'He Never Went In': BSO Suspends Officer Who Was at Parkland Shooting

[Xipe Totec]

Source: NBC Miami

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel on Thursday said he has suspended without pay the school resource officer who was at the Parkland school where 17 people were shot dead.

Israel said school resource officer Scot Peterson took a position outside of the school but "never went in" as the onslaught occurred, citing security footage.

"In the case of Scot Peterson, our school resource deputy, I want to clarify any rumors conjecture or stories that may have been out there," Israel said.

Read more: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/He-Never-Went-In-BSO-Suspends-Officer-Who-Was-at-Parkland-Shooting-474889753.html

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Even a trained deputy succumbed to the pucker factor.

[SoCalMusicLover]

1. He Should Have Called A Teacher

Only teachers are qualified to provide defense in such a situation.

[PdxSean]

23. Winner!

[bearsfootball516]

2. So, highly trained police officers don't have the nerve to face down a shooter

And we expect a teacher with no formal training to be able to stand a shooter down?

[AtheistCrusader]

11. Not plural. One guy.

This sort of outcome was not observed in Las Vegas under heavy fire from an elevated position. The police did their jobs, even when unable to determine where the gunfire was coming from.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. Didnt the Vegas cops wait in the hallway?

[AtheistCrusader]

75. Official timeline has changed a couple times.

My current understanding is they waited to breach, but he wasn't shooting from the windows anymore at that point.

[liberalhistorian]

59. There were armed resource officers at

Columbine, also, and that didn't stop shit. Even if there are armed officers who won't be chicken shits, they still cannot be everywhere and do everything at once and they are not an automatic guarantee of safety.

And I'll give the mini-version of my usual rant here: WHY the hell are teachers always expected to be the ones to cure the ills of society? They aren't paid enough or given enough support or appreciation, yet they're the go-to guys for dumping social issues on and dealing with them? Really?

[AtheistCrusader]

74. I certainly don't expect arming teachers as a solution.

I'm all for allowing them to carry concealed if they want to, if they qualify for it, but that's up to them. I would never hand a gun to a teacher that didn't ask for it, and tell them, 'this is part of your job now'.

Lockdown drills are bad enough to put on them.

The solution lies elsewhere.

[paleotn]

77. The solution is quite easy from a logical standpoint

But difficult in congress where logic and reason are absent most of the time.

[AtheistCrusader]

83. It's a big problem with a huge ideological divide.

I used to think compromise would come naturally, like it did between the US and Russia as the cold war ended because nobody could afford the cost anymore.

Same sort of thing here. The cost is steep. It's the lives of children. Not a motivator? Wow. Ok.

[Jedi Guy]

102. I think the problem is that everyone thinks it'll be someone else's kid.

I'd be willing to bet heavily that some of the parents of these kids, survivors and victims, are gun owners. Some of them may now be former gun owners. In any case, every time a tragedy strikes, it seems like a lot of folks say "I never thought it'd be me/here." We always expect it'll happen to someone else. Unfortunately, we're all "someone else" to someone else.

The pro-gun crowd, for the most part, is insulated from these tragedies and they're able to keep a certain mental distance. Surely such a thing could never happen to their kids. They live in a good area; the kids go to good schools. Like the old saying goes, "The joke stops being funny when it starts being you." Please note, I'm not saying these shootings are a joke, just using the saying to illustrate the point.

I also think that the frequency and ferocity of these shootings has, to some extent, numbed a large portion of the population. After every shooting, there's a week or two of intense coverage, and then the world moves on until the cycle repeats.

Lastly, there are some gun enthusiasts who just point blank refuse to countenance the idea of giving up their hobby. I don't understand the need to collect guns. They probably wouldn't understand my need to collect video games. Difference is, my hobby doesn't kill people on a regular basis.

Just my two cents.

[blugbox]

3. Are there any good Scott Petersons out there?

Not serious of course.

And I assume this proves that our teachers will do much better at shooting back than actual officer...

Don't they say being shot at is the scariest part of becoming an officer? And they want teachers to jump into the same hazard?

The thin chalk line

BTW... just so everyone knows... I think the situation is deadly serious. I also think their moranic "solution" is a joke, and am treating it as such.

