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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:33 PM Feb 2018

Special counsel Mueller files new charges in Manafort, Gates case

Source: Washington Post

New charges were filed Thursday against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his business partner, ratcheting up the legal pressure on them as they prepare for a trial later this year.

A new indictment has long been expected in special counsel Robert S. Mueller IIIs prosecution of Manafort and his right-hand man, Rick Gates, on fraud and money laundering charges. Manafort served as President Trumps campaign chairman from June to August 2016. Gates also served as a top official on Trumps campaign. The new indictment contains 32 counts, including tax charges.

The filing Thursday comes at a time of significant uncertainty in the case about when a trial might happen, or even who the defense lawyers will be. Last week, U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson criticized both sides for what she called unacceptable delays in a case which still doesnt have a trial date set.

Manafort and Gates were hit with a 12-count indictment in October the first criminal charges in Muellers probe of Russian interference with the 2016 election. That indictment focused not on events in the 2016 race but financial transactions involving work by Manafort and Gates for a Ukrainian political party, and their failure to notify U.S. authorities that they were allegedly acting as lobbyists for a foreign government.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-mueller-files-new-charges-in-manafort-gates-case/2018/02/22/7db99c9c-1716-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html



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Special counsel Mueller files new charges in Manafort, Gates case (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 OP
Do you get the feeling he's trying to send a message to Manafort? brooklynite Feb 2018 #1
Yup and BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #3
His nuts are in a great big bench vise and Mueller keeps turning the handle! mobeau69 Feb 2018 #2
I Love DU! thbobby Feb 2018 #4
That's why I'm primarily a LBNer BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #6
I agree with you thbobby Feb 2018 #13
"LBN" is "Late Breaking News" BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #15
Thanks! thbobby Feb 2018 #24
I hear ya! BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #25
Loved how she asked what do conservatives stand for now dhol82 Feb 2018 #16
Manafucked Dopers_Greed Feb 2018 #5
Money laundering for Russian mobsters TranssexualKaren Feb 2018 #7
I'm a tad confused Chrysanthemum Feb 2018 #8
I think (EDIT BELOW) BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #9
i feel with the new charges his ass should be in JAIL!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #10
Here it is: mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #11
Annnnd... sheshe2 Feb 2018 #12
I love me a little friday surprise.... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #14
Ha! sheshe2 Feb 2018 #20
We are approaching such a level.. FarPoint Feb 2018 #27
Yes! sheshe2 Feb 2018 #31
This is right in the middle of CPAC too. BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #17
Oh dear! sheshe2 Feb 2018 #21
Wonder what happened to the possible plea deal by Gates? dhol82 Feb 2018 #18
That's what's being speculated in a GD thread BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #19
Well that is some depressing news dhol82 Feb 2018 #22
I wouldn't consider it depressing BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #23
Gates and/or Manafort are still gonna sing. mobeau69 Feb 2018 #28
Don't jump. Folks there are speculating and treating guess as established fact. Wrong move. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #30
Gates is stalling. Change lawyers, not change lawyers, ask for more documents, lawyers then Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #33
Barry Pollack profile OnDoutside Feb 2018 #26
Wasn't Andrew Weissman one of fed prosecutors on Enron? DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #32
"Known to cut plea deals", according to article. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #34
But, But, But... money laundering isn't collusion... Rollo Feb 2018 #29
Things like this, illegal and fraudulent financial transactions, could make them sing on something Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #35
If you want to use real estate to launder money, the charging docs against Manafort show how. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #36
Getting closer to Trumpy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 #37

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. I Love DU!
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:42 PM
Feb 2018

Was watching Nicole Wallace and she just mentioned new Mueller charges. Immediately came to DU for information. DU, you ROCK!

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
6. That's why I'm primarily a LBNer
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:44 PM
Feb 2018

Banner pops up on my phone and it's off to the races getting the article to post!

I get probably 90% of my news from DU now. Don't have to watch the blabbering talking heads.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
13. I agree with you
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

I get most of my news from DU. I like watching Nicolle because of her rage against trump. Of course, she has rage against the machine she helped build, but still. Also, Rachel helps me understand how things fit together. Nicole is fun to watch, but like DU, Rachel ROCKS! Thanks for the post BumRushDaShow. Also, I am a little ignorant. What does LBNer stand for?

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
15. "LBN" is "Late Breaking News"
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

which is the name of this forum, so "LBNer" is... well... a news junkie. I usually sit on DU's main homepage and look at the news column (and refresh it to update) and also look at the trending threads from other forums... then I may pop over to General Discussion.

Since I get up early in the morning and tend to hit the bed earlier, so if something is really going on, I'll listen to Rachel on SiriusXM (it has MSNBC as a channel) while in bed. I have purposely had no TV in my bedroom (been like that for almost 25 years).

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
24. Thanks!
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:32 PM
Feb 2018

I feel a little less ignorant. I also refuse to have a TV in my bedroom. Bedroom is for sleeping - once had other dreams for bedroom but now is just an old memory.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
16. Loved how she asked what do conservatives stand for now
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:04 PM
Feb 2018

Said something like they are just corrupt apologists for Russia.

The woman rocks!

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
7. Money laundering for Russian mobsters
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:44 PM
Feb 2018

Since a Manafort cooperation would require him to roll over on Russian mobsters, wouldn’t such a deal require some sort of witness protection? Otherwise he may have to spend the rest of his life in prison but at least he would still be alive.

Chrysanthemum

(188 posts)
8. I'm a tad confused
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:46 PM
Feb 2018

Yesterday a sealed filing was made to the case number indicating the case against Manafort and Gates.

Does anyone know if this is just the unsealing of that document, or is this something separate?

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
9. I think (EDIT BELOW)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:47 PM
Feb 2018

there was one filing dealing with Gates' lawyers that was sealed. This may be separate.

Just saw on the GD thread that this may have come from 2 different grand juries - the one yesterday that you may be referencing and this one today. I.e., a D.C. Grand Jury & a Virginia Grand Jury.

GD thread post here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210274911#post10

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
27. We are approaching such a level..
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:50 PM
Feb 2018

Mueller got some pawns, a castle, a Knight/ Flynn now surrounding the Queen, Manafort....

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
28. Gates and/or Manafort are still gonna sing.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:54 PM
Feb 2018

They were stalling so Mueller tipped his hand just enough so they won't be getting any sleep tonight!


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
30. Don't jump. Folks there are speculating and treating guess as established fact. Wrong move.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:03 PM
Feb 2018

It's not healthy, to begin with.

Do not panic.

Mueller is doing lots of things that you do not know about.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
33. Gates is stalling. Change lawyers, not change lawyers, ask for more documents, lawyers then
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:16 PM
Feb 2018

need time to review etc....not sure why....has to be a political advantage he sees, maybe?

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
26. Barry Pollack profile
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:46 PM
Feb 2018

Barry Pollack represents individuals and corporations in criminal investigations and trials, and in other government enforcement matters such as Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) proceedings. Mr. Pollack also conducts corporate investigations. As a former certified public accountant (CPA), a substantial focus of his practice is the litigation of complex financial matters. Mr. Pollack's clients have included Fortune 500 corporations and their senior executives and high-ranking government officials, including members of Congress.

Mr. Pollack has extensive jury trial experience and is best known for his skills in the courtroom. Chambers USA describes Mr. Pollack as a "thorough and deep-thinking lawyer" who is well known for his "tenacity, willingness and ability to fight cases in the courtroom," and who "lives, breathes and sleeps trials, and has such a natural way in front of juries." The 2015 edition of Who's Who Legal: Business Crime Defence lists Mr. Pollack as a premier lawyer, noting that he is described as "incredibly gifted." Mr. Pollack obtained acquittals on all counts on behalf of a former executive of Enron Corporation in a federal criminal case, following a month long jury trial. Mr. Pollack’s client was one of only two Enron executives to be acquitted by a jury. Most recently, Mr. Pollack obtained a not guilty verdict on all counts in a federal criminal bribery and fraud jury trial in Virginia.

From his lawyer website profile.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
32. Wasn't Andrew Weissman one of fed prosecutors on Enron?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:09 PM
Feb 2018

I'm sure he'd like another crack at Mr Pollack.

I think Gates will flip. Pollack will review the evidence and probably tell him not to risk jail protecting either Manafort or Trump.

Manafort might be a tougher nut. I think Mueller will find a way to revoke Manafort's bail agreement and put him jail until trial. Manafort hates home confinement now, imagine how he'll feel abou

Even if Trump pardons them, they will have to testify because they're no longer in jeopardy of federal indictment.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
29. But, But, But... money laundering isn't collusion...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:02 PM
Feb 2018

"There is no collusion!!!"

Says Twittler, unprompted, repeatedly, in the middle of the wee hours of the morning...

He's toast.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
35. Things like this, illegal and fraudulent financial transactions, could make them sing on something
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:22 PM
Feb 2018

else Mueller is investigating....like political collusion.

One bank lender “questioned Manafort about a $300,000 delinquency on his American Express card, which was more than 90 days past due. The delinquency significantly affected Manafort’s credit rating score.” In response, according to the indictment, Manafort got Gates to supply a letter falsely claiming that he, not Manafort, had borrowed the card to make the purchases and would pay him back.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
36. If you want to use real estate to launder money, the charging docs against Manafort show how.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:18 PM
Feb 2018

Retweeted by David Fahrenthold: https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold

If you're interested in using real estate to launder money, the charging docs against Manafort offer an excellent primer


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