UPDATED - Pelosi holds House floor for six hours demanding immigration vote

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill



BY CRISTINA MARCOS - 02/07/18 04:09 PM EST

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) staged the closest thing to a filibuster in the lower chamber on Wednesday as she spoke for more than six consecutive hours demanding a commitment from Republicans to vote on an immigration reform bill.

As Senate leaders unveiled a bipartisan budget deal across the Capitol, Pelosi held the House floor warning that she wouldn’t vote for it without a firmer commitment from Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) that the House will consider legislation to protect young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

Pelosi, 77, stood in four-inch stilettos the whole time as she read aloud stories of individual immigrants, known as “Dreamers,” and argued the merits of allowing them to stay in the country.

It was unclear when Pelosi, who began speaking just after 10 a.m., might finish her remarks. Asked if there was any sense when she might wrap up, an aide replied: “Who knows.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/372796-pelosi-holds-house-floor-in-filibuster-style-speech-demanding

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UPDATE:

Dem leaders pile on, press Ryan for DACA commitment

BY MIKE LILLIS - 02/07/18 03:55 PM EST

House Democratic leaders on Wednesday seemed ready to join Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in withholding their support for a Senate budget deal without a firm pledge from Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to consider legislation protecting "Dreamers."

“What we’re looking for is a commitment,” Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.), chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, said during a press briefing in the Capitol.

With a commanding majority, House Republicans can easily pass the budget package on their own “if they have a bill that’s reflective of their priorities,” Crowley said.

“If they’re asking me to vote for it, it needs to be reflective of my priorities,” he added. “And as of yet — I haven’t seen the full deal — but they have yet to prove to me that they have all the ideals that I’m concerned about in this deal.”

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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372794-dem-leaders-pile-on-seek-firm-commitment-from-ryan-on-daca

[irisblue]

1. #GoNancyGo. 👠

Stick that in the dotards...plans

[underpants]

2. They had to mention the stilletos?

Good for Nancy

[JusticeForAll]

3. I should think so...

Imagine the pain she is in standing for six hours in them. Normally fashion is not a worthy detail but in this case, it is very noteworthy.

[Plucketeer]

20. She couldn't afford some flats

or moccasins?

[Staph]

4. It reminds me of something I read about Ginger Rogers...

she did every dance step that Fred Astaire did, backwards and in heels!

[Silver Gaia]

29. I get it. Makes me like her even more (if possible). Ha!

She is "standing tall" for us. Some women always wear flats (my daughter), and some women prefer to wear heels, unless it's a casual occasion. Nancy is a heels woman - I've never seen her without them when she's working (a generational thing?). I get that. Me, too. But 4-inch stilettos? Damn. That's serious. Gets my respect. Go Nancy! ETA: I note that it was the female reporter who pointed this out. She gets it, too. 😉

[Yonnie3]

5. This makes me think of Boener.

I can envision him raising another glass of Scotch this evening, grateful to be gone.

[efhmc]

7. Makes me laugh to think how happy he was

to leave that place and his nutty buddies.

[AllaN01Bear]

6. bravo

[snacker]

8. Thank you, Nancy!

[BigmanPigman]

9. When will men stop being surprised at the overall

strength and ability to withstand duress and endurance for prolonged periods of time that the average woman possesses? What do they think women do all their lives (and I am not just referring to child birth either). DUH?!

[The Mouth]

13. Hard not to be surprised

at some of the things women put up with. I only wore high heels back in the disco days and those were big clunky things not tiny thin heels and my feet *HURT*, the idea someone standing there for 6 HOURS in something like that is not anything a typical guy would really contemplate unbidden. More power to her.

[ehrnst]

15. And they're suspect for not giving a shit about how "likeable" they are

on the part of confused and furious young white straight men on both the right and left....

[betsuni]

73. +1

[Gothmog]

10. Nancy Pelosi has set a record

Link to tweet

[George II]

19. Women are setting an example for a bunch of young men to follow.

[Motley13]

11. 7 and counting

[ehrnst]

12. The Revolution/Resistance will be made possible by females who ran out of fux years ago.

Go, Nancy!!!!

[George II]

18. +1,000,000 BTW, she's still up there, fresh as a daisy, now more than 7-1/2 hours later...

Who says women are "weak" or she's just too damned old? We could use a few, or a lot, more "weak old women" like her!!

[ehrnst]

26. Yeah, we need "new blood"

to "replace" the "old broads" who get the job done.

Apparently...

[rickford66]

14. I'm getting the anti-Nancy emails already.

Google " Miss Lube Rack 1955 ". I thought Nancy was a real Babe before I received the wing nut stuff. Now I know I was right. She's doing something right to be hated so much.

