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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:18 PM Feb 2018

Pa. school to close due to churchs blessing ceremony involving AR-15s

Source: the hill


By Rebecca Savransky - 02/26/18 12:42 PM EST

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The superintendent of the Wallenpaupack Area School District wrote in a letter to parents that students will instead be taken to schools about 15 miles away, The Associated Press reported.

The superintendent in the letter said there is "no direct threat," but said there are worries about parking, traffic and the "nature of the event."

The World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland, Pa., is telling couples to bring their semi-automatic rifles to a blessing ceremony it is scheduled to hold Wednesday.

The event is meant to give couples an opportunity "to show their willingness to defend their families, communities and nation," The Times-Tribune in Scranton reported last week.

All of the weapons will be checked to make sure they are unloaded, Sanctuary Church President Richard Panzer said in an email. The church is also inviting local and state police to be on the premise so that "everything goes safely," he said......................

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/375620-pa-school-to-close-for-churchs-blessing-ceremony-involving-ar-15s



Edit --a few DU members set me straight on the meaning-context of these articles and I have deleted my comment.

Thanks.



http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/national/school-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-rifles/PHfwQe4XptvpLvOZlKENAK/



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Superintendent Michael Silsby added there will be an increased security presence at the school all week.

The church, a breakaway faction of the Unification Church, has said it planned Wednesday's event months ago, well before the Feb. 14 massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.

Church officials say that weapons will be unloaded, secured with zip ties and checked at the door.

The Unification Sanctuary's leader, the Rev. Sean Moon, is the son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church, which is often described as a cult.

The Unification Church has distanced itself from Wednesday's event, saying its ceremonies and theology do not involve weapons........................
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Pa. school to close due to churchs blessing ceremony involving AR-15s (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2018 OP
That is not what it says. genxlib Feb 2018 #1
Yes, You are right and I misread. riversedge Feb 2018 #11
All guns to be unloaded? Now just metal sticks. So all for show...why not all bring bats? Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #2
hammer and nails Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #23
No! They are busing the kids AWAY from the gun ceremony, not toward it. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #3
Thanks.. you are right. I re-read the letter and now understand the situation. riversedge Feb 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #10
The truth is bad enough. The idea of blessing guns at church is truly disgusting. Thanks for posting pnwmom Feb 2018 #21
Contmplate what sort of a church this is jberryhill Feb 2018 #34
Well, the Moonies were a Christian cult. This apparently is a Christian gun cult? pnwmom Feb 2018 #36
The Moonies are not a Christian cult jberryhill Feb 2018 #37
But...y'know, jberryhill... jmowreader Feb 2018 #38
Hes got a Glock 40, in his hands jberryhill Feb 2018 #41
I just posted this above, about the church. It was founded by the son of the Moonie founder. pnwmom Feb 2018 #39
While I do recognize that anyone can call themselves anything jberryhill Feb 2018 #40
Agreed. Imagine being the children of a man like that. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #42
Shaking my head Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #4
What---or who---would Jesus shoot? Paladin Feb 2018 #5
Wouldn't it be safer to have them all loaded? I mean we aren't talking about arming teachers with brewens Feb 2018 #6
"show their willingness to defend their families?" Get a dog. ffr Feb 2018 #7
Shit. Be. CRAY. nt Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #8
Moonies with AR-15s. I feel safer now. jmowreader Feb 2018 #12
Just buy a fucking flower jberryhill Feb 2018 #35
LOL. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #43
Why is it at the school? DownriverDem Feb 2018 #13
I misread it the first time also. Actually, the school district is moving their students riversedge Feb 2018 #15
Okay, that makes more sense. kcr Feb 2018 #20
They expect hundreds of couples jberryhill Feb 2018 #32
I would expect this country to be under constant lightning strikes by now world wide wally Feb 2018 #14
People like this prove there are no gods jberryhill Feb 2018 #31
i would expect all of these folks getting bdtrppr6 Feb 2018 #16
OK, the World Peace and Unification Sanctuary is doing this???? TNNurse Feb 2018 #17
I am not going to mince words weissmam Feb 2018 #18
Concrete Blonde - God Is A Bullet Javaman Feb 2018 #19
Excellent song !!! SamKnause Feb 2018 #22
The "World Peace and Unification" Sanctuary -- Now blessing your death machines! n/t Akoto Feb 2018 #24
Church President Panzer? BHDem53 Feb 2018 #25
Dick Panzer no less jberryhill Feb 2018 #30
Good on the school . I would get the kids the fuck out of the area even though it will disrupt lunasun Feb 2018 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #27
a breakaway faction of the Unification Church jberryhill Feb 2018 #28
Sanctuary Church President Richard Panzer jberryhill Feb 2018 #29
Very smart move for the school district. rwheeler31 Feb 2018 #33

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
1. That is not what it says.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:21 PM
Feb 2018

The school district is moving students to get them away from this insane event and its unbalanced attendees.

Response to riversedge (Reply #9)

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
21. The truth is bad enough. The idea of blessing guns at church is truly disgusting. Thanks for posting
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. Contmplate what sort of a church this is
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:24 AM
Feb 2018

What’s weird is that I’m pretty sure that back in the 70’s there was a Moonie reprogramming camp up there.

But these are people in a cult that broke away from another cult.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
36. Well, the Moonies were a Christian cult. This apparently is a Christian gun cult?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:32 AM
Feb 2018


ON EDIT: I just followed a link and this is the name of the Church:

World Peace and Unification Sanctuary

It's run by a son of the original founder. So it's a cult of a cult.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/national/school-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-rifles/PHfwQe4XptvpLvOZlKENAK/

The church, a breakaway faction of the Unification Church, has said it planned Wednesday's event months ago, well before the Feb. 14 massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the gunman there used an AR-15 in an attack that killed 17.

Church officials say that weapons will be unloaded, secured with zip ties and checked at the door.

The Unification Sanctuary's leader, the Rev. Sean Moon, is the son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church.

The Unification Church, which is often described as a cult, has distanced itself from Wednesday's event, saying its ceremonies and theology do not involve weapons.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. The Moonies are not a Christian cult
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:36 AM
Feb 2018

It’s a personality cult around that weird ass Korean guy.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
41. Hes got a Glock 40, in his hands
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:48 AM
Feb 2018

He’s got an AR-15, in his hands

He’s got a sawed off shotgun in his hands,

He’s got everyone’s lives in his hands...

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
39. I just posted this above, about the church. It was founded by the son of the Moonie founder.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:41 AM
Feb 2018
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/national/school-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-rifles/PHfwQe4XptvpLvOZlKENAK/

The church, a breakaway faction of the Unification Church, has said it planned Wednesday's event months ago, well before the Feb. 14 massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the gunman there used an AR-15 in an attack that killed 17.

Church officials say that weapons will be unloaded, secured with zip ties and checked at the door.

The Unification Sanctuary's leader, the Rev. Sean Moon, is the son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church.

The Unification Church, which is often described as a cult, has distanced itself from Wednesday's event, saying its ceremonies and theology do not involve weapons.


Rev. Moon DID present himself as a Christian -- as the Messiah that the Christian Church had been waiting for.
(You know, kinda like Trump.)

But his teachings were an odd mixture of Christian teachings, Confucianism, and Moonie-specific stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/03/moonies-sun-myung-moon-dies

Moon was born in what would become North Korea in 1920 to a family that followed Confucian beliefs, but when he was 10 years old the family converted to Christianity and joined the Presbyterian church.

Moon said he was 16 when Jesus Christ called upon him to complete His work. He said he resisted twice before finally accepting the task.

He was jailed for five years by the North Korean government in 1948, but escaped in 1950 when his guards fled as United Nations troops advanced. He was an active anti-Communist throughout the cold war.

