Trump says John Kelly would stop mass shootings if he was a teacher with a gun:'The bullets would..

[DonViejo]

Source: RawStory




Trump says John Kelly would stop mass shootings if he was a teacher with a gun: ‘The bullets would be flying’

DAVID EDWARDS
22 FEB 2018 AT 13:45 ET

President Donald Trump on Thursday insisted that White House Chief of Staff John Kelly could personally stop any school shooting if he were a teacher armed with a gun.

At a roundtable discussion about school violence, Trump noted Kelly was a four star general and a “tough cookie.”

“If he was a teacher, I wouldn’t mind having him have a gun,” the president said. “Because I guarantee you, he can use it better than anybody. There’s not security guard that you’re going to hire that’s going to handle a gun better than him. So if he’s a teacher and other friends of his from the Marines are teaching or other people like that, you want them to have a gun.”

“But almost more importantly, nobody is going to attack that school,” he continued. “Because they know General Kelly is the history teacher. He’s teaching about how we win wars, okay? And he’s got a concealed weapon. But they’re going to know he got a concealed [weapon] because we tell them that the bullets are going to be flying in the other direction.”

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[sakabatou]

1. Right, turn every school in a battle zone

That ought'a do it!

[Hortensis]

33. But they wouldn't, only some. I think Trump's right

when he says, "But almost more importantly, nobody is going to attack that school."

Wannabe mass murderers would probably attack another, unarmed school, preferably one they'd once attended I'm guessing? Or maybe they'd attack a school bus filled with children at a stop before it arrived to school? Or... really any place students gather, like ball parks, that were not the armed school.

And people think Trump's dumb.

[bettyellen]

2. Hes totally nuts! Kelly hasnt trained in how many years? Trump went to a military school and would

Love to punish all of us by militarizing our schools. What a fucked up man.

[lapfog_1]

3. There is a reason we don't send 60 year old generals

to fight on the front lines... their reaction times are not those of a trained 22 year old. And the bullets don't care how "tough" your general is... unless he is wearing a lot of body armor they are going to kill him like any other victim.

[mpcamb]

13. There'd be a lot fewer wars if we did put them up front.

[lapfog_1]

18. Most generals did spend time on the "front lines" at one point in their career

most do not want to promote a war. That is the fault of the civilian commanders like the "Champaign Brigade" Bush and the "cadet bone spurs" tRump.

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. Yep. Tge NRA slapped him upside the head

and told him to get with the program.

They own him.

[KatyaR]

5. So let's requrie all former Special Forces to become teachers.

That should take care of it, don't you think? Who cares about educating and caring for our children--just give us a guy with a gun, that's all we need....

[snowybirdie]

17. Son was a Green Baret

Who's going to pay him enough to feed and educate his family, pay his mortgage and live a middle class life? Ridiculous! P. S. He's an avowed progressive who hates guns and what they can do

[Still In Wisconsin]

6. You tell 'em, Cadet Bone Spurs! We know where you were when the bullets were flying in SE Asia:

You were living through your own self-described "personal Vietnam" by screwing women without a condom, risking getting a case of the clap.

[Angry Dragon]

7. Big talker................knows nothing

[Thomas Hurt]

8. harped on mental health issues of the shooters, and now.......

these same shooters are rational and reasonable and can be swayed by guns as a deterrence.

Which is it?

[dhol82]

9. Somehow, I can not see my ninth grade math teacher

Miss Owen, all 4’11 and 70 pounds of her, strapping on an AR15 to take out a crazed shooter.

Frankly, I can’t even see General Kelly being able to respond now since he does not do any king of arms training on a regular basis.

Bunch of idiots.

[Bleacher Creature]

10. Jesus Fucking Christ! I don't want bullets flying in any direction in schools. NT

[mpcamb]

11. John Kelly is a liar and should be in an unemployment line.

[CatMor]

12. He is completely unhinged......

I realize he's not too smart but this is crazy.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. Oh fuck you! You grotesque meat goblin. nt

[Judi Lynn]

34. You speak for many! Bless you. n/t

[Dave Starsky]

15. My high school history was an Army sergeant combat vet.

He was a notorious Democrat.

I can guarantee you that if you told him he would have to start carrying a gun to school, he would not only tell you to shove your gun up your ass, he would probably also help you do it.

[mtngirl47]

16. He's just digging in deeper and deeper in an effort to seem relevant to this discussion.

He's a freaking idiot.

[Freethinker65]

19. So, Kelly is qualified to teach history solely because Trump thinks Kelly can handle a gun

No more need for teaching degrees nor certification. Let NRA members and former service members "teach" calculus, AP physics, honors English, and computer science courses. Trump is fucking brilliant. I am sure Betsy DeVos will love the idea.

[procon]

20. Trump watches too many Hollywood movies and he can't tell fiction

from real life. It's a fantasy to assume that the 68 year old Kelly is going to morph into a action hero and wipe out bad guys with his amazing super powers.

[Sophia4]

21. But John Kelly wouldn't become a teacher and probably wouldn't have the patience

to be a good one if he did.

He may have taught adults, but teaching high school or junior high school students is a very, very different matter. Much less kindergarten. Takes a special person to teach children and teenagers. College teaching is very different. To get into college, you have to demonstrate a certain level of maturity and knowledge.

You don't wipe noses when you teach in a college. You don't stop fights on the playground. You don't use guns to stop fights on the playground in grade school or in high school.

I don't think that Kelly would ever teach K-12. That's just now where he is as a person.

[packman]

22. Jeez - G.I. Joe Kelly

[PatSeg]

23. As clueless as ever

What a waste of oxygen.

[forgotmylogin]

24. Would Kelly stop the bullets with his silver bracelets and massive chest?

We don't want to toughen them up, you elitist, gold spoon-chewing old codger, you've not faced a trouble or care in your entire life. You could have "toughened up" and ignored your bone spurs, so shut your fat, drooling, STD-ridden mouth.

[keithbvadu2]

25. Kelly will cover the entire school from his classroom, eh?

Kelly will cover the entire school from his classroom, eh?

What a guy!

[riversedge]

26. It is obvious when silly, dangerous Trump does not have a Telepromter in front of him. What a FOOL!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

27. Just one more way Trump is trying to cover the NRA's gunhumping ass.

[bdtrppr6]

28. i just can't anymore

this shit is just crazy.

[COLGATE4]

29. More infantile hero worship from Orange Shitgibbon.

He's been watching too many "Walker, Texas Ranger" and Steven Segal flicks.

[LuvLoogie]

30. I swear to fucking Odd I thought this was a bad satire piece.

Holy shit. VOTE MOTHER FUCKERS! VOTE!

[magicarpet]

31. Toxic masculinity running amok .....

"The days of the pajama boys are over, this is the new age for the alpha male."

(As stated by the Nazi
Sebastian Gorka)

[LiberalLovinLug]

32. Even if you took this at face value and looked at the logistics

1. Most of these shooters are disturbed in some way, and have the intention of ending it all for themselves after or during their rampage. So the fear of death is not something they would even consider.

2. Most of these shooters pick a target building for a particular reason. Its not just a random building. Its an important symbol to them.

3. A security officer or teacher can't start shooting someone first because they seem a bit off, obviously. Any shooter would be a surprise, and he would most likely still be able to shoot some of the students, even if he was gunned down at some point. And he'd still be able to take a hostage like this last guy was planning to do. ie..most of the crime would have already been committed.

[FSogol]

35. "He'd be like pew, pew, pew," Trumpy said, making a tiny gun with his little fingers....

[reggaehead]

36. He would have did the same thing the deputy did

And that is wait for backup.

[dalton99a]

37. Too cowardly to volunteer for it himself

[Calista241]

38. So, i think it's clear Trump is not going to fire John Kelly.

He idolizes the man.

[Kali]

39. OMG

he is such a fucking moron

[yonder]

40. If that's a window into his internal dialogue, he's losing it by the minute. At our expense.

His speech patterns and logic are no better than an eight year old - he just doesn't talk like an adult. "almost more importantly" WTF does that mean? It is or isn't. And his constant choice of absolutist language: "I guarantee you", "better than anybody", "There’s not (a) security guard", "better than him", “Because they know", "they’re going to know", "bullets are going to be", etc., etc. A person could ask him how, when, why or where to anything he says and he could not give an answer supported by facts. Because he just. doesn't. know. Or care.

The other day somebody used the word "ninny" to describe him. It made me laugh because I haven't heard that in a while. Damn, we're in some serious shit

Aaaaauuuugggghhhh! I can't stand it anymore.

[moondust]

41. Stunning stupidity.

"nobody is going to attack that school"

As Colbert just pointed out, these killers are not rational. They're not likely to care how much security there is. If they can reason at all they'll know they are either going to die doing their deed or spend the rest of their lives in prison. They're not going to be deterred by any kind of security.

[milestogo]

42. John Kelly is an assault-weapon-resistant superhero.

[CRK7376]

43. This retired Army officer,

Afghanistan combat vet and current high school history teacher shudders at the thought of me or fellow staff members armed and trying to engage a shooter in my 1600 kids high school. I have visions of kids and faculty fleeing down the hallway with a teacher and gun trying to go against that flow of panicked students and staff evacuating the building, holding a steady site picture and engaging the shooter....only to be shot by cops when they arrive on the scene because the teacher has a gun in hand.....Granted there are students that make life miserable for teachers and students, but to engage and try to hit centermass of one of my students is a whole other thing.........This teacher will not go to school armed and ready to engage a shooter. Other veterans in my school think the same way as does one of the assistant principals who is high up in the State 4H shooting team program. He doesn't want guns in our school either....