[tblue37]

36. Pic:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=0zrrtcsx&id=237DD0B0D2EE25B1D83FBCAA9C0ABDAFE66DB888&thid=OIP.0zrrtcsxyFig1vCMiebbOwHaI5&q=Nancy+Pelosi+Miss+Lube+Rack&simid=608041343994497087&selectedIndex=7&ajaxhist=0

[ehrnst]

37. Yep, already seeing the kneejerk bashing of her here on DU...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1982487

[Hermit-The-Prog]

58. measure of Nancy Pelosi effectiveness

The level of right-wing nut job hate is a measure of Pelosi's effectiveness.

New RWNJ monster: Adamhillbamalosihontas.

May Demoncrats across the land rise high to haunt the nightmares of deplorables and would-be dictators.

[Skittles]

16. looks like she got the message about her "sternly-worded" letters

[mcar]

23. Ugh

[Skittles]

47. I did not care for the letters either

[mcar]

51. I salute our strong, determined Democratic leader!

Nancy is a badass!

[Skittles]

54. I hope she keeps it up

[lapucelle]

59. Pelosi has been a strong, determined Democratic leader for many years.

Why would she give it up now? She's never been a comfortable back-bencher.

[Skittles]

62. we will have to agree to disagree

I was never inspired by her "impeachment is off the table" talk

[lapucelle]

65. "She will force a synergistic union of the caucus".

The Conyers resolution to form an exploratory committee on impeachment expired with the 109th Congress. Neither Conyers nor any of the 38 co-sponsors reintroduced the resolution in the 110th Congress, and even some of the most strident supporters of impeachment took a step back once they were actually charged with the responsibility and confronted with the realities of what it would entail, what it might engender, and how it might have weakened our system of government.

Pelosi gave an ill-advised bandwagon an exit ramp, and they gratefully took it. In exchange, she faced the critics and took the heat.

That's inspirational leadership.

http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2006/11/08/cq_1916.html

https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-resolution/635

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-01-27/news/IMPEACH27_1_keith-ellison-impeachment-today-in-washington

[Skittles]

66. but repukes were able to impeach for a blow job

alrighty then

[lapucelle]

68. That's what makes the Republicans "them" and the Democrats "us".

That impeachment began the slippery slope that eventually brought Republicans Trump as the embodiment of their "respect" for our constitution and values. I don't want that for my party.

[Skittles]

69. they get results?

and we let people who allowed the biggest terrorist attack in American history, started a war based on lies, endorsed torture, drowned a city, crashed the economy - SLIDE

done here

[lapucelle]

70. I don't think it's as simple as that.

I'm sure that there are those who think articles of impeachment could have been drafted against FDR for some of the same or similar "reasons"...or against President Obama, for that matter.

I'm grateful for the serious people in government.

[ehrnst]

86. "Let?"

Can you tell us what they could have done, but did not?

[Johndoe2150]

77. Hmm

I’m fairly certain the impeachment was for perjury pertaining to the issue.

It’s funny how getting a blowjob and whatever else happened from an intern while your working isn’t a bad thing, but saying to someone grab her by the pussy is absolutely evil.

[mr_lebowski]

78. Noone said it 'wasn't a bad thing', but do you understand how important the concept of CONSENT is?

I mean ... it's pretty much the difference between 'breaking a workplace rule' ... and f***ing RAPE.

And yes, the 'impeachment' was for the 'perjury', but why in the hell was the guy even forced to TESTIFY about what had happened in the FIRST PLACE? What was the justification for having POTUS on the stand ... when consensual BJ's are not 'illegal' to begin with?

And when 19 women come forward with allegations against the man that he DID, in fact, force himself upon them, in manner MUCH AKIN to what he personally bragged that he enjoyed doing ... the p-grabbing remark becomes SIGNIFICANTLY more serious ... than misleading prosecutors about a BJ under Oath ... in a scenario where he never should've been under that sort of scrutiny to begin with.

And I say 'misleading' because the term 'sexual relations' ... is actually a legally defined term of art ... and it's defined ... as penis/vaginal intercourse. So, despite your layman's understanding that says to you that a BJ is sexual relations. Guess what? Legally ... ITS NOT 'sexual relations'. That's why perjury didn't actually stick. Big Dog was too smart for y'all.

[Johndoe2150]

89. ...

Last time I checked sexual relations in a relatively public place is a crime. Clinton was accused of rape multiple times as well. But fortunately we live in a society where just because your accused of something dosnt nessecarily mean your guilty of it. In public opinion not so much. People are people; some are terrible.