[Xipe Totec]

14. The thin chalk line - I like that!

[crazylikafox]

4. So much for the "good guy with a gun" argument.

[mahina]

7. Check out the photo on DU right before Reagan assasination attempt.

Surrounded by good guys with guns, the President and two others were shot.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210274955

[TomVilmer]

16. As this speech from "West Wing"

C.J. in "In the Shadow of Two Gunmen":
It would be easy to think that President Bartlett, Joshua Lyman and Stephanie Abbott were the only people who were victims of a gun crime last night. They weren’t. Mark Davis and Sheila Evans of Philadelphia were killed by a gun last night. He was a biology teacher and she was a nursing student. Tina Bishop and Belinda Larkin were killed with a gun last night. They were twelve. There were 36 homicides last night, 480 sexual assaults, 3,411 robberies, 3,685 aggravated assaults, all at gunpoint. If anyone thinks those crimes could have been prevented if the victims themselves had been carrying guns I’d only remind you that the President of the United States was shot last night while surrounded by the best-trained armed guards in the history of the world. Back to the briefing...

[treestar]

71. IMO the gun nuts will use this to their advantage

Since he did not go in. Now they'll blame him.

[getagrip_already]

5. the school held shooter drills, but did the sherrifs office?

What was the protocol the officer was supposed to follow?

I suspect he did just what he was supposed to. Wait for backup before walking into a firefight.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

57. Likely violated protocol

Every active shooter protocol I have ever heard being taught is immediately locate and confront the shooter, regardless of if you have back up or not. Reason being twofold, first you draw their attention to you, and away from everyone else, and two, spree shooters have a habit of offing themselves as soon as they are confronted. Most departments quit with the waiting around until swat has an entry team set up unless it's a hostage situation.

[treestar]

70. Yes, after Columbine

That was what they did there and they decided that was not the way to go.

[liberalhistorian]

60. Meanwhile, teachers and students

were using themselves as shields to protect other students, with some of them dying as a result, while saving students. So, yeah, I am gonna judge the officer and I am gonna find him seriously wanting.

[Cha]

6. I can't imagine the Resource Officers'

training didn't include; not finding out where the gunfire was coming from, and trying to stop it.. am I wrong?

[AtheistCrusader]

13. I can understand not wanting to go up against a rifle, with a pistol, but apparently he didn't even

high-tail it to his car to get his rifle.

[Cha]

38. He had a rifle in his car?

[AtheistCrusader]

73. That might be an unfair assumption on my part.

Where I live, they have a rifle and/or shotgun in the trunk. But I don't live in Florida. They may not.

[busterbrown]

39. Cha... The AR 15 can holds 100 bullets in a clip?

A guy with a typical holstered gun...wouldn't stand a chance against an AR 15..
It would be a virtual suicide.. Especially because the shooter couldn't care less who he killed.. He just sprayed a multitude of bullets at an incredible rate..and could reload in in 5 seconds.

In a school by the way.. Sounds (bullets) echo all over the place..Finding where they are coming from is almost impossible.

[Cha]

41. Thanks, buster.. too bad

he couldn't sneak up behind him.

[busterbrown]

43. He would never stop moving..

If he stopped moving he would have been instantly killed..His tactic was to cause as much confusion as possible..Spraying bullets everywhere. (My assumption only)

[Squinch]

56. But if a regular cop comes upon a situation where he's facing an assault weapon and he only has

a pistol, I would imagine the protocol would be to wait for assistance. I can't think it would be different in this case, except that we feel worse because it was children.

[pwb]

8. Teachers jump in front of bullets , while trumps hero first responder hides in the bushes.

How about these hero cops start preventing these shootings instead of responding after their over and figuring out why and what happened. You want to be hero cops? Start speaking out against these assault weapons used against our kids, society, and even yourselves. WTF.
This guy was more of a no responder than first responder. He wanted his pension more than what he was suppose to do which is Protect and Serve our kids.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

22. i was not there

I'm reluctant to condemn that man; wasn't in his shoes. I'd like to think I'd go in, but there's no way to know that without being there.

It would be interesting to hear from veterans or others who have experienced such fire without seeing the source.

[pwb]

25. I could get in that with you but if you weren't in it its not worth the time.

Let's just say you don't stay in place and wait while your buddies or in this case children are being killed you locate the source and bring everything you have to bear on the target.

[appalachiablue]

24. Amen. Start speaking against mass murder weapons or get another job. Coward.

[joshcryer]

9. Well that's a massive lawsuit.

[Action_Patrol]

18. Unfortunately, it isnt.

The Supreme Court ruled years ago that the police do not have to legally protect anyone.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

[AtheistCrusader]

19. And Gonzales vs. City of Castle Rock. And Gonzales vs City of Bozeman.

(Different Gonzales's)

[pwb]

21. So what? They Protect and Serve each other?

Let's stop calling them heroes then. And first responders. Maybe late responders. Or if they feel like it responders? Or maybe they should just direct traffic at these massacres. Jeeesh?

[mtngirl47]

34. I say call them responders who shoot the first black man they see. n/t

[joshcryer]

87. I think this is a unique enough of a case to merit a special consideration.

We're talking about children unable to defend themselves here with a trained officer who has the presumed element of surprise doing nothing.

There will be a lawsuit.

At the bare minimum they will hash out the officers knowledge of the layout of the school, his ability to access areas of the school (does he have keys, etc, so he can freely move around the school?), videotape of the shooters movements, access to school cameras, etc, etc. These are all questions that would be asked in a court of law. Simply posing a different question to the courts is possible to get this stuff at least heard.

[scipan]

90. Oh. My. Gawd. You are right.

You just ruined my day. Please read this peeps.

[Action_Patrol]

103. Im sorry.

Wasn’t trying to sour anything.

[Aristus]

10. So the 'good guy with the gun' chickened out, huh?

Good call, NRA!

[EarthFirst]

12. Something something good guy with a gun... nt

[KWR65]

15. A hand gun against a long gun ends up with the hand gun owner dead. I don't blame the cop

[pwb]

17. Yea, the guy was so close to getting his pension.

He should just hide in the bushes and let the kids keep being killed?

[appalachiablue]

33. Do you know how long the shooting was, approx. in minutes? Tx.

[Midnight Writer]

63. I saw a report that the shooting was @ 6 minutes and the guard was filmed stationary for 4

[appalachiablue]

96. Thank you & more news now, other deputies were there but delayed. So sad.

[KWR65]

45. It is easy to monday morning quarterback. Have you ever faced a person with a long gun?

[KWR65]

86. You're big man.

[pwb]

94. I served my country in Nam as an Infantryman.

Your big man reply? What does that mean?

[dbackjon]

26. Not blaming him, but now teachers are supposed to be armed

Not with a pistol, but AR-15's?

[MyOwnPeace]

28. OK, so now the solution is..

not just "armed" guards at every freaking school in America, but they should be armed to the max - maybe even on some type of tower with search lights and mounted machine guns (I bet those machine guns would make him more willing to go after the - you know, bad guy with the gun.

WHAT F**KING BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET RID OF THE ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[notdarkyet]

32. Sounds like a prison to me. Thats what my old high school turned into. Had to go

. Through armed guards to get checked in. Could not go near campus or classrooms.

[ProfessorGAC]

72. Prison Guards Seldom Are Armed

A very good friend, when i was a kid, had his dad working at the vice warden of a major state prison. And, i had a relative who worked as a guard at Marion.

Nobody carried guns there. Guards in the tower were armed with rifles or shotguns, but they did not leave the tower armed. Too much chance the prisoners could get their weapon.

[KWR65]

44. With the 2nd amendment we aren't going to be able to get rid of guns.

[MyOwnPeace]

51. Didn't say "guns"

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Ban assault weapons.

It's been done before - and it WORKS!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/22/the-real-reason-congress-banned-assault-weapons-in-1994-and-why-it-worked/?utm_term=.34fb2ad12bde

It MUST be done again!

THIS is the elephant in the room - and the "elephant" party doesn't want to recognize it - and too many others fail to recognize the obvious.

[Canoe52]

50. Id let the gym teacher step in front of the shooter also

He wasn’t hired to die, just stand there with a gun. Bet it wasn’t even loaded.

[Historic NY]

20. God damn coward.....good guy with a gun

bullshit....he had 4 precious minutes to do something.

[JohnnyRingo]

29. He was outgunned and not willing to die.

That's the problem with assault rifles. When someone opens fire on a shooter with their hand gun it's unlikely they'll drop the assailant with one shot. Not even a magazine full, as many rounds will miss. Meanwhile, the defender instantly becomes the new murder target with a spray of organ shredding high power rounds. Nobody in their right mind wants to be in that position, regardless what they say now.

When presented with a situation where they're outgunned, even trained cops retreat to a safe position.

Remember the theater shooting in Colorado where the assailant dressed as the Joker entered through a back door and began spraying the place with AR fire? That was Colorado, a state where hand guns are plentiful as cell phones, and not one person returned fire. Not one. How many there were armed that day?

[Xipe Totec]

30. And yet the NRA has the gall to suggest we arm teachers with handguns nt

[JohnnyRingo]

37. I get your point.

I know a number of braggers who swear they'd drop someone in a heartbeat with their concealed pistol. They've never looked down the other end of that barrel, and I assured them they'd shit their pants and hand over everything they have, including their Glock, if the attacker would just go away.

No one knows if they have the kill instinct until the day comes. The military spends millions training soldiers to shoot to kill without hesitation, something that doesn't come naturally in any sane person.

[Bengus81]

67. Your correct,most would freeze like the deer in the headlight thing and then get shot....

[3Hotdogs]

36. I recall there was a guy in the theater with a pistol.

He said he didn't return fire because cops would not be able to identify him as a "good guy" and he might have been mistaken for the shooter

[JohnnyRingo]

40. I can't dispute his reason...

...because I don't know him, but I suspect it might have been because he didn't want to be the next target, as he surely would have been. It's like saying he would have been the hero but he didn't want to get sued.

[Demit]

55. So what was the point of having him there in the first place? Window dressing?

Of course it's understandable to know when you're outgunned. That's the whole effing point of trying to get rid of AR-15s. That's why the idea of giving civilian schoolteachers pistols so they can fight off shooters with AR-15s is ludicrous on its face.

But there were first responders, presumably cops, going in to drag out the wounded as the shooting was still going on; there was the coach who shielded kids and died doing it; there was the ROTC kid who died helping other kids escape.

It's pretty lousy learning that a cop whose very job was the school made the strategic decision to protect himself.

[JohnnyRingo]

62. Dead heroes are of little help.

I recall years ago at the advent of the assault rifle fad when two guys robbed a California bank with full auto MGs and body armor. The helicopter view showed the duo walking down the street spaying high power rounds in all directions at the first responders who were running for cover. Police were armed only with service revolvers and at first prudently chose not to pop up like Dirty Harry to return fire.

They eventually commandeered a gun shop for matching firepower. Since that day most police departments have begun equipping cars with similar weapons. It's time to deescalate firepower on our streets.

[Demit]

85. Well, if you're saying he was in no position to help, fine.

But I suspect that wasn't the case, and that's why the police "retired" him.

He possibly could have helped on the outside in some capacity, but it seems he didn't even try to do that.

I mean, we lionize first responders because while everyone else is running out, they're the ones running in. And the rationale for having guns on the scene is because of the lapse in time it takes first responders to get there. This guy failed, and his cowardice is there for all the world to see and he'll have to live with that. I understand the human instinct for self-preservation, I'm not without sympathy for him, but the guy did fall short.

It's bigger than this one situation. Now kids will look at a cop and think, "Are you going to be there when I need you, or will you run away at the first sign of danger?"

[JohnnyRingo]

88. So how do we test one's mettle under fire?

None of us know how we'd react in a situation of our own life & death until it happens. The school officer would have been presented with the shot of his life. He likely held seven rounds at most in his hand, and one of them had to deal a fatal blow before return fire took him out. That's a lot of pressure, and even marksmen cops hit 20% when bullets are flying. That's why they empty their mags in a matter of seconds.

Unlike in the movies, a desperate killer can absorb several hand gun rounds and continue shooting, at least for several seconds or longer. None of us knows what we'd do until the situation arises. Those who say they do saw too many movies and think they're Rambo.

[Demit]

89. Seems to me you don't apply to the police academy, if you worry about how you'll react to danger.

The very dramatic scenario you've constructed there is assuming that we expect he should've killed the shooter. Again & again posters have said we understand the asymmetry in firepower, including me. So please stop with the strawman.

Here's the thing, at least for me: we know that there were unarmed and un-police-academy-trained people in that situation who did what they could to save lives. Their first instinct was to help. Not to be Rambo, but to help in any way they could. This trained officer's first instinct was to run away.

[JohnnyRingo]

98. I'll accept your point.

Hopefully we agree the actions of this "trained officer" doesn't help in the argument for arming teachers, though.

Trump seems to think teachers will spring into action and storm the attacker in a paramilitary maneuver, dropping him like a bag of flour instantly. Personally, I fear my hand would be shaking like Barney Fife on a double espresso latte, and I've been shooting guns all my life. I don't carry one btw.

[Demit]

104. I think we agree that giving teachers guns is a supremely idiotic idea.

And I've been reading more about this today. Someone on Balloon Juice pointed out how the sudden shift of focus to the SRO is a Roger Stone ratfucking technique—the idea being to undermine the kids who are being so effective speaking out about gun control.

Interesting background:
Stone helped get Broward Sheriff Israel elected and now has the sheriff’s ear. When Israel took the helm in early 2013, in the first five months he added to the department payroll Stone’s book-writing partner; his book publicist; and his long-time exec assistant. He had Stone’s stepson transferred to detective, though it was early in his career, with just two years at the Sheriff’s Office. Stone’s longtime friend Ron Gunzburger (who connected him with Sheriff Israel in the first place) is the agency’s general counsel.
Link: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-roger-stone-sheriff-israel-20140809-story.html

So I'm more inclined to give the SRO a break here. Or at least to lay off pillorying him for his role in this tragedy. God, it's awful to feel—to be—so manipulated.

[Bengus81]

68. Kind of like when they use to have the old man "cop" at the bank for security......

Like you say,window dressing.........

[RKP5637]

76. I wonder how well trained he was? It might have been just that, "window dressing." n/t

[GoCubsGo]

107. What was the point of having him there?

Breaking up fights, rounding up truants, weeding out drugs, etc. The same reasons my high school had a resident cop 40 years ago, long before anyone ever dreamed of school shooters. They're there to keep the kids in line more than to protect them from anything. We all knew that Officer Friendly was not there for our protection. He was there to assure that we behaved like civil human beings, rather than uruly teenagers. Nothing has changed since then regarding school resource officers.

[keithbvadu2]

31. "should have "went in, addressed the killer and killed" him." ... 20-20 hindsight

"should have "went in, addressed the killer and killed" him." ... 20-20 hindsight

That's pretty definitive and absolute.

No other options,,,,, such as being ambushed.

Why did he send more than one qualified, manly backup?

[dembotoz]

35. Bet he thought he had the best job

Nice, good school
Paid to just be there.
Safest place, best posting around...

Until it wasn't

[blueinredohio]

42. Not sticking up for the guy but if I had a rifle or pistol and he had an AR 15

I'm not going in either

[gyroscope]

91. That makes you a chickenshit

students and teachers who had no weapons at all risked their lives to save others while the armed officer did nothing except run away like a scared little girl

[blueinredohio]

105. Call it what you want but me running in and getting killed too doesn't save a life

[HopeAgain]

46. We have BSO in Weston, where my office is...

They are terrible. They sit outside of the elementary school and pull over the attractive mothers because they "thought" their tag was expired. My wife works there and several of the young teachers have had that happen to them. The only thing I have seen them do is double park outside of the Starbucks for hours at a time.

[hueymahl]

47. Coward

Sorry, Fucking Coward.

I’m sure he had no problem harassing kids for bullshit violations. Tough guy with a badge.

[NoMoreRepugs]

48. Many soldiers on the battlefield have had

an extremely difficult time moving towards gunfire..... until you have been in a life or death situation you cannot conceive of what that massive amount of adrenaline and fear do to you.

[Xipe Totec]

52. And yet we expecting school teachers to do precisely that. nt

[Bengus81]

69. And a teachers bang,bang would NOT be in a holster for them to grab easily....

Parents with a BRAIN would never allow a teacher to have a loaded weapon unless it was locked in a safe. That would most times make it worthless to even consider if a gun man showed up.

[Xipe Totec]

79. A bad idea all around. nt

[reggaehead]

49. The modern day equivalent of

Takng a knife to a gun fight. And General Kelly would have likely been a 1 shot victim. Kid was in full body armor

[whopis01]

66. Your post is confusing

You said “General Kelly would have likely been a 1 shot victim”. General Kelly?

And you said “Kid was in full body armor”. Do you have a source for that because it appears to be something you just made up.

[drray23]

101. It was reported by the survivors.

The shooter was wearing full body armor.

[whopis01]

108. Do you have a link for that?

I have looked a bunch for it but have not been able to find anything.

Genuinely interested in finding out more about it

[gyroscope]

93. No excuse!

the officer had a vest and pistol, yet many students and teachers who had no weapons at all sacrificed their lives to save others. the officer was the only one who fled like the worthless coward that he is.

[YOHABLO]

53. He would have been committing suicide.

[harun]

84. Pretty much, I think any officer would call for backup at this point.

[doc03]

54. First of all what kind of weapon did the cop have? I assume maybe a 9mm

pistol. He would be commiting suicide going up against an AR15. The best thing he could do was call for backup instead of being shot himself.
Address the shooter and kill him, give me a break. A pistol is not anywhere as accurate as an AR 15,. If the shooter was more than a few feet away
he would be lucky to hit him before the shooter shot him 10 times. This wasn't a movie it was real life. John Wayne was a fictional charactor.

[pwb]

65. What kind of weapons did the kids have?

He is paid to try and stop the killing not access the situation. Wow, how you easily dismiss the idiot was killing children. you say suicide ha? i say he should have shown guts, bravery, instincts, and yes maybe died trying. Protect and Serve is what he signed up for. he cut and ran as the pukes say so often.

[doc03]

100. The first thing a cop does in a case like that is call for back up. I figure the deputies at the

school were probably the older ones that thought they were getting a retirement job.. I wonder how brave some of you would be in a case like this.
Back when I was young and dumb me and a friend were drag racing on Penn Ave in DC. The cop pulled us over and ordered us to put our hands on the wheel
and he never left his vehivle until two backup units came.

[IronLionZion]

58. Maybe it really is a mental health issue.

It's time to evaluate the mental health of idiots obstructing any discussion of sensible gun reforms with delusional fantasies of good guys with guns saving the day. Many NRA members might fail that exam and lose their right to bear arms.

[RKP5637]

80. I'm beginning to think we need mental health exams for our politicians, many of whom

seem delusional and deluded.

[RhodeIslandOne]

61. Armed guards are merely visual deterrents

Most armed guards, like at banks, are trained to escape so as to get backup.

The flip side is they are a target, and likely the first to be taken out by a nut with a plan to kill a lot of people. Obviously if they don’t encounter them....

[RKP5637]

78. That's what I'm wondering too, was he there more for window dressing, a visual deterrent, and

actually might not have been that well trained.

[RhodeIslandOne]

81. The idea in the past was No one is crazy enough....

......to rob a bank with a cop in front of it”. Not anymore....

That Lifelock ad with the security guard in the bank being robbed and saying “oh I’m just here to monitor that there’s a robbery going on” is more accurate than you think.

[RKP5637]

82. Yep!!! Plus often some look woefully physically unfit for the job. n/t

[harun]

95. Makes customers feel safe (or parents dropping kids off)

[gyroscope]

92. What a useless chickenshit

there were unarmed students, teachers and even janitors who risked their lives to save others.

some of them died as heroes, while the armed officer ran away like a scared little girl and did nothing.

[raccoon]

97. There's nothing easier than being a Monday morning quarterback.

This is not directed at the OP, but some others who have posted here.

[Xipe Totec]

99. Truly.

My point was to show how hard it is even for a trained professional to confront the possibility of death. And here is the NRA and POTUS talking glibly about arming teachers with handguns to defend against assault rifles.

[GoCubsGo]

106. Yep.

Lots of tough talk from people who weren't there, and who would probably behave the same way had they been there.

And, if people actually believe that school "resource officers" were hired to protect the kids from shooters, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them. School cops are there to keep the kids in line. They're there to stop fights, weed out the trouble-makers and drugs, round up the truants, etc. We had one of those in my high school 40 years ago for those reasons. Nothing has changed since then.

[TexasBushwhacker]

109. I will not condemn him

You can have all the training in the world, but until you're in an actual confrontation with a shooter you do not know how you will respond. Big burly guys with weapons can cower in a corner while unarmed teachers and students become heroes.

That being said, he needs to be in another line of work.