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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:08 PM Feb 2018

NRA opposes new age limits on gun purchases

Source: MSN/The Hill

The National Rifle Association (NRA) said Wednesday it opposes any new legislation that would put age restrictions on firearm purchases.

"We need serious proposals to prevent violent criminals and the dangerously mentally ill from acquiring firearms," NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker said in a statement.

"Passing a law that makes it illegal for a 20-year-old to purchase a shotgun for hunting or adult single mother from purchasing the most effective self-defense rifle on the market punishes law-abiding citizens for the evil acts of criminals," she added.

Any law that requires an individual to be 21 or older to buy a firearm "effectively prohibits" adults aged 18-20 from buying a firearm, Baker said, "thus depriving them of their constitutional right to self-protection."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nra-opposes-new-age-limits-on-gun-purchases/ar-BBJr1g9?li=BBnbcA1

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NRA opposes new age limits on gun purchases (Original Post) TomCADem Feb 2018 OP
Of course they did... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #1
Color me the shocking-est color of shock. (n/t) forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #25
I don't think GP6971 Feb 2018 #2
Oh Jennifer, for fuck sake, get a life pangaia Feb 2018 #3
Isn't this the same argument the cigarette lobby gave: we're holding our ground ffr Feb 2018 #4
You know, It's time to reconsider the second amendment. sfwriter Feb 2018 #5
F--K them weissmam Feb 2018 #6
Did she forget the NRA opposes background checks too? bitterross Feb 2018 #7
How many 18 to 20 year olds need to own a gun? ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2018 #8
They support age limits on opinions for gun policy IronLionZion Feb 2018 #9
Zing!! MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #26
Gee, the NRA seems to be kind of irresponsible! dchill Feb 2018 #10
Let's live up to their rhetoric, repeal 2, and enforce sensible gun laws. Gore1FL Feb 2018 #11
Just between us I don't give a rat's ass about what they like or don't like ... flying_wahini Feb 2018 #12
I approve. Weed Man Feb 2018 #13
If we have a problem with the mentally ill acquiring firearms then why don't they support background njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #14
Fuck the nra Salviati Feb 2018 #15
The NRA thinks that 20 year olds are not responsible enough to drink, but they should own firearms? RainCaster Feb 2018 #16
When the NRA Supported Gun Control keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #17
Who gives a fuck what the NRA thinks or wants. Nitram Feb 2018 #18
"constitutional right to self-protection." dflprincess Feb 2018 #19
This is completely understandable on the basis of one simple fact: Still In Wisconsin Feb 2018 #20
fuck the NRA. barbtries Feb 2018 #21
FUCK the goddamned NRA and liberalhistorian Feb 2018 #22
Why do they always frame things so either/or. Its a both/and: deal with the mental illness AND get Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #23
What give the NRA their power? pazzyanne Feb 2018 #24
Soft Power is part of what does it rpannier Feb 2018 #28
Thanks for the answer. pazzyanne Feb 2018 #30
Lots of gunners support NRA white wing agenda, but are too cheap to pay dues. Hoyt Feb 2018 #29
other than in western movies lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #27
Anyone watch Lawrence O'Donnell tonight? Bayard Feb 2018 #31
Fuck the NRA. We need a new rifle association. A rational one. The RRA. truthisfreedom Feb 2018 #32
Do what we do here in Minnesota NickB79 Feb 2018 #33

GP6971

(31,168 posts)
2. I don't think
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:11 PM
Feb 2018

anyone of us here is surprised by this. They'll fight tooth and nail any legislation that regulates guns, weapons etc. The NRA is scum.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
4. Isn't this the same argument the cigarette lobby gave: we're holding our ground
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:16 PM
Feb 2018

See you in court. Fcuk those kids!

I have news for the conservative NRA. Your era has passed. It's time to move on and the #NeverAgain movement is going to see to that.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
5. You know, It's time to reconsider the second amendment.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:17 PM
Feb 2018

Time to clarify that error. The NRA has convinced me of that.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
7. Did she forget the NRA opposes background checks too?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:18 PM
Feb 2018

Probably she did not. She's just counting on no one noticing and the news cycle moving on.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
8. How many 18 to 20 year olds need to own a gun?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:19 PM
Feb 2018

When they are struggling to go to college, let alone find jobs that will afford them the basics? Guns are an expensive hobby that most teens and young adults cannot afford, unless daddy is rich.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
11. Let's live up to their rhetoric, repeal 2, and enforce sensible gun laws.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:44 PM
Feb 2018

If the gun lobby is going to be intransigent on any proposed safety solution because of the 2nd Amendment, they give us but one remedy to prevent future attacks.

 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
13. I approve.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:46 PM
Feb 2018

The age limit is 100 years old.

