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brooklynite

(94,587 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:44 PM Feb 2018

Trumps Longtime Lawyer Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket

Source: New York Times

Michael D. Cohen, President Trumps longtime personal lawyer, said on Tuesday that he paid $130,000 out of his own pocket to a pornographic-film actress who had once claimed to have had an affair with Mr. Trump.

In the most detailed explanation of the 2016 payment made to the actress, Stephanie Clifford, Mr. Cohen, who worked as a counsel to the Trump Organization for more than a decade, said he was not reimbursed for the payment.

Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly, Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.

He declined to answer several follow-up questions, including whether Mr. Trump had been aware that he made the payment, what the motivation was or whether he had made similar payments to other people over the years.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/us/politics/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-trump.html



When you get right down to it, is this really any different than giving a nice fruit basket at Christmas?
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Trumps Longtime Lawyer Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2018 OP
Rumor has it Cohn will be the next chief of staff. AJT Feb 2018 #1
Not after this. NT enough Feb 2018 #24
I would say especially after this.....he has shown the depth of his AJT Feb 2018 #25
Different guy. Gary Cohn is rumored to be replacing Kelly - this is Michael Cohen, Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #29
Thanks! AJT Feb 2018 #34
What does Gary Cohn have to do with this story? oberliner Feb 2018 #35
Can these people just stop lying. Iliyah Feb 2018 #2
Apparently not YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #19
Where can I get a lawyer like that? marylandblue Feb 2018 #3
So now we Know Trump fucked her RandySF Feb 2018 #4
Was that in doubt? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #8
ive nevrr seen any group of adults HopeAgain Feb 2018 #5
A lot of the people around Trump are morons Sam McGee Feb 2018 #23
Only mobsters can lie that much and live to be old world wide wally Feb 2018 #39
I wonder if he is willing swear to this under oath? cstanleytech Feb 2018 #6
like an oath means anything to these folks rurallib Feb 2018 #55
Lying to cover up a campaign finance violation. George II Feb 2018 #7
If it's not a campaign contribution, then it's a gift or a rebate/kickback. Julian Englis Feb 2018 #9
+1 eom Arazi Feb 2018 #47
Even though nothing happened. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #10
Ok. Who paid the gift tax? And was this filed as a campaign contribution? unblock Feb 2018 #11
Wouldn't a gift tax have to be paid for a sum that large? nt Gore1FL Feb 2018 #12
But I bet he billed trump for 260 hours of extra work. Ilsa Feb 2018 #13
In DC, more like 130 hours at $1,000 per hour. NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #65
Somebody reimbursed him, that's for sure missingm Feb 2018 #68
Rachel Maddow just reported this on her show. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #14
What a swell guy. missingm Feb 2018 #15
He may be the stupidest lawyer ever. bullimiami Feb 2018 #16
No. I Think Its Trump's Other Lawyer, Dowd... TomCADem Feb 2018 #30
They're all dumber than dirt. Dave Starsky Feb 2018 #61
I dont know why Im replying here, cuz I just got no response to this Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #17
They are all disgusting pigs Ohiogal Feb 2018 #18
Please dont insult barnyard animals like that YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #21
This guy is a tool with a fool for a client UpInArms Feb 2018 #20
Just asking . . . Sam McGee Feb 2018 #22
This would be an illegal campaign contribution by Cohen Gothmog Feb 2018 #26
I'm sure his right wing evangelical supporters are appalled.... dhill926 Feb 2018 #27
Maybe it came from the collection plates world wide wally Feb 2018 #43
ABC: Trump's lawyer says he wrote the president's tweet about Flynn's dismissal TomCADem Feb 2018 #28
I don't doubt that his lawyer drafted that statement. But.... machoneman Feb 2018 #49
From HIS RETAINER duh OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #31
Some comments on Kyle Griffins tweet about this: Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #32
And if you believe that....wanna buy a bridge? eom Maeve Feb 2018 #33
LIAR. iluvtennis Feb 2018 #36
Now I know what I can do the next time I have an extra $130,000 laying around... LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #37
On her silence you mean. And if her silence cost that price, gotta wonder the cost of FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #41
You can be sure he got a $130K benefit from Trump another way; maybe tRump paid bogus legal billing. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #38
Yeah right world wide wally Feb 2018 #40
Lying Comes So Easily For An Attorney, ... DoctorJoJo Feb 2018 #42
I want this guy for my lawyer gopiscrap Feb 2018 #44
Just think, if this is the news they want us to talk about, what story are they trying to hide? briv1016 Feb 2018 #45
Soooooo angrychair Feb 2018 #46
Yeah, right, we believe you, really, we believe you. Liar, liar, liar, pants on fire! NT SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #48
Dotards personal lying lawyer. Owl Feb 2018 #50
So is this extortion or bribery or both they are confessing? None of which is legal. bullimiami Feb 2018 #51
"Yeah, that's it. My own pocket." raging moderate Feb 2018 #52
So this makes it okay? dreamland Feb 2018 #53
So why the shell company in DE? lanlady Feb 2018 #54
Damn. I duped you. underpants Feb 2018 #56
Hey, maybe this is the guy who can come up with the way that Mexico MGKrebs Feb 2018 #57
Well, isn't that nice. Paladin Feb 2018 #58
Hell whats a bribe here or there .........................its still a bribe turbinetree Feb 2018 #59
$130,000 straight from Russia to Cohen then to the TRAMP!!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #60
How else should it have been paid? treestar Feb 2018 #62
Oh wait, the lawyer paid? treestar Feb 2018 #66
if he truly did pay her, my next question is bluestarone Feb 2018 #63
Time for a watchdog group to move to have him disbarred. nt NCjack Feb 2018 #64
Isn't this the sort of thing... C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #67
That would seem to be an in kind contribution the campaign never reported. n/t Akoto Feb 2018 #69

