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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:15 AM Feb 2018

Trump: Deputy Who Failed To Confront FL School Shooter 'Did A Poor Job'

Source: Associated Press



By Associated Press | February 23, 2018 9:37 am

President Donald Trump says the armed officer who didn’t stop the gunman who carried out last week’s Florida massacre was either a “coward” or “didn’t react properly under pressure."

Trump was departing the White House for the Conservative Political Action Conference when he said: “When it came time to get in there and do something” Florida deputy Scot Peterson “didn’t have the courage or something happened.” Trump added, “he certainly did a poor job, there’s no question about that.”

Officials announced Thursday that Peterson never went inside to engage the gunman at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School while the shooting that killed 17 was underway.

Trump is calling the episode “a real shot to the police department” and says this “could have been prevented.”

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Trump: Deputy Who Failed To Confront FL School Shooter 'Did A Poor Job' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
gawd.. they are going to get this guy killed or drive him to suicide. hlthe2b Feb 2018 #1
Posted on DU, deputies are protecting him Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #4
Are they? How can anyone tell? AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #24
Dude, the Deputy didn't do a "poor job". He didn't do his job, PERIOD!!! no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #2
Like mr bone spurs wouldnt have turned tail and run. Canoe52 Feb 2018 #3
+10000000 bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #5
+2,000,000 iluvtennis Feb 2018 #10
+4,000,000 bluestarone Feb 2018 #13
On That Point, We Have Proof ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #8
I don't think he can run NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #15
Wayne LaPierre is another brave hero who avoided service in Vietnam IronLionZion Feb 2018 #20
People like chief traitor are sure to never be remotely close to situations where Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #26
Even if they are in a dangerous situation. Being surrounded by secret service with fully automatic Canoe52 Feb 2018 #30
So true that, He failed to protect his country in a time of war Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #31
I apply that sentiment to everyone who is second-guessing the deputy. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #34
Says the demented coward with a sympathetic crib sheet Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #6
And yet you are asking teachers to do the job of a SWAT OldHippieChick Feb 2018 #7
Not to mention Plucketeer Feb 2018 #11
As well as an underwear change. n/t Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #19
This Historic NY Feb 2018 #18
Wow. You really think a deputy armed w/ a OldHippieChick Feb 2018 #21
Exactly, confronting means disrupting anyway possible, its not suppose to be a fair fight. Historic NY Feb 2018 #25
See #29 below. Everything OldHippieChick Feb 2018 #33
Deputy Donald Trump would have done a great job dalton99a Feb 2018 #9
So.. cvoogt Feb 2018 #12
HE should be the LAST ONE to talk about someone doing a poor job IDIOT bluestarone Feb 2018 #14
Says the guy who knows a thing or two about how to do a poor job. marble falls Feb 2018 #16
The "blue lives matter!" crowd will always throw officers under the bus IronLionZion Feb 2018 #17
Maybe the deputy failed to act Dopers_Greed Feb 2018 #22
Goddamn. Came in here just to make a bone spurs joke. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #23
Me too. nt Gore1FL Feb 2018 #35
Kind of like when you hid from the Vietnam War, right? Oneironaut Feb 2018 #27
Someone needs to point out to Trump that Leadership continually offering violence as a way to harun Feb 2018 #28
"This officer wasnt a slouch...." PatSeg Feb 2018 #29
Did Trump ever face gunfire once in his entire life? DBoon Feb 2018 #32
Tell us about those ''bone spurs'' that kept you out of the military Donny. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #36

hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
1. gawd.. they are going to get this guy killed or drive him to suicide.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:17 AM
Feb 2018

Despicable does not begin to cover Trump and his ilk right now.

no_hypocrisy

(46,133 posts)
2. Dude, the Deputy didn't do a "poor job". He didn't do his job, PERIOD!!!
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:17 AM
Feb 2018

You would've kept him on your awful show for another week.

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
20. Wayne LaPierre is another brave hero who avoided service in Vietnam
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:10 PM
Feb 2018

Even though he was of age at the time. He serves a higher calling to encourage armed resistance to tyranny here at home.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
26. People like chief traitor are sure to never be remotely close to situations where
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:37 PM
Feb 2018

they would be in danger or have to do anything THEMSELVES for protection.

That is why he has always paid for massive protection, he is a chickenshit.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
30. Even if they are in a dangerous situation. Being surrounded by secret service with fully automatic
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:07 PM
Feb 2018

weapons didn’t stop Rayguns attacker. So one old guy with a pea shooter isn’t going to stop some lunatic with enough firepower to hold off a squad of police.

Farmer-Rick

(10,192 posts)
31. So true that, He failed to protect his country in a time of war
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:20 PM
Feb 2018

And now he's passing judgement on how someone should behave in a shooting situation? If he knew so much about dangerous situations like that, why did he run away from the military when his country needed him? Trump's just pissed because it blows his "good guy with a gun" theory out of the water.

I've had weapons/police training in the Navy and to tell you honestly, I would have gathered some amount of intel before I went into face a guy with an AR-15 with nothing but a handgun and no body armor or vest. Now whether I would have spent 6 minutes doing it or not is another question. Six minutes is a long time in a high stress situation.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. I apply that sentiment to everyone who is second-guessing the deputy.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:22 PM
Feb 2018

I apply that sentiment to everyone who is second-guessing the deputy as they courageous and heroically type their would'ves-could'ves-and-should'ves.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
7. And yet you are asking teachers to do the job of a SWAT
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:22 AM
Feb 2018

team. Can you imagine a teacher armed w/ a handgun and a shooter w/ an AR-15? Oh sure, she's gonna run right down that hall and confront him. How stupid do you think that teacher is? How stupid do you think this deputy is? He knows he was outgunned. Confronting the shooter would have been suicidal. Heroic, perhaps but suicidal. His main job was to call 911 and try to keep law enforcement informed.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
11. Not to mention
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:41 AM
Feb 2018

said teacher thinking to themselves: Welp, here's what they give me combat pay for! Hope my family gets the death benefits I was promised. Sure hope that gun instructor wasn't just feedin' me a line when he said I had special bullets that home in on bad guys!

LOL.... Had Dolt 45 been there, police would've found him cowering behind the farthest toilet stall in the rest room. They'd have had to pry his trembling hands off of the ceramic throne!

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
18. This
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:58 AM
Feb 2018

Actually that was his job was to confront the shooter, as part of active shooter training if he had it. Terminate with extreme prejudice.
The faster an officer intercepts an assailant during an active shooter incident, the faster the shooter(s) plan will be disrupted.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
21. Wow. You really think a deputy armed w/ a
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

pistol should confront a wild shooter w/ an AR-15? Do you actually imagine a good result? I can see this slowing down the shooter for about 10 seconds while he wipes out the deputy w/ a hail of fire. Can't believe his shooter training is so void of logic and good sense.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
25. Exactly, confronting means disrupting anyway possible, its not suppose to be a fair fight.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:35 PM
Feb 2018

Its about killing him. He could take cover and advance with cover. The killer was going away from him and he did nothing. They have the video. Read up things changed, holding down the scene and waiting, is no longer the thing to do.

PS the officer was mostly likely armed with a semi-auto weapon with 3 high capacity magazines of at least 15-17 rounds each.


cvoogt

(949 posts)
12. So..
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:43 AM
Feb 2018

this deputy was well-trained, and froze / didn't act. How Trump thinks teachers (with much less training) are going to react perfectly is beyond me.

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
17. The "blue lives matter!" crowd will always throw officers under the bus
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:54 AM
Feb 2018

and FBI/federal officers, local deputies, and anyone else while still arguing that more good guys with guns is the answer.

These are the people who want to hire armed officers in every school because shootings don't happen at churches or country music concerts or movie theaters or grocery stores or nightclubs or offices or military bases.

All lives matter except that of the officers and students. All other lives matter.

There have been brave pro-gun NRA activists with guns at other mass shootings recently who decided to strategically relocate themselves to a more tactical location farther away from the shooting so that they can live to post more about good guys with guns online.

harun

(11,348 posts)
28. Someone needs to point out to Trump that Leadership continually offering violence as a way to
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:44 PM
Feb 2018

solve problems may actually be an even bigger problem than guns in this country.

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
29. "This officer wasnt a slouch...."
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:57 PM
Feb 2018
“Peterson was named school resource officer of the year in the city of Parkland in 2014, after he had been with the school for five years, records show. According to a booklet announcing the award, Peterson had been "proven to be reliable in handling issues with tact and judgment" and was active in mentoring and counseling students that year. Peterson was also nominated for Parkland deputy of the year in 2017, an internal memo from the sheriff's office dated March 27, 2017, shows.“

This officer wasn’t a slouch, he was a proven reliable officer, trained to analyze and deal with high pressure situations, and with a lot of practical experience under his belt. He’s being faulted by a gun happy sheriff in a gun happy community for not committing suicide. If the roles had been reversed, I doubt that Sheriff would have gone in until he had some idea what was going on. That’s not proper procedure.

I think what the security officer did was reasonable considering the circumstances. The school isn’t paying him to be a war hero. One person with a single gun running into an undiagnosed situation with an undetermined number of active shooters with a likely stockpile of high power guns, is a death sentence 99% of the time. The officer was immediately on the radio getting the police there, and gathering information. That’s about the best we could have hoped for in an active shooting full of confusion and panic. Chances are very high that if he had brandished his weapon in view of the gunman, he would have instantly become another statistic.

This isn’t the movies. The guard wasn’t going to charge into that building in a hail of bullets and take out the bad guys. He was going to be confused, act irrationally and recklessly through his fear , and possibly make things worse. At the very least, he would have created more confusion for the rest of the police to have to deal with. Two people with guns in a building is far more dangerous than one person, even is one is a “good guy.”


More at the link, worth the read: https://www.facebook.com/RealTruthNow/posts/1816915858361074

DBoon

(22,374 posts)
32. Did Trump ever face gunfire once in his entire life?
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:44 PM
Feb 2018

This comfortable over-privileged reptile has absolutely no business calling out the school security guard.

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