No person may ever have a gun again. Regulated militias, only. As in military. Not even the police - they may only use TASER or stun guns or even a baton.

Lesson has to be taught: Guns doesn't do shit.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
14. If we have a problem with the mentally ill acquiring firearms then why don't they support background
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:51 PM
Feb 2018

Checks

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
16. The NRA thinks that 20 year olds are not responsible enough to drink, but they should own firearms?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:58 PM
Feb 2018

WTF?

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
17. When the NRA Supported Gun Control
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:02 PM
Feb 2018

When the NRA Supported Gun Control

http://time.com/4431356/nra-gun-control-history/

To the gun industry, dead children are merely collateral damage/acceptable losses for gun industry profits and political donations.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
18. Who gives a fuck what the NRA thinks or wants.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:05 PM
Feb 2018

Their only motivation is to sustain their money pipeline to gun manufacturers.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
19. "constitutional right to self-protection."
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:07 PM
Feb 2018

Where is a right to self-protection mentioned? I must have skipped class the day that was discussed in my Con Law (undergraduate) class.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
20. This is completely understandable on the basis of one simple fact:
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:09 PM
Feb 2018

The NRA are nothing more and nothing less than the lobbying arm of the gun manufacturers. They are no different than the insurance lobby, the alcohol lobby, the restauranteurs lobby, etc. etc. etc. They exist in order to maximize the profits of their clients. An age restriction cuts into that. End of story.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
21. fuck the NRA.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:22 PM
Feb 2018

i flew the other day and noticed that one of the pilots had a big old "Lifelong NRA Member" sticker on his bag. it disgusted me. everything about this organization is disgusting. if it ever wasn't it most certainly is now.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
22. FUCK the goddamned NRA and
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:32 PM
Feb 2018

FUCK their goddamned supporters and bought-off Republican reps. Goddamned domestic terrorist organization is what they are, plain and simple.

The only good thing about how even more batshit crazy they seem to be getting (which is really saying a lot, considering) is that maybe more people will finally begin to see their true colors and deal with them accordingly.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
23. Why do they always frame things so either/or. Its a both/and: deal with the mental illness AND get
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:39 PM
Feb 2018

rid of -or put heavy restrictions on ownership of - the guns.

Ive had it - no reason ANYONE should have an assault rifle really - or anything designed to kill massive nos. of people.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
24. What give the NRA their power?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:51 PM
Feb 2018

Here are the statistics for NRA membership as of 2015:

"Per the Census, there are roughly 245 million adults aged 18 and over in the U.S. Multiplying the adult population by the ownership rate gives us between 73 million and 81 million adult gun owners in the U.S. And the 5 million NRA members represent about 6 or 7 percent of that total."

Forgive me, but that seems to be a very small minority in this discussion. 6% to 7% of the US population controls the gun violence issue. Doesn't make sense.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
28. Soft Power is part of what does it
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:23 AM
Feb 2018

The have their own TV Networks, Radio Network and at least 7 publications (American Hunter, NRA Family, etc). Like with the christian reich it gives their followers daily input from the nra and those people happily share it with any one
The money and stuff help, but their devoted and involved followers make the difference
Some gun supporters, like the christian reich, will vote on a single issue (guns) and they vote in every election.
Sadly, that's not true of all groups (I read somewhere that people who place the environment as the most important issue, do not vote in all elections. I've seen similar numbers for pro-choice as well.) The gun people vote

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
30. Thanks for the answer.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:35 AM
Feb 2018

I would like to say that this environmentalist has voted in every election since she was able to vote. However, I do have other issues as well that are important to me. Sometimes you forget that others do not do what you think they would based on your values. Voting is such an important privilege/ right. My grandmother was adamant about voting as she did not have the right to vote until she was in her twenties. She taught me the importance of exercising this precious right.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. Lots of gunners support NRA white wing agenda, but are too cheap to pay dues.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:31 AM
Feb 2018

They get all the lobbying benefits anyway, and pay back the big NRA beneficiaries, manufacturers and other gun profiteers, by buying their lethal products.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
31. Anyone watch Lawrence O'Donnell tonight?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:08 AM
Feb 2018

His opening 10 minutes was eloquent, intelligent, and thoughtful. Mostly about how totally clueless and careless Rump is about gun issues. Then he had a couple of teachers on, one from the school in Florida, the other from Columbine. She made one of the best arguments against teachers packing a handgun that I've heard yet---what happens if you have an angry 17 year old, that overpowers her, and takes her gun? You've just armed a kid that wouldn't have had a gun otherwise.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
33. Do what we do here in Minnesota
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:13 AM
Feb 2018

Anything with a pistol grip is treated like a pistol: you have to be 21 and get a permit to purchase license from your local police dept.

Thus, AR's are still prohibited for those under 21, but hunting shotguns and rifles are fine.

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