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demmiblue

(36,858 posts)
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:32 PM Feb 2018

Trump bragged about a General Motors plant relocation that he made up

Source: Think Progress

During a meeting about trade with lawmakers at the White House on Tuesday, President Trump took personal credit for General Motors’ decision relocate a plant from South Korea back to the United States.

“GM Korea company announced today that it will cease production and close its Gunsan plant in May 2018 and they’re gonna move back to Detroit,” Trump said. “You don’t hear these things except for the fact that Trump became president, believe me, you wouldn’t be hearing that… and you have many others companies, they all want to be where the action is.”

There’s just one problem — Trump’s relocation announcement was fake news. The president appears to have just made it up.

It’s true that GM is closing a plant in South Korea. On Monday, General Motors released a statement announcing that it is closing its plant in Gunsan as a “necessary but difficult first step in our efforts to restructure our operations in South Korea.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-general-motors-plant-detroit-ffcf239dca69/

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Trump bragged about a General Motors plant relocation that he made up (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2018 OP
As long as 30 percent of his ass kissers heard it Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2018 #1
Lying daily in order to make us desensitized. We will never be afraid to point out the lies, daily Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #4
I swear some people get all of their news from... MountCleaners Feb 2018 #30
olympic gold Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #2
Can you just imagine if ANY Democrat ever did this? Squinch Feb 2018 #3
First he gripes legit news orgs are making "fake news"... forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #5
WH Press should confront Sarah HUCKSTERby with this. nt oasis Feb 2018 #6
Why? BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #13
Trump "accomplishments" will be higlighted in 2018 GOP ads. oasis Feb 2018 #15
Dems are usually too "namby pamby" BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #16
I don't know which "namby pamby" Dems you are talking about. oasis Feb 2018 #17
Codswallop. Codeine Feb 2018 #23
Trump lies so often, most of them never get reported. procon Feb 2018 #7
gish gallop on steroids Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #11
As long as that sound bite hits the FoxNews bubble Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #8
Why does he refer to himself in the third person? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #9
Good question! red dog 1 Feb 2018 #18
No, Cold War Spook Feb 2018 #20
Maybe he's trying to distance himself from himself. Virtual Burlesque Feb 2018 #21
Call it syringis Feb 2018 #22
Because he knows at least some newsreaders/anchors will quote his tweet verbatim mr_lebowski Feb 2018 #28
That sounds about right. It would fit how he is able to manipulate the media so well. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #29
Seriously. He just stood there and made it up???? marble falls Feb 2018 #10
Video is at link. yup. riversedge Feb 2018 #25
That is why he said, world wide wally Feb 2018 #12
daewoo name plate not exactly a big seller over here dembotoz Feb 2018 #14
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Feb 2018 #19
I wish someone! at the meeting would have challenged him!! Just once! riversedge Feb 2018 #24
Making stuff up Progressive dog Feb 2018 #26
So....you guys don't think GM will back his play? PatrickforO Feb 2018 #27

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Lying daily in order to make us desensitized. We will never be afraid to point out the lies, daily
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:45 PM
Feb 2018

or not.

The action is in China and India these days, American purchasing will be overtaken soon in China and India not long after.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
30. I swear some people get all of their news from...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:57 PM
Feb 2018

...his Twitter feed. They really have a phobia about anything remotely "liberal" and automatically think it's a lie.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
2. olympic gold
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:41 PM
Feb 2018

How long before he takes credit for Olympic gold medals?

Also, is this 3rd person crap getting worse?

TrumPutin must go. Padded cell or just bars, but he's got to go.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
5. First he gripes legit news orgs are making "fake news"...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:54 PM
Feb 2018

...and now he's pissed that they can't read his mind to report on the fake news he makes up.

Lewis Carroll has been reincarnated and is writing this all, right?