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
29. Different guy. Gary Cohn is rumored to be replacing Kelly - this is Michael Cohen,
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:30 PM
Feb 2018

LOSER45’s longtime mob fixer/lawyer. One shady muthafukkah, too.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. ive nevrr seen any group of adults
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:49 PM
Feb 2018

less likely to tell the truth. And th absurdty of the lies is incredible.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
9. If it's not a campaign contribution, then it's a gift or a rebate/kickback.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:50 PM
Feb 2018

If it's reate/kickback, then Cohn needed to send a 1099 to Trump and Trump needed a 1099 and Trump needed to report it as income (or reduce his legal expenses deducted). If it's a gift, Cohn needed to file a gift tax return. Also, I would think gifts of that size would violate ethical canons for lawyers.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,472 posts)
10. Even though nothing happened.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:52 PM
Feb 2018

I feel so sorry for Barron. That poor kid. I hope that at the end of the school year, Melania pulls him out of St. Andrew's (or whatever it is) and takes him back to New York to get him away from his father.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
13. But I bet he billed trump for 260 hours of extra work.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:53 PM
Feb 2018

At $500 per hour, isn't that about right?

Figures someone else would clean up donald's messes.

 

missingm

(56 posts)
68. Somebody reimbursed him, that's for sure
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 08:08 PM
Feb 2018

If appears that he is only denying getting paid by the Trump Organization or Trump Campaign. That leaves a whole ton of people who could have supplied the money.

Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly, Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
14. Rachel Maddow just reported this on her show.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:54 PM
Feb 2018

It doesn't say whether or not the fucking moron knew about it. "Hush Money 101" is the name of the course in the Oval Office catalogue of required classes.

 

missingm

(56 posts)
15. What a swell guy.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:55 PM
Feb 2018

Funny how Cohen comes off as a heartless pitbull who would sell his own mother for a buck.

I guess he is really just a softee inside.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
30. No. I Think Its Trump's Other Lawyer, Dowd...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:31 PM
Feb 2018

...who claimed that he wrote Trump's tweet admitting that he knew that Flynn lied to the FBI.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
17. I dont know why Im replying here, cuz I just got no response to this
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:01 PM
Feb 2018

Well, except for the usual WTF?!?