I understand that there is a specific meaning of words especially with lawyers. I’m fairly certain it wasn’t the definition of the words sexual relations and the word is. Considering is as opposed to was. Either way he probably shouldn’t have done it. But what’s done is done.

[mr_lebowski]

90. Uh...maybe if there's someone else there to see it, otherwise 'relatively public' is meaningless ...

I.E. last you checked ... you were wrong.

Let me reiterate ... consenting relations (in ANY PLACE) is NOTHING compared to FORCING YOURSELF ON SOMEONE. They're completely different things. 99.999999% of remotely decent human beings believe RAPE is far worse crime than 'consensual sex in a relatively public place ... where nobody but the participants actually were at the time'.

Clinton never had 19 women publicly come forward and assert he forced himself on them, in a manner just like he'd publicly described was basically his 'right to do cause he's famous', did he now?

But if you have proof of these public 'rape' claims about Clinton, feel free to share them ... you saying you know of testimonies from the Women? I'm keen to know what you believe is out there in that regard? Not from Fox News or Limbaugh "sources", I mean actual sources.

[ehrnst]

87. No, actually, it wasn't because of a blow job

That was not the charge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton

You're welcome.

[betsuni]

72. Thank you!

[ehrnst]

85. She wasn't the only one.

2007

WASHINGTON -- If campaign talk means anything, there would be at least one sure vote on the House Judiciary Committee to impeach President Bush if the matter came up.

It would come from freshman Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison, the Minneapolis lawyer and former state legislator who was named to the House panel that has jurisdiction over impeachment. At an October rally, Ellison said Bush has been "running amok."


"There is one way that you can truly hold this president accountable, and it's impeachment." But Ellison seems in no hurry to push the matter.

"My opinions really have not changed over time, but the circumstances that I'm in have," he said. He said he was "a step before impeachment" and that his emphasis as he learned the ropes in Congress was on a broader range of human and civil-rights issues.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-01-27/news/IMPEACH27_1_keith-ellison-impeachment-today-in-washington

You have made it clear that you will never "be inspired" by Pelosi, no matter how many of your "criticisms" are corrected by fact checking. You should just own that.

What is it about her that rubs you the wrong way?

[lapucelle]

63. Where some see a sternly worded letter,

others see a tactical move in the form of a press release that generated media coverage of the Democratic position and criticism of Ryan.

When I listen to people at work, I'm always amused by the neophytes who second guess experts on strategy.

Well played, Leader Pelosi.

[ehrnst]

27. ....

[Me.]

17. Go Nancy

Nobody like you.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

21. dirty donnie wanted Pelosi to stand

Has the Russian turd in the Whitehouse complimented Pelosi for standing patriotically?

[mcar]

22. Nancy Pelosi will not sit down

Can you believe some in the media are trying to replace her?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210201846

[George II]

24. Yeah, she's "too old" and I'm sure, their unspoken sentiment is that she's just a woman!

[mcar]

48. Funny how the women are deemed "too old"

but not the men.

[Cha]

25. Nancy is brilliant!

[mountain grammy]

28. Go Nancy!

One proud Democrat here!

[Me.]

30. So I'm Guessing That Today

Crowley doesn't think she's a liability but is hedging his bets on voting w/Cons with the old 'haven't seen the full deal yet'

[George II]

31. Nancy just completed her comment to a STANDING OVATION (see that Donnie boy?)....

...and now Maxine has taken up the cause. I don't think it will be very long, however.

[Gothmog]

32. Nancy Pelosi is told that she broke the record

Link to tweet

[Jose Garcia]

33. Sorry, but Ms. Pelosi is a hypocrite on this

She was Speaker of the House for four years (2007-2011) and she allowed zero votes on legislation to help Dreamers.

[ehrnst]

35. Does this action by her offend you that you need to bash her so?

And can you provide a links to all the relevant legislation that she "prohibited" voting on?

While you're at it, are their two Nancy Pelosis? Because this Speaker Nancy Pelosi did the opposite of what you accuse Nancy Pelosi of....

https://www.politico.com/story/2010/11/pelosi-wants-dream-act-vote-044959

https://www.alipac.us/f12/speaker-nancy-pelosi-statement-support-dream-act-67651/

Care to explain? Or perhaps you want to correct yourself. Pretty quickly.

[Jose Garcia]

42. Here you go

https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/house-bill/1275

Bill sent to committee, no vote ever taken. Pelosi never took to the House floor demanding a vote.

[ehrnst]

44. How was that Pelosi's doing?

And how do you explain this? Her not so evil twin? Disputes your claim about her, doesn't it?

https://www.politico.com/story/2010/11/pelosi-wants-dream-act-vote-044959

Not seeing her evil fingerprints here...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/05/can_congress_finally_pass_the_dream_act.html

What is it about her that rubs you the wrong way?