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
13. Why?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:56 PM
Feb 2018

She lies as much as her Fuhrer. And the press follows HER rules like they did with Elaine Chao yesterday...."stay on message". The press should boycott all daily pressers since they just publish the W House lies. It is a waste of time.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
15. Trump "accomplishments" will be higlighted in 2018 GOP ads.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:17 PM
Feb 2018

Dems can counter GOP claims by rounding up snippets from press conferences and interviews.

Doing nothing gives the opposition a giant advantage.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
16. Dems are usually too "namby pamby"
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:24 PM
Feb 2018

to counter with anything. That is one of our problems. We let them kick sand in our faces year in and year out. I wish we would take off the gloves for once. Maybe then we would win more often.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
17. I don't know which "namby pamby" Dems you are talking about.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:34 PM
Feb 2018

Most of the Democrats I see in interviews have no trouble calling out GOP lies and setting the record straight.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. Codswallop.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:03 AM
Feb 2018

Every Democrat in the party calls this asshole out on his bullshit all the time.

I don’t understand why people insist on pushing these false narratives.

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. Trump lies so often, most of them never get reported.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 05:21 PM
Feb 2018

Even in a 24 hour news cycle, how do news show decide which of his lies is the most important and the public needs to be warned and informed?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
11. gish gallop on steroids
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:54 PM
Feb 2018

It's the TrumPutin version of the gish gallop:


The Gish Gallop (also known as proof by verbosity[1]) is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

Docreed2003

(16,861 posts)
8. As long as that sound bite hits the FoxNews bubble
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

It doesn’t matter that it’s a lie to Trump. He doesn’t speak to the media or to us, he’s speaking to his brainwashed base.

9. Why does he refer to himself in the third person?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

Seriously, is there some sort of psychological problem that makes him refer to himself by name rather than "I"?

syringis

(5,101 posts)
22. Call it
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:06 AM
Feb 2018

the "Roman Emperors syndrome"...

I never heard of such syndrome but Trumpig reacts in many ways just as Roman Emperors when the Empire was on decline.




 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. Because he knows at least some newsreaders/anchors will quote his tweet verbatim
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 04:46 AM
Feb 2018

He always does that when it'll sound good for him ... i.e. "The memo completely exonerates Trump" ... he wants that read just like that, so casual listeners think that's the newsreaders interpretation of reality, not Trump's dictation.

Once someone brought that up a few weeks ago it's become very obvious when he chooses to call himself 'Trump' ... I promise you that is why/the goal.

29. That sounds about right. It would fit how he is able to manipulate the media so well.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:36 PM
Feb 2018

Of course, he's still got that "believe me" tell for when he's just told a lie...

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
12. That is why he said,
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:55 PM
Feb 2018

"You don’t hear these things except for the fact that Trump became president, believe me, you wouldn’t be hearing that… and you have many others companies, they all want to be where the action is.”

First time he's been honest all year. You would NEVER hear that from anyone else.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
14. daewoo name plate not exactly a big seller over here
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:04 PM
Feb 2018

was recently looking to get a cheap used car
and you can get a daewoo for not much money....problem seems to be parts are an issue and the cars seem to need lots of parts.

off brands do not frighten me...i bought a mitsubishi that i really kinda like, but daewoo was way to iffy

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
24. I wish someone! at the meeting would have challenged him!! Just once!
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:10 AM
Feb 2018



...........But the statement doesn’t mention any corresponding plan to relocate operations to the United States. ThinkProgress reached out to General Motors for comment, and a company official said they have no knowledge of any plan to relocate production from South Korea to Michigan.

While fabricating a plant relocation is especially egregious, Trump’s “announcement” was far from the first time he’s tried to take credit for new jobs he actually had little or nothing to do with. At various points during his first year in office, Trump bragged about new jobs created by Toyota, Intel, Exxon, Charter Communications, Ford, SoftBank, Fiat-Chrysler, General Motors, Lockheed Martin, and Walmart that all were in the works before he was elected president.
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