Moon founded the church in 1954 amid the ruins of South Korea and promoted a mixture of Christianity and his own conservative, family-oriented teachings. He preached new interpretations of lessons from the Bible, and fused elements of Christianity and Confucianism – outlining his principles in his book, Explanation of the Divine Principle, published in 1957.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
40. While I do recognize that anyone can call themselves anything
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:46 AM
Feb 2018

Religions in which the central figure is a living human tend to be among the wackier ones.

This is the Dick Panzer division of the Unification Church.

brewens

(13,596 posts)
6. Wouldn't it be safer to have them all loaded? I mean we aren't talking about arming teachers with
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:28 PM
Feb 2018

unloaded guns.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
7. "show their willingness to defend their families?" Get a dog.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:29 PM
Feb 2018

Defend the community and nation? I don't know of any NRA or conservative on any level that would do that. They are literally the biggest cowards I know of.

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
13. Why is it at the school?
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:54 PM
Feb 2018

I don't get this. It doesn't say what time this is to take place. Why would a school district agree to this?

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
15. I misread it the first time also. Actually, the school district is moving their students
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:28 PM
Feb 2018

by bus to another one of its campuses so that they will not be near the Church at is doing the blessing. The Church is just down the road per the article and they expect hundreds of couples. Wise move by the district. IMHO

kcr

(15,317 posts)
20. Okay, that makes more sense.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 05:53 PM
Feb 2018

I thought maybe it was a matter of they open their doors to some, they have to open them to all, only taken to extreme. Glad to hear that isn't the case.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. They expect hundreds of couples
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:15 AM
Feb 2018

Did a whole bunch of people for whom being Moonies wasn’t already crazy enough for them go in on a piece of land or something?

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
16. i would expect all of these folks getting
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:37 PM
Feb 2018

their guns "blessed" will register them, purchase insurance to cover any victims' families in the case of accident or theft, have their names as owners publicly listed and trackable until they sell or destroy the weapon.

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
17. OK, the World Peace and Unification Sanctuary is doing this????
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:41 PM
Feb 2018

To quote a favorite character from "Outlander" ... "Jesus H Roosevelt Christ"

weissmam

(905 posts)
18. I am not going to mince words
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:52 PM
Feb 2018

"to show their willingness to defend their families, communities and nation," really delusional ass-holes

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
19. Concrete Blonde - God Is A Bullet
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 04:57 PM
Feb 2018


There's a green plaid jacket on the back of the chair
It's like a moment frozen forever there
Mom and dad had a lot of big plans for their little man
"So proud."
Mama's gone crazy 'cause her baby's shot down
By some teenage car chase war out of bounds
It was the wrong place wrong time wrong end of a gun.
Shoot straight from the hip
Gone forever in a trigger slip
You know, it could have been
It could have been your brother.
Shoot straight shoot to kill
Blame each other, blame yourselves
God is a bullet have mercy on us everyone
They're gonna call me sir they'll all stop picking on me
Well I'm a high school grad I'm over 5 foot 3
I'll get a badge and a gun and I'll join the P.D.
They'll see
He didn't have to use the gun they put in his hand
But when the guy came at him, well he panicked and ran
And it's thirty long years before they give him another chance
And it's sad sad sad
John Lennon, Doctor King, Harvey Milk
All for goddamn nothing
God is a bullet have mercy on us everyone

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
26. Good on the school . I would get the kids the fuck out of the area even though it will disrupt
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 12:11 AM
Feb 2018

regular activities . The Blessing of the Guns for couples ?

Response to riversedge (Original post)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. Sanctuary Church President Richard Panzer
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:10 AM
Feb 2018

Ah, yes, the Dick Panzer Division of the Unification Church.

It all makes sense now.

rwheeler31

(6,242 posts)
33. Very smart move for the school district.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:15 AM
Feb 2018

I hope they bill this church for any costs to transport the students.

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