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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:21 PM Feb 2018

KY Gov.: Mass Shootings Are Result Of 'Culture,' 'Psychiatric Drugs,' Lack Of Morals

Source: Talking Points Memo




By Nicole Lafond | February 26, 2018 2:05 pm

Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin (R) on Monday told President Donald Trump that a “culture of death,” “psychiatric drugs” and a lapse in morality are contributing to the increase in mass shootings in America. He also said guns are not to blame because “there have always been guns.”

“This culture of death is becoming pervasive and if it’s not addressed by all the imperfect people in this room with a sense of purpose and sense of aspiration, I think we are going to see a continued trajectory that is not good,” he said during a governors meeting at the White House on Monday.

“There have always been guns in homes and fewer rules. It isn’t to say that these rules and restrictions are necessarily bad, but what has changed is what we do or don’t do as it relates to acknowledging the value and dignity of every human life,” he continued. “When you couple that with the number of psychiatric drugs that are increasingly systemic and have very severe warnings associated with them related to depression and suicidal thoughts, you put all these things in a mess and no one among us is bold enough or willing to step up and challenge of the fact that this is a problem. This is why it goes unchecked.”

He then called on Trump and his fellow governors to “seize the opportunities” to call Americans “to higher action as it relates to our mores.”

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kentucky-gov-mass-shootings-result-culture-psychiatric-drugs-morals

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KY Gov.: Mass Shootings Are Result Of 'Culture,' 'Psychiatric Drugs,' Lack Of Morals (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
"a lapse in morality" - Donald bragging about cheating on his wives - but he gets a Mulligan from Ev keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #1
A Mulligan is not a lapse JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #23
Is it possible for these people to be more stupid? matt819 Feb 2018 #2
yes. nt Javaman Feb 2018 #3
Exactly right! But let's have some fun with this FakeNoose Feb 2018 #16
Hes right about the culture of bigotry, misogyny and hatred. bettyellen Feb 2018 #4
My not wanting to visit Kentucky ever again is the result of fucksticks. 47of74 Feb 2018 #5
The culture of Death Liberalhammer Feb 2018 #6
OMG he's embraced the deplorables idea? bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #7
Morals? The Blue Flower Feb 2018 #8
As someone with BPD and wouldnt be alive without psych meds arithia Feb 2018 #9
Add crazy politicians like him to the list Roy Rolling Feb 2018 #10
GOP solution: (1) arm teachers, (2) restore prayer in schools LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #11
You forgot (3) Blame the liberals. kyburbonkid Feb 2018 #18
I agree on the "culture" part.... world wide wally Feb 2018 #12
He is correct about the shootings being due to a lack of morals Julian Englis Feb 2018 #13
What else from a state with this? Maxheader Feb 2018 #14
And you drag the Masons into this? Igel Feb 2018 #20
sensitive? Maxheader Feb 2018 #24
Just a local view Corgigal Feb 2018 #15
guns, butthead bevins, it's guns Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #17
Your NRA check is in the mail, Gov. Bevins. (nt) Paladin Feb 2018 #19
Well, he isnt completely wrong angrychair Feb 2018 #21
Shootings Are Result Of Gun Culture, Psychotic Repugs w/Lack Of Morals dchill Feb 2018 #22

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
1. "a lapse in morality" - Donald bragging about cheating on his wives - but he gets a Mulligan from Ev
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

"a lapse in morality" - Donald bragging about cheating on his wives - but he gets a Mulligan from Evangelists

Is a Mulligan a lapse?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
23. A Mulligan is not a lapse
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:54 AM
Feb 2018

A Mulligan is a do-over, a reprieve, a new start, a forgiveness, a reset. It's a beautiful thing.

But, it requires a recognition and admission of one's own error, a confession to one's fellow golfers in the foursome (or however many there are). I don't think Trump is capable of admitting an error.

He deserves no Mulligans.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
2. Is it possible for these people to be more stupid?
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:46 PM
Feb 2018

You fucking morons are preventing the CDC from examining these shootings as a national illness, so, you know what, we don't really know what the cause it.

