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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:43 PM Feb 2018

Pruitt: Bible says 'harvest the natural resources'

Source: The Hill




BY TIMOTHY CAMA - 02/22/18 04:28 PM EST

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) head Scott Pruitt said his desire to use the Earth’s resources like oil and coal is grounded in the Bible.

In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network published Thursday, Pruitt spoke about how his Christian views inform his views on the environment and environmental policy.

“The biblical world view with respect to these issues is that we have a responsibility to manage and cultivate, harvest the natural resources that we've been blessed with to truly bless our fellow mankind,” he told CBN’s David Brody.

Trump’s top environmental regulator, who has overseen aggressive rollbacks of rules on greenhouse gases, air pollution, water pollution, chemicals and more, tied religion also into his ongoing criticisms of left-wing environmentalists. He accuses them of wanting to shut down drilling and other resource development.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/375148-pruitt-bible-says-harvest-the-natural-resources

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Pruitt: Bible says 'harvest the natural resources' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
'Dominion' is not Liquidation, asshat Maine-i-acs Feb 2018 #1
Right! Chrysanthemum Feb 2018 #9
Plus--Who cares what the bible says, anyway..... pangaia Feb 2018 #31
Actually, isn't that word really supposed to be "stewardship?" raging moderate Feb 2018 #53
Like lungs? NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #2
And a reminder to the asshat that the Bible is not the law of the land, MANative Feb 2018 #3
Proof that religion can make you blind Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #4
Actually, it say to be a "steward", meaning think of generations ahead for wise management. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #5
Yes, Steward, but he's thinking Plunder appalachiablue Feb 2018 #15
Oil isnt harvested or cultivated, because it is not replinishable for one thing. notdarkyet Feb 2018 #6
Fuck the Dominionists!! (Resist them too!!) malchickiwick Feb 2018 #7
Who the f**k is he kidding??? atreides1 Feb 2018 #8
What you said. OldHippieChick Feb 2018 #21
"Harvest" means gather a crop. Meaning...it will grow again. "Harvest" does not mean "take." Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #10
Another good reason to keep Bronze Age superstitions out of government and procon Feb 2018 #11
THIS! Glorfindel Feb 2018 #22
Let us pray away toxic releases, LUSTs, and superfund sites too. Thoughts and prayers. Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #12
+1 appalachiablue Feb 2018 #13
The Onion has come to real life. Pruitt is making America a laughing stock as much as Shitler. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #30
Note to Pruitt: It doesn't matter what the Bible says NastyRiffraff Feb 2018 #14
These fundies don't read MountCleaners Feb 2018 #16
Dominion over all of God's Blessings. magicarpet Feb 2018 #17
That's exactly what they say. SergeStorms Feb 2018 #25
Excellent itemization of Family values. dchill Feb 2018 #50
So our country is run by 2000 year olds? sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #18
There's a contradiction between "conservative," whose root means "to conserve" and "dominionist," LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #19
Fuck Pruitt and his ASShole "religion" turbinetree Feb 2018 #20
Bible schmible. snort Feb 2018 #23
Hey.....Pruitt, SergeStorms Feb 2018 #24
you knew this was coming bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #26
My Bible says to be "Stewards" of the earth and take care of the gifts God gave us. appleannie1943 Feb 2018 #27
God: Bible also says Pruitt should be put to death for a numbers of sins. DRoseDARs Feb 2018 #28
.... handmade34 Feb 2018 #38
well if faith moves mountains then we don't need any equipment bluestarone Feb 2018 #29
'Harvest', 'burn', what's the difference, eh? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #32
May I invoke the Bard? DemoTex Feb 2018 #33
James Watt returns rpannier Feb 2018 #34
100 Bible Verses about Stewardship Of God's Creation keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #35
I doubt Jesus was talking about fracking or oil or gas blueinredohio Feb 2018 #36
The Bible also says, Bayard Feb 2018 #37
Pruitt is a fucking fascist shithole motherfucker... GReedDiamond Feb 2018 #39
It also says not to eat pork sakabatou Feb 2018 #40
I guess if we're gonna set policy based on the Bible, we better bring back slavery. tclambert Feb 2018 #41
Bother. Solly Mack Feb 2018 #42
Ancient Alien enthusiasts... Toorich Feb 2018 #43
Sounds like the reincarnation of James Watt. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2018 #44
talk about cherry-picking RussBLib Feb 2018 #45
Funny thing, my bible tells me to harvest Scott Pruitt's organs. royable Feb 2018 #46
Economics Escapes These People modrepub Feb 2018 #47
the bible can't talk, a person has to read it. olddad56 Feb 2018 #48
I had an imaginary friend when I was 3. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #49
Does it matter at all that 2,000 plus years ago there were at best some 300 million PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #51
Planet Earth says: "If you keep on using me, you're going to use me up!" democratisphere Feb 2018 #52
Um...please do tell, Mr Pruitt Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #54
Sooooooo ... area51 Feb 2018 #55
The sun and wind are also "natural resources" jmowreader Feb 2018 #56

