Trump Sees Role for Mental Institutions in Stopping Mass Shootings

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Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Trump Sees Role for Mental Institutions in Stopping Mass Shootings

President says bump stocks will be banned whether Congress acts or not

By Michael C. Bender

https://twitter.com/MichaelCBender

Feb. 26, 2018 1:46 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump said he supported giving law-enforcement officials “immediate access” to take weapons from the mentally ill and called for a national conversation on mental institutions. ... Two weeks after 17 people were shot dead at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., Mr. Trump suggested that the alleged shooter, Nikolas Cruz, should have been institutionalized before he was able to harm others.

“In the old days, you put him in a mental institution,” Mr. Trump told a group of governors at the White House on Monday. “We’re going to have to start talking about mental institutions, because a lot of the folks in this room closed their mental institutions.”

Mr. Trump also took aim again at bump stocks, devices that increase the firing rate of semiautomatic guns to mimic fully automatic weapons. Last week, he signed a memorandum directing Attorney General Jeff Sessions to develop regulations that would ban the sale and use of the devices. The device was used in the Las Vegas gun massacre in October, the deadliest in U.S. history.

“Bump stocks, we’re writing them out—I’m writing that out myself,” he said. “I don’t care if Congress does it or not.”
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—Kristina Peterson contributed to this article.

Write to Michael C. Bender at [e-mail]

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-sees-role-for-mental-institutions-in-stopping-mass-shootings-1519670802

[exboyfil]

1. So why is he cutting $110B/yr. from Medicaid?

The largest single payee for mental health services. Nurses like my daughter need more than thoughts and prayers to treat their patients. They need cash.

[ck4829]

2. Today, they'll be jails. For-profit, most likely.

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[Initech]

5. They'll be able to make a real life Arkham Asylum! What a great idea!

Only one step away from bringing about a real life Joker!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkham_Asylum

[Docreed2003]

3. So the guy who as his first move as president was to allow

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Patients so disabled by their mental illness that they couldn’t manage their own finances to own weapons no questions asked...now says he wants to keep guns away from patients with mental
Health issues and wants to push for institutionalization? My heads spinning

[SoCalNative]

4. He needs to be the

first patient admitted.

[louis-t]

6. What mental institutions? They all closed under Reagan.

[iluvtennis]

7. Indeed. And the ppl thrown out on the streets

[Mosby]

9. it started in the 60s - with mixed results

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation

[BumRushDaShow]

12. They tried to replace them with "group homes"

and smaller setting facilities than the "warehouses" of old. But far too many have slipped through the cracks and are not getting the mental health services they need, let alone afford. And what happens is that many end up in prisons that are truly unable to handle them.

[iluvtennis]

17. And it's so so sad. It shouldn't be happening in the richest country in the world.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. THIS

He is lost in time.

[BigmanPigman]

15. Yep, my mother and grandmother worked for

them in PA before 1970. My mom is still pissed off at Raygun for doing this to people with no safety net. My dad is still pissed off at him for screwing the unions. We hate him obviously. My grandmom bitched about Nancy all the way to her grave.

[TygrBright]

8. WHAT "mental institutions"???

Saint Ronnie destroyed them, remember?

Holy moustachewax, there is NO limit to his delusions...

amazedly,
Bright

[milestogo]

10. I see a role for Mental Institutions in ending the Trump presidency.

[mwooldri]

13. I'm up for a debate on mental health and how it is treated.

We can even connect parts of it to gun control. But the overlap between mental health and gun control isn't that big really.

The shooter didn't need to be institutionalized. He needed to not be able to get a gun. Especially a gun that can fire lots of bullets quickly.

While Donal Drumpf can be off the mark a lot of the time, discussion about how mental health is treated in America is a good thing to have. Example - the mental health hospitals get so packed at times, that the only place to secure people who are having a mental health crisis is the emergency room... and that is not a good place for a person with a mental health crisis to be. Some parts of the country have OK mental health provision, others have not-OK provision. There's a shortage of psychiatrists and mental health nurses.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

14. I see the primary residents of these mental institutions being NRA officials and politicians

who rely on the group's donations.

Leave the outside world for the sane people who want sensible gun control.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

16. Blackwater USA is on it - or some other evil profiteer - with republican proposals

you always have to follow the money. How is the profit to be made, and by whom?


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