Okay Mr. Mob fixer-guy, whatever you say

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
21. Please dont insult barnyard animals like that
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:19 PM
Feb 2018

An animal is what it was born to be.

These “people” choose to behave like this if their own free will.

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
22. Just asking . . .
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:20 PM
Feb 2018

Do you suppose Ms. Cohen knew of this withdrawal from the family's accounts?

If not . . . well . . . it could get ugly around the Cohen household.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
28. ABC: Trump's lawyer says he wrote the president's tweet about Flynn's dismissal
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:29 PM
Feb 2018

This is just ridiculous...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story?id=51541650

President Donald Trump's personal lawyer, John Dowd, says he drafted the president's Saturday morning tweet that stated he fired former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn for lying not only to Vice President Mike Pence but also to the FBI.

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI," Trump tweeted at 9:14 a.m. on Saturday. "He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"

Dowd told ABC News he wrote those words. A second source who corroborated that Dowd had written the tweet called it "sloppy."

It's unclear who actually sent out the tweet, but Dowd said he gave the drafted message to the president's social media director Dan Scavino.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
49. I don't doubt that his lawyer drafted that statement. But....
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:52 AM
Feb 2018

I'm sure trumpenfueher edited it to his liking before it went out. Trump doesn't ever like to be told what to do or say as many in the WH have leaked to reporters. That's a good thing btw as he's always undercutting good advice even from his lawyers.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
31. From HIS RETAINER duh
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:38 PM
Feb 2018

Why do they keep perpetuating this story......Oh diversion from ___________[fill in the blank]

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
41. On her silence you mean. And if her silence cost that price, gotta wonder the cost of
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:09 AM
Feb 2018

well..you know...the main event(s)

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
42. Lying Comes So Easily For An Attorney, ...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:10 AM
Feb 2018

... especially one corrupt enough to service The Orange Buffoon, the vilest human on the planet.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
45. Just think, if this is the news they want us to talk about, what story are they trying to hide?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 02:23 AM
Feb 2018

This wasn't a gaffe. This was a prepared statement from a lawyer.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
46. Soooooo
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:17 AM
Feb 2018

Trump did have sex with her and the campaign did pay for it. That’s an in-kind contribution if I ever heard one.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
54. So why the shell company in DE?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 09:03 AM
Feb 2018

When this story first broke, it was reported that Stormy got paid through a shell company. Why, if Cohen paid her out of the milk of human kindness, did he take that route?

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
57. Hey, maybe this is the guy who can come up with the way that Mexico
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 09:24 AM
Feb 2018

is going to pay for the wall.
He could say something like " Well, they already paid for it. They sent me a check and I have a special account just for that." Or something just as plausible.

Paladin

(28,262 posts)
58. Well, isn't that nice.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 09:58 AM
Feb 2018

I know that I always appreciate it when my attorney foots the bill for the consequences of my sport fucking.

I sincerely hope that trump's reverse Midas touch is in place, and that Cohen loses his law license over this.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
59. Hell whats a bribe here or there .........................its still a bribe
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 10:06 AM
Feb 2018



November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

bluestarone

(16,961 posts)
60. $130,000 straight from Russia to Cohen then to the TRAMP!!!!
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 10:59 AM
Feb 2018

with full knowledge of tRUMPY!!! BUT DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE, WITH THESE LYING FUCKERS?? Just hope Mueller can UNRAVEL this shit.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
62. How else should it have been paid?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 11:18 AM
Feb 2018

Makes no sense. Who should reimburse the Idiot for his settling of such a case?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
66. Oh wait, the lawyer paid?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 11:48 AM
Feb 2018
And Donald did not reimburse him? OMG. What an idiot. Has he met his client?

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
67. Isn't this the sort of thing...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:22 PM
Feb 2018

that gets lawyers disbarred? Any lawyers here appalled by this devilishness?

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