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
1. 'Dominion' is not Liquidation, asshat
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:45 PM
Feb 2018

We were given responsibility over this planet to manage it wisely, not take everything and burn it up.
I would ask that he reread his Bible but I suspect he was skimming or cherry picking in the first place.

Chrysanthemum

(188 posts)
9. Right!
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:51 PM
Feb 2018

Good stewardship of resources is also called for in his Bible, to be exercised with wisdom, not with greed!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
31. Plus--Who cares what the bible says, anyway.....
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:52 PM
Feb 2018


Commonsense says take care of one's self. And the planet is part of one's self...


raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
53. Actually, isn't that word really supposed to be "stewardship?"
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:35 AM
Feb 2018

I read that the original Hebrew word meant "stewardship," which really goes better with the nearby passage which states that God wanted to see human beings safekeep the Earth and dress it up.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
3. And a reminder to the asshat that the Bible is not the law of the land,
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:48 PM
Feb 2018

the Constitution is. I suspect he hasn't read either in any great detail.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
5. Actually, it say to be a "steward", meaning think of generations ahead for wise management.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:49 PM
Feb 2018

But it is all poppycock, a propagandistic shield for the Pave The Earth Dominionists.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
6. Oil isnt harvested or cultivated, because it is not replinishable for one thing.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:50 PM
Feb 2018

I don’t think pesticides count as part of nature’s bounty. Sick of these idiots and their crazy interpretations of the Bible. Bet he hasn’t read it.what are the specific verses?

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
7. Fuck the Dominionists!! (Resist them too!!)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:51 PM
Feb 2018

They want to turn our secular Republic into a Christian Taliban. Traitors to everything the Founders held dear!!

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
8. Who the f**k is he kidding???
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:51 PM
Feb 2018

“The biblical world view with respect to these issues is that we have a responsibility to manage and cultivate, harvest the natural resources that we've been blessed with to truly bless our fellow mankind,”

How is mankind blessed by water we can't drink, air that sickens or kills us, and land that can't grow crops? And the only ones being "blessed" are those who own coal, gas, and oil companies!!!

F**k Pruitt and his brand of Christianity and all of those that buy into the bull shit he spews!!!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. "Harvest" means gather a crop. Meaning...it will grow again. "Harvest" does not mean "take."
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:52 PM
Feb 2018

Harvest doesn't mean take natural resources that don't regenerate. Harvest does not mean destroy.

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. Another good reason to keep Bronze Age superstitions out of government and
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:54 PM
Feb 2018

base policy decisions on science, and not convenient ruses with the goal of self enrichment.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
12. Let us pray away toxic releases, LUSTs, and superfund sites too. Thoughts and prayers.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

No science, stewardship, nor management needed. The good book will provide.

Fucking insanity.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
30. The Onion has come to real life. Pruitt is making America a laughing stock as much as Shitler.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:26 PM
Feb 2018

Even the mullahs of Iran and Saudi Arabia must be keeling over at the idiocy.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
14. Note to Pruitt: It doesn't matter what the Bible says
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:00 PM
Feb 2018

It's not the U.S. Constitution; what it says regarding what we can/cannot do in the U.S. is irrelevant.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
16. These fundies don't read
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:05 PM
Feb 2018

It's clear that they never got past Genesis.