It might be lack of morals.

It might be cultural, whatever the fuck that means.

It might be the absence of religion in schools.

It might be the presence of religion in their lives.

It might be bullying.

It might be medication.

It might be mental illness.

It might be video games.

The killers might be republicans.

It might be a lot of things, and this particular buffoon may be like the stopped watch - right twice a day.

Yes, it does matter what's behind all of this, and maybe you should encourage your federal legislators to fund the CDC to explore this.

But, you know what, you fucking moron, you know what could help stop the bloodshed? Making it impossible for these killers to obtain weapons of war. Making it impossible for these killers to obtain ammunition for these weapons of war. And so much more. But you and your fellow republicans are too cowardly to make these decisions. You know what? It's time that you learn about and appreciate the culture of those Americans who value the right not to be killed in schools or the work place. Take your so-called gun culture and shove it.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
16. Exactly right! But let's have some fun with this
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:40 PM
Feb 2018

Let's point our fingers right back at the churches.

The churches that have done nothing while Christian morality and family values have declined for the last 50 years. Churches that have played politics instead of standing up to bigotry and racism in their parishes. Churches that have stuck their noses into a 2,000 year old book while parish women were abused, harassed or otherwise had their God-given rights and freedoms denied. Churches that have pretended that fetuses have more rights than their own mothers do. Churches that have pretended that anyone with a gun in his hands is more powerful than Jesus.

That's right churches, we're looking right at you!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
4. Hes right about the culture of bigotry, misogyny and hatred.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 05:50 PM
Feb 2018

But I don’t think he’s talking about that.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
5. My not wanting to visit Kentucky ever again is the result of fucksticks.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

One of them is named Matt Bevin. Another is named Mitch McConnell. And another is named Rand Paul.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
8. Morals?
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:25 PM
Feb 2018

Like lying, cheating, adultery, stealing wages? Does this guy even know what morals are? I'll answer that myself--he doesn't have a clue.

arithia

(455 posts)
9. As someone with BPD and wouldnt be alive without psych meds
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:39 PM
Feb 2018

Fuck you, Matt Bevin. Fuck you and the bullshit, sociopathic, NRA-branded pony you rode in on.

I've been the victim of violence a number of times in my life, including at the hands of people who then claimed it never happened and used my diagnosis as a smokescreen for their abuse. I have NEVER once hurt another living person. I'm not alone. People with psych disorders who go on to hurt others are the statistical outliers- ppl with a diagnosed psych disorder are less likely than the "normal" population to commit a violent act, but you don't talk about that.

If you want to talk about mores and cultural values, talk about the stigma (that you are perpetuating!) that keeps people from seeking treatment for REAL health conditions like schizophrenia, major depressive disorder and bipolar. Talk about how lack of access to quality health care makes psych outcomes far worse than they need to be. Talk about the millions of dollars spent selling fear to people so they will spend money on guns that then get turned on their fellow humans.

Until you can talk about those facts, Gov Bevin, fuck off and mind your own goddamn business when it comes to mental illness. Those of us who live it every day don't need people like you making our lives worse by spreading lies just so you can protect your donor buddies.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
10. Add crazy politicians like him to the list
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:52 PM
Feb 2018

Come to think of it, forget about 99% of everything else. It's all a result of crazy, cowardly politicians.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
13. He is correct about the shootings being due to a lack of morals
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 07:28 PM
Feb 2018

The Republican lack of morals is clearly the cause.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
15. Just a local view
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 07:37 PM
Feb 2018

Moved here, less then a year ago. No one knows how this idiot won. He was way behind in the polls the day before the election. He is on the receiving end of a shady mortgage. Surprise! Can't wait till I vote against him.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,355 posts)
17. guns, butthead bevins, it's guns
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:40 PM
Feb 2018

Bevins is what happens when you have the unnatural, cross-species union of a McTurtle and a Randy Pullet.

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