[lapucelle]

49. That bill stalled in committee in the House, and

the cloture vote on the Senate version failed to pass.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/house-bill/1275/all-info

https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/senate-bill/2205/all-info

[ehrnst]

56. You mean that she wasn't singlehandedly trying to deport the dreamers?????

Get OUT.

[lapucelle]

53. "Pelosi never took to the House floor demanding a vote".

That's not how it works.

http://clerk.house.gov/legislative/house-rules.pdf

[ehrnst]

55. Don't bring facts into this!!!

[lapucelle]

88. ;;;

[Hortensis]

64. Actually, there were something like 22 "Dream Act" bills.

Most of them were stuck in committee. The Initial DREAM Act was S.1291 in (2001), which failed to pass the Senate, and the one people talk about as the DREAM act is s. 2611 in 2006 -- which Nancy voted for. Only that 1 (that she voted for) of 22 passed.

17 subsequent bills, most apparently attempted amendments involving technical issues, were introduced while Nancy was speaker 2007-2011 and another 5 after she became minority leader. They're listed below.

Specifically, Jose Garcia, please explain how any of this shows she is a "hypocrite" as she makes history on the house floor today, reading out the stories of Dreamers for 8 solid hours. Right now this attack is unsupported.

There have been at least 21 subsequent bills attempting to pass a form of relief for DREAMers since its initial introduction in 2001:

2003 – DREAM Act (S.1545), stuck in committee review
2003 – DREAM Act of 2005 (S.2075), stuck in committee review
2005 – American Dream Act (H.R.5131), stuck in committee review
2006 – Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 (S.2611) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2006, passed Senate
2007 – American Dream Act (H.R.1275), stuck in committee review
2007 – Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy (STRIVE) Act of 2007 (H.R.1645) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2007, stuck in committee review
2007 – DREAM Act of 2007 (S.774), stuck in committee review
2007 – DREAM Act of 2007 (S.2205), failed to pass Senate
2007 – To Provide for Comprehensive Immigration Reform and For Other Purposes(S.1639) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2007, failed to pass Senate
2009 – DREAM Act of 2009 (S.729), stuck in committee review
2009 – American Dream Act (H.R.1751), stuck in committee review
2010 – DREAM Act of 2010 (S.3827), failed to pass Senate
2010 – CIR Act of 2010 (S.3932) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2010, stuck in committee review
2010 – DREAM Act of 2010 (S.3962), failed to pass Senate
2010 – DREAM Act of 2010 (S.3992), failed to pass Senate
2010 – DREAM Act of 2010 (H.R.6497), stuck in committee review
2011 – DREAM Act of 2011 (H.R.1842), stuck in committee review
2011 – DREAM Act of 2011 (S.952), stuck in committee review
2011 – Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2011 (S.1258) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2011, stuck in committee review
2013 – Border, Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act (S.744) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2013, passed Senate, stuck in House
2013 – Border, Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act (H.R.15) incorporated provisions of the DREAM Act of 2013, stuck in committee review

https://www.lawlogix.com/what-is-the-dream-act-and-who-are-dreamers/

[ehrnst]

79. Again with the facts....

There's an older woman that's accomplishing something, and she's irritating some men....

She must be criticized!

[Hortensis]

80. :) Going on 78 years old, 8 hours on 4" heels?

Waiting for the accusations that she's a hypocrite AND failed to dance backwards.

[ehrnst]

81. Also, what does she spend to get her hair done? Why is no one talking about THAT?

Because if she was really progressive, hair styling wouldn't be so important to her. Or 4" heels.

But if she isn't camera ready, she's a "hag," and it proves she needs to step aside for "new (male) blood," instead of accepting her peers' selection to be their leader over and over over again.

[Hortensis]

83. We do hear a lot of that last here. I sympathize

with young people who have no problem with women in politics and who just identify with younger politicians and want to see more of them. Perfectly understandable, and once I was one of them and to a reasonable degree still am, as is Nancy.

But then there are the others.

Returning to nice things, for fun I went looking for a picture of the heels Nancy wore yesterday and didn't find one. But I did find these first two of her on Wickifeet! Who knew there was such a thing.





Below, from Politico, is of Nancy's "lucky purple pumps" in 2012, lucky because she wore them in 2010 when Democrats, and only Democrats, passed the ACA.

[BoneyardDem]

75. So dig up misleading shit, while she is making a record breaking stand?

[ehrnst]

82. (crickets).....

[Hermit-The-Prog]

39. pix or it didn't happen

Prove it or shove it.

[ehrnst]

40. Crickets..... (nt)

[lpbk2713]

41. Assuming you are correct for the sