Trump Threatens to Pull ICE From California to Teach State a Lesson

[DonViejo]

Source: The Daily Beast




President Trump on Thursday said he’s “thinking” about pulling Immigration and Customs Enforcement out of California in retaliation for the state’s lack of support on his position on sanctuary cities and for the state being “no help” in targeting the MS-13 gang. “I mean, frankly, if I wanted to pull our people out of California, you would have a crime mess like you’ve never seen in California,” he said. “They're doing a lousy management job, they have the highest taxes in the nation and they don't know what's happening out there.” He also said that if he took ICE forces out of California, “in two months they'd be begging for us to come back, they would be begging. And you know what, I’m thinking about doing it."

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[madaboutharry]

1. Donald Trump, The Shake Down President.

There is a mobster in The White House.

[Rollo]

62. I wonder how Trump would feel if California stopped sending tax receipts to DC...

[LiberalFighter]

2. ....

If only DT was run over by a semi.

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Does he really think they care

And does he understand that he can't dictate how funding will be spent on whatever activities that congress tells them to carry out?

[PatSeg]

5. Seriously

He has no idea what being president entails. Apparently, he thinks he can say (or tweet) something and make it happen.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. He's got this outsized fixation on MS-13

But I suppose if it wasn't them it would have been the "Bloods" and the "Crips".

[PatSeg]

11. He always manages to find a scapegoat

He is the master of blaming people, instead of solving problems, especially if they are people of color.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Yup.

Always some "boogieman" that is never him.

[PatSeg]

19. "Anyone or anything but ME"

I wonder if the man has ever taken responsibility for anything in his entire life.

[leftieNanner]

30. Nope

Never takes responsibility for anything going wrong. Never apologizes for anything either. Never acknowledges that he ever makes a mistake. Geez - can't imagine having any kind of relationship (business or personal) with someone like that.

[PatSeg]

67. But he sure is quick

to take credit for anything good, even if he had nothing to do with it. He is more like a cartoon character, than a real person.

[riversedge]

18. Sessions and his gang are talking up this gang daily.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Excerpt from article from just over 10 years ago

A Fearsome Gang and Its Wannabes

By CARA BUCKLEYAUG. 19, 2007

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But critics question whether the federal government is overstating the gang’s reach. According to F.B.I. estimates, other gangs have far more members nationally. For instance, the agency puts membership in the 18th Street gang somewhere between 30,000 and 50,000; the Bloods at between 15,000 to 20,000, and the Gangster Disciples at between 50,000 to 100,000.

In February, a report by the Washington Office on Latin America, a nonprofit advocacy group, and the Autonomous Technological Institute of Mexico found few if any links between MS-13 members in Washington, D.C., and Central America and Mexico. Connie McGuire, the research and outreach coordinator of the nonprofit group, said there was no evidence of any organized network among far-flung members.

“Obviously there are individuals who need to be taken seriously who are committing serious crimes,” Ms. McGuire said. “But there’s been this portrayal of gangs as a menace that is spreading all over the continent.” “From our understanding, that’s not the general trend,” she said.

Alex Alonso, an academic who tracks gangs in Los Angeles and runs the Web site streetgangs.com, says all the attention on MS-13 has only added to the gang’s mystique. As a result, Mr. Alonso says, MS-13 has displaced the Bloods and the Crips in the popular imagination, prompting copycat gangs to form. If you’re a rebellious 15-year-old yearning to join a gang, Mr. Alonso said, what could be more alluring than becoming part of the one that has been anointed the most dangerous in the country, or indeed the world? “The feds are linking little gangs in places like South Dakota to a national network, when the kids probably never met MS-13 people,” Mr. Alonso said. “All they did was go on the Internet or to a magazine or newspaper and say, ‘That’s the gang we are.’ ”

And while insisting they do not dismiss the violence MS-13 has wrought, both Ms. McGuire and Mr. Alonso also claim that the heightened focus on the gang and other transnational gangs is related to the immigration debate.“These gangs, and the way they are visually, make a really scary image of an ‘illegal immigrant,’” Ms. McGuire said. “It’s not a coincidence that in this moment of all these tensions around immigration issues that there are new policies about transnational gangs.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/weekinreview/19buckley.html

This analysis article was written when Shrub was in office. And surprise surprise, the "immigration debate" is going on once more and up pops this group.

[Angry Dragon]

36. Former member??

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Touche!

(classic projection )

[raven mad]

63. I think sTrumpet needs a little West Side Story.

A few Sharks and Jets might wake him up to his incompetence and inability.

[BumRushDaShow]

65. But to him, the Jets

would have "some very good people" among them and the Sharks would be "a bunch of animals".

[raven mad]

69. We don't subscribe to the sTrumpet channel...............

ever!

[TNNurse]

47. I said from the beginning he was running to be dictator,

and he thinks he is one.

[Rollo]

61. Trump has regressed to full tantrum mode once again...

...where he thinks the louder and longer he throws a tantrum, the better the world will be...

It's the magical thinking of a two year old.

[PatSeg]

68. Perhaps

that DID work for him when he was a child and he is still in that spoiled-child mindset. Having money and power, gives him the leverage to get what he wants by throwing tantrums. An obnoxious Trump without money, would be that miserable jerk at the end of the bar, that everyone avoids, especially the women.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. Go for it Donnie,

best thing that could happen. Get rid of your Brownshirts.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Promises, promises...

He thinks that's a threat?

[BigmanPigman]

12. Yeah, I thought it sounded like

a good thing when I heard about it at the daily presser. I want them out of CA. I read that they were going to be at the CA State Dem Conf in San Diego this weekend and ICE is running checkpoints.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10271067

[BadgerMom]

40. I'm glad someone else had that reaction.

Three of us had that thought. We can't all be wrong!

[dhill926]

8. ah yes....president of all the people...

fuck yourself, two scoops.

[turbinetree]

9. Hey Sexual predator, do you know they have laws on the books about accused sexual predators....

do you think that California should bar you from entering the state----------to protect the woman of the state .......................I do and the rest of the fifty states and the territories and if possible the District of Columbia ......

I want to see California tell you to go and pound sand.....................because there are also laws on the books on threatening everything----------------are you that fucking stupid.........yes you are..................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

[aggiesal]

10. And we'll stop sending money to the IRS. ...

Who'll come out ahead?

We're getting back less than $1 for each $1 we give.

We'll hire extra police with the excess $$$$'s

[lapfog_1]

28. last time I checked... it's around $.72 for every $1 sent to Washington.

The real "takers" in this country live in red states

[mitch96]

49. +1 on that!!!

Deny services, deny revenue for lack of said services. Isn't California the fifth largest economy in the world????? Again the eejit shoots him self in the foot... uggh.
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[Ccarmona]

13. Californians Would Welcome the departure of ICE.

Then the liar in chief piled on: “They're doing a lousy management job, they have the highest taxes in the nation and they don't know what's happening out there,” (whatever the Hell that means).
California has a budget surplus, it’s the sixth largest economy in the World. Trump’s a nonsensical idiot.

[red dog 1]

23. + 1

[TranssexualKaren]

14. Calexit anyone?

But seriously, this man’s tendency to divide us into friends and enemies is slowly leading us to a point of national disunion!

[Exultant Democracy]

53. Why are you Pushing the Putin/Russian/Trump agenda?

This is disgusting to see here. You need to take a serious look at how you form your ideals and where they are coming from.

[Beartracks]

56. Recognizing how Trump tends to pit Americans against each other....

How is that "pushing" the Trump/Putin agenda?



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[Exultant Democracy]

71. The guy who was pumping millions into Calexit fled back to Russia months ago

The news covered it, a google would answer your question.

[Beartracks]

72. My question wasn't about Calexit, it was about your response to the post.

The poster wasn't pushing Calexit, just using it as a punchline.

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[Exultant Democracy]

74. Not a punch line, a headline big difference

if you know how the Russian work to inject these concepts back into the internet discussion ether. All Calexit chatter has to be looked at with a strong side eye and shut down with a quickness.

We are losing against Russia right now because they put people in who started with jokes and meme's on the internet and ended with Trump as POTUS.

[EllieBC]

70. Ok good luck

figuring out the quagmire of social security, Medicare, Medicaid, highway system, etc.. Stop pushing Russian talking points.

[reggaehead]

15. When he pulls ICE

He can take those hundreds of thousands of Federal Prisoners housed in California at the expense of Californians.

[dbackjon]

17. Wouldn't crime go down without Trump's Gestapo?

Can you pull them from Arizona, as well?

[riversedge]

20. and there is Trumpy sitting with arms across his chest once again..

For some reason it irks me when I see these pics--which is most of the time lately.

https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media d328c6644dd47d2906d29a2c969a5bd/800.jpeg

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

27. The L.A. branch of Toastmasters uses his "arms crossed" posture as an example of body language

President Trump is not venturing out and you're not coming in.

I know where I've seen this posture before:

[not fooled]

33. Also

[link:|]


[link:|]

[NickB79]

58. The Simpsons nailed it years before Trump became POTUS

They have a goddamn crystal ball, I swear.

[Cold War Spook]

77. When I first saw that picture all I could think about was

"I love myself I think I'm grand and when I go to the movies I hold my hand. I put my arms around my waist and when I'm fresh I slap my face. I'm a nut"

[djacq]

21. The Orange Clown abusing his power

[link:

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[Xipe Totec]

22. He's sending Kelly Anne to lay down traffic cones at the border crossings. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. California would cheer. It's economy would continue to grow faster than US average.

Not like Kansas. Send ICE to Kansas. They love ICE there.

[red dog 1]

26. The woman who alleges that Shitler raped her when she was 13 is from CA

She gave a deposition in US District Court, under penalty of perjury, that Trump and his long-time friend & convicted pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein both raped her at Epstein's NYC townhouse when she was 13-years-old.

Also in a US District Court deposition, under oath, a second woman stated that she witnessed Trump raping the 13-year-old girl.

https://www.justiceforkatie.com

Wouldn't it be great if the Orange Asshat slipped on the ICE one of these days?

[I wish Trump would visit San Francisco sometime soon...but he won't, because he's a coward!]

[jmowreader]

29. Uhh...

That means they can keep the customs duties from all the freight entering California? I get the strange feeling that the State of California could set up the same kind of operation ICE has right now, but one that Trump isn't trying to make fail so people beg for the private sector to take over.

[GreydeeThos]

31. If he agrees to remove the DEA at the same time, he has a deal

Might as well tell the military to pack up all their weapons of mass destruction for good measure

[tinrobot]

32. This Californian would welcome that...

I'm sure a lot of my neighbors would as well.

[Renew Deal]

34. Why is he willing to get tough with California, but not with Russia?

[rpannier]

38. I like that

Should be made into a bumper sticker and a sign.
'Why is trump getting tough with California and not Russia'

[christx30]

46. Because, once again, it's all about him.

And California didn't help him get elected. Russia did. That's why he won't go after Russia.

[TygrBright]

35. Please don't throw me in that briar patch!! n/t

[gay texan]

39. +1

beat me to it!

[PatrickforO]

41. Good. Pull ICE out of other states as well.

Pass the Dream Act.

Pass sensible immigration laws and then enforce them.

Severely penalize companies who hire illegals, because if you remove the power to shamelessly exploit illegal workers for the sake of more profits, then you can begin from a place of fairness and sanity.

[keithbvadu2]

42. An empty bluff

[3Hotdogs]

43. Oh please, B'rer Fox, don't throw me in the briar patch.

[lordsummerisle]

44. K&R n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

48. Can we get that in writing?

[Doitnow]

50. Sounds like a good plan. The sooner the better.

[David__77]

51. Good idea- remove them.

...

[left-of-center2012]

52. Please remove them from New Mexico as well.

We are proud of our sanctuary cities.

[dhill926]

54. please proceed.....asshole....

[BlueIdaho]

55. Please Do!

California doesn’t need your fucking storm troopers kicking in doors and Ripping families apart.

[wryter2000]

57. That's supposed to be a punishment?

[rickford66]

59. King Midas ... except s**t instead of gold.

[DownFromTheMountain]

60. Proceed, Governor

It's a fantastic Idea Sir!
Sooner the better!

[briv1016]

64. Can New York get in on this too? How about Illinois, Massachusetts?

[ProfessorGAC]

66. Is Anyone Really Surprised?

An idiotic comment by an idiot. Not exactly a revelation.

[Dan]

73. Wonder if Trump

Remembers that part that says ‘faithfully execute...’

[raven mad]

75. The major giggles you hear?

They're coming from Mexico and South America..................

[shanny]

76. Please proceed, mr preznit

[Kablooie]

78. The president who wants to increase crime in the US.

Just upholding the Constitution like I vowed to.