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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:02 PM Feb 2018

Mueller Gets Plea, No Cooperation, as Skadden Lawyer Admits Lies

Source: NPR

Alex van der Zwaan, a former associate at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, admitted in court in Washington that he misled investigators about the last time he talked with Gates, who was indicted in October with Manafort over their consulting work in Ukraine. Gates is reportedly considering cooperating with Mueller.

The guilty plea was the fourth secured by Mueller in his probe of Russian election meddling. But van der Zwaan was the first of those who didnt enter into a cooperation agreement with the special counsels office. His sentencing is scheduled for April 3, a quick turnaround that bolsters the notion that hes not cooperating in exchange for leniency. He faces as long as six months in jail under advisory guidelines.

The case against van der Zwaan may increase the pressure on Gates and Manafort. In pleading guilty to false statements, van der Zwaan admitted that he had conversations with Gates and someone in Ukraine that he later tried to hide from U.S. investigators. The case also shows that Mueller can secure a conviction against a non-U.S. citizen. Van der Zwaan, born in Brussels, is a Dutch citizen.

What Mueller may not gain, however, is a cooperator who can provide an inside account of events and documents that prosecutors are trying to unravel. The 33-year-old lawyer was a point person for Skadden in Ukraine, working on cases on behalf of wealthy Russian and Ukrainian clients.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-21/mueller-gets-plea-no-cooperation-as-skadden-lawyer-admits-lies



While he is not a cooperating witness, the law firm where he was formerly employed is cooperating.

Since his father-in-law is a founder of the Alfa Bank, van der Zwaan probably can just go work for him.
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Mueller Gets Plea, No Cooperation, as Skadden Lawyer Admits Lies (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2018 OP
broken link Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #1
Thanks! pnwmom Feb 2018 #2
should i delete that now? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #4
No problem! Just leave it. Thanks again! And yes, pnwmom Feb 2018 #9
welcome Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #10
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2018 #3
Jail him! mpcamb Feb 2018 #5
Please stop with the prison rape jokes jmowreader Feb 2018 #7
Cheap shot. Agree. mpcamb Feb 2018 #8
Screw him. Hopefully he'll get the maximum (whatever little that is) and have to deal... George II Feb 2018 #6
I would be perfectly happy... jmowreader Feb 2018 #11
He's a Dutch citizen, so once this is over he'll be deported, even WITH trump as president. George II Feb 2018 #14
If he cooperates, he's a dead man. Tatiana Feb 2018 #12
And if he doesn't, he goes to jail for 6 months pnwmom Feb 2018 #13

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
4. should i delete that now?
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:24 PM
Feb 2018

Or just leave it alone?


These latest news items from Mueller's team sure have made up for the long dry period!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
9. No problem! Just leave it. Thanks again! And yes,
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:07 PM
Feb 2018

these latest items are good -- but I'm still waiting to hear officially about Gates's plea deal.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
10. welcome
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:17 PM
Feb 2018

And thank you for posting this. Been like a firehose of news today, from my POV.

I'm looking for some lawyer's analysis of today's Mueller time. There's bound to be ramifications that I don't see in the indictment.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Screw him. Hopefully he'll get the maximum (whatever little that is) and have to deal...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:52 PM
Feb 2018

...with hardened criminals while in jail. I saw a video of him, he's a scrawny little creep, they're going to make his life miserable.

My guess is he weighed his options - go to jail for six months or a year, or cooperate and find himself accidentally falling out of a six-story building.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
11. I would be perfectly happy...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:30 PM
Feb 2018

with a year and a day, $500k fine, and revocation of his license to practice law.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
12. If he cooperates, he's a dead man.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:31 PM
Feb 2018

But, honestly, considering the company he kept/keeps... he's probably a dead man walking anyway.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. And if he doesn't, he goes to jail for 6 months
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:40 PM
Feb 2018

and then his billionaire father in law sets him up for life. I don't think they'll kill him, not if he shows his loyalty.

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