave auctions these days, do ya ?! It's cuz, they ALL got guns! ""

[erpowers]

31. Nope, They Tried That; It Didn't Work

I figure you are being sarcastic, but I will still respond. Nate Turner lead an armed uprising. The uprising was put down and he was killed.

[keithbvadu2]

33. Yep ... sarcastic.

NT stole some guns and such but he was an anomaly, not the same as 'allowing' black folks to be armed.

[vkkv]

11. If you think that you need military grade firearms to 'protect yerself from the Gub'mnt' -

you aren't mentally FIT to own ANY guns.

[SunSeeker]

27. THIS

[Gore1FL]

13. Guns certainly helped the Polish army against the NAZIs... nt

[sinkingfeeling]

14. You see it wasn't about vile Nazism, it was about being unarmed. It's never

about the 'crimes' being perpetrated or the evil intent of some one, it's always the fault of the victims for not having a gun.

[NoMoreRepugs]

15. I think he really meant to say the Avengers & Justice League could have prevented those tragedies

[Major Nikon]

16. Just more banana republican Law of the Instrument logic

[Red State Prisoner]

17. Hmmm

I guess the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto didn't get the memo. I can't even anymore with these asshats.

[packman]

18. Better to shut up than open your mouth to prove you're a fool

[LeftinOH]

19. The armed forces of Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium,

Czechoslovakia, France, Norway.. etc. etc. DID have guns. And how did that work out?

[Blue_Tires]

21. I take it Young is a fan of Nat Turner then?

[steve2470]

22. Fucking ignorant moron as others have proven! nt

[turbinetree]

23. He must have missed the class when it came to the Warsaw Ghetto uprising

what a dumb fucker and dangerous one at that and he sounds like bigot....................and here Donny your number six on the list of getting blood money from the NRA..................

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/opinion/thoughts-prayers-nra-funding-senators.html


Don Young
Alaska
“Anne and I are praying for all those involved or impacted by this heinous act of violence.”
$245,720
FROM THE N.R.A



November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

[NYC Liberal]

24. Nazi Germany conquered and defeated entire nations with full-fledged militaries.

But sure, some civilians carrying pea shooters would’ve stopped em.

[SunSeeker]

25. Sadly, I am seeing this idiots claim made by right wingers on Facebook as well. Sickening.

[Kablooie]

26. How do these imbeciles get elected?

Oh no! The Jews have guns. We'd better not go in there or they will shoot us! Better leave them in peace. - Heinrich Himmler

I think a Democracy could be the worst way to pick politicians.

[trueblue2007]

32. The Repuke is a LIAR.The Jews could NOT have gotten their hands on 10's of thousands of machine guns

REVISIONIST made up history and this GOPig must be called out.

He MUST be called a liar.

Dems need to start saying YOU LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAY IT LOUD AND PROUD.

[JI7]

35. Blaming jews for the holocaust

[Behind the Aegis]

38. Pretty much.

It is sad how common this line of thinking is...especially nowadays. To some, the Holocaust is nothing more than something in faded memory worthy of mockery. While touring Auschwitz, I watched people feign being electrocuted on the fences surrounding the barracks and even heard someone making a hissing sound while we were in one of the gas chambers. Thankfully, I never found out who did that or it would have been a very ugly encounter.

[Whiskeytide]

36. So hes advocating taking up arms ...

... against the authorities? That if you believe the law enforcement personnel knocking on your door are there to take you away, you need to open up on them with your AR?

Asshat.

[heckles65]

37. Anyone who claims this knows nothing about the Third Reich or Germany of the 1930's.

First, the Holocaust was a gradual thing - the Nurnberg Laws and the Kristallnacht were done to pressure Jews to leave, not to kill them. Had the Jews taken up arms at that time, it would have been regarded as an affront to order and the German public, sorry to say, would have applauded the most brutal suppression.

After World War II began and the genocide started in earnest, there was no way to get quantities of arms to the Jews. Even so, the Germans were still savage in their response to Resistance groups, Jewish or non-Jewish.

[truthisfreedom]

39. Guns could have saved America from the republicans.

His logic, not mine.

[Devil Child]

40. NRA circle jerk fantasy n/t

[Solly Mack]

41. Idiot. Depraved sicko.

Bigot.

[gyroscope]

42. Is he related to Sarah Palin?

maybe people in that state shouldn't be allowed to vote...or breed.