The Bible contains numerous examples of the care with which we are expected to treat the environment. Leviticus 25:1-12 speaks of the care Israel was to have for the land. Deuteronomy 25:4 and 22:6 indicates the proper care for domestic animals and a respect for wildlife. In Isaiah 5:8-10 the Lord judges those who have misused the land. Job 38:25-28 and Psalm 104:27-30 speak of God's nurture and care for His creation. Psalm 104 tells us that certain places were made with certain animals in mind. This would make our national parks and wilderness preserves a biblical concept. And Jesus spoke on two occasions of how much the Father cared for even the smallest sparrow (Matt. 6:26, 10:29). How can we do less?


https://bible.org/article/christian-environmentalism

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
17. Dominion over all of God's Blessings.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:05 PM
Feb 2018

Rape, plunder, pilfer, pirate, privatize to your hearts content. All is here for you to exploit, future coming generations are on their own if all resources are needlessly expended.

Let them worry about it.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
25. That's exactly what they say.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:02 PM
Feb 2018

"Let them worry about it," or "god will provide for them just as he provided for us, " or "jebus will come back to earth by then and we'll all be raptured." You see, there won't be any need for the planet earth!

You can't fix stupid, and these people are seriously broken.

19. There's a contradiction between "conservative," whose root means "to conserve" and "dominionist,"
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:14 PM
Feb 2018

whose root means "to exert dominion over," or as it's popularly known, "to rape, pillage and plunder."

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
20. Fuck Pruitt and his ASShole "religion"
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:17 PM
Feb 2018

DOMINIONISM RISING: A THEOCRATIC MOVEMENT HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT

By Frederick Clarkson, on August 18, 2016

This article appears in the Summer 2016 edition of The Public Eye magazine.

In June 2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) held a private meeting with conservative movement leaders to plot his political future. Attendees afterwards cast him in the role of Ronald Reagan, who’d lost the 1976 Republican presidential nomination to Gerald Ford but led a conservative comeback in 1980 that made Jimmy Carter a one-term president. The thinking was that Cruz did well enough in the 2016 Republican presidential primaries before losing to celebrity billionaire Donald Trump that he could plan to run again in 2020 or 2024. “He was with kindred spirits,” said Brent Bozell, the conservative activist who hosted the meeting, “and I would say most people in that room see him as the leader of the conservative movement.”1

The rise of Ted Cruz is a singular event in American political history. The son of a Cuban refugee and evangelical pastor, Cruz was raised in the kind of evangelicalism-with-a-theocratic-bent that has come to epitomize a significant and growing trend in American public life. That is, dominionism: a dynamic ideology that arose from the swirls and eddies of American evangelicalism to animate the Christian Right, and become a defining feature of modern politics and culture.

Dominionism is the theocratic idea that regardless of theological camp, means, or timetable, God has called conservative Christians to exercise dominion over society by taking control of political and cultural institutions. The term describes a broad tendency across a wide swath of American Christianity. People who embrace this idea are referred to as dominionists. Although Chip Berlet, then of Political Research Associates, and I defined and popularized the term for many in the 1990s,in fact it had (along with the term dominion theology) been in use by both evangelical proponents and critics for many years.


Dominionism Defined (click to expand)

Dominionism is the theocratic idea that regardless of theological view, means, or timetable, Christians are called by God to exercise dominion over every aspect of society by taking control of political and cultural institutions.

Analyst Chip Berlet and I have suggested that there is a dominionist spectrum running from soft to hard as a way of making some broad distinctions among dominionists without getting mired in theological minutiae.106 But we also agree that:

Dominionists celebrate Christian nationalism, in that they believe that the United States once was, and should once again be, a Christian nation. In this way, they deny the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.

Dominionists promote religious supremacy, insofar as they generally do not respect the equality of other religions, or even other versions of Christianity.

Dominionists endorse theocratic visions, insofar as they believe that the Ten Commandments, or “biblical law,” should be the foundation of American law, and that the U.S. Constitution should be seen as a vehicle for implementing biblical principles.107
Of course, Christian nationalism takes a distinct form in the United States, but dominionism in all of its variants has a vision for all nations.


https://www.politicalresearch.org/2016/08/18/dominionism-rising-a-theocratic-movement-hiding-in-plain-sight/


He really is a fucking asshole.............................and Mitch McConnell and his republican party should have this asshole planted like an albatross around their fucking necks this coming November


FUCK HIM.....................



November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
24. Hey.....Pruitt,
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:56 PM
Feb 2018

next time you get ill, or need an operation, why don't you use Bronze Age healing techniques. Hey, they were state of the art then, so they must be just as effective today, correct?

Brain-dead Republicans. They're not worth the powder it would take to blow them to hell.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
28. God: Bible also says Pruitt should be put to death for a numbers of sins.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:11 PM
Feb 2018

Cursing, working on the Sabbath, wearing mixed fibers. À la carte Christians are precious.




People that turn to the Bible to justify their bullshit really need to just sit down and shut the fuck up.

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
33. May I invoke the Bard?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:02 PM
Feb 2018

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

Wm. Shakespeare
The Merchant of Venice
Act 1 - Scene 3

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
35. 100 Bible Verses about Stewardship Of God's Creation
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:57 PM
Feb 2018

100 Bible Verses about Stewardship Of God's Creation

https://www.openbible.info/topics/stewardship_of_gods_creation

Jeremiah 2 : 7 ESV /

And I brought you into a plentiful land to enjoy its fruits and its good things. But when you came in, you defiled my land and made my heritage an abomination.

Bayard

(22,100 posts)
37. The Bible also says,
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:09 PM
Feb 2018

"Thou shall not kill". These policies are not only killing the environment, they are killing us.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
41. I guess if we're gonna set policy based on the Bible, we better bring back slavery.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:03 PM
Feb 2018

And stoning adulterers to death. Ooh, Stormy Daniels and Trump better watch out.

Toorich

(391 posts)
43. Ancient Alien enthusiasts...
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:32 AM
Feb 2018

believe that aliens built the Tower of Babel as an oil derrick. They needed petroleum for space ship fuel and plastics and the lost technologies for making nutritionally delicious food stuffs that the Israelites called manna from heaven.

royable

(1,264 posts)
46. Funny thing, my bible tells me to harvest Scott Pruitt's organs.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 08:42 PM
Feb 2018

After all, he won't be needing them after the rapture.

modrepub

(3,496 posts)
47. Economics Escapes These People
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 08:55 PM
Feb 2018

Oil and Coal are quickly becoming or already have become too expensive. It's cheaper to build a combined cycle natural gas plant than a new coal plant; about $1B for the former and about $6B for the latter. Electricity consumers don't care if the megawatt is made burning gas, coal or if you put 100,000 people on stationary bike generators. The current fleet of coal units are just running on their good graces. No one is going to invest in rebuilding them when they eventually break down. No bank is going to invest $1B in an old inefficient coal plant when you can buy a brand new gas plant (or wind farm) and create the same amount of electricity.

Same thing for opening up off shore areas for oil exploration. That's a significant investment for unknown returns. The price of oil collapses and it wipes out any hope for recouping your investment. We are only a few decades (or less) away from viable electric vehicles. Once that happens there's no need for all this oil (except for fertilizers).

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
48. the bible can't talk, a person has to read it.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:41 PM
Feb 2018

that is why it is so subject to interpretation.

Wasn't the earth considered to be flat when they wrote it?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
49. I had an imaginary friend when I was 3.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:59 PM
Feb 2018

Or so my mother tells me.

We now have a government of people who not only believe they have an imaginary friend, but think he talks to them.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
51. Does it matter at all that 2,000 plus years ago there were at best some 300 million
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:16 AM
Feb 2018

people on this planet? Were the population still at that level, we could plunder our resources and it would hardly matter. But, not to be too much of a Debbie Downer, there are over 7 billion people currently on this planet, a figure that is clearly above a sustainable number. Personally, I think a sustainable population is no more than 1 billion, and at some point there will be a population crash.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
54. Um...please do tell, Mr Pruitt
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:47 AM
Feb 2018

Where in your Oath of Office, or for that matter the US Constitution that it states that we should plunder our natural resources because God says so...I’ll even do you one better: Where in the US Constitution is God mentioned?? Just one reference Sir, just one single reference....ok, then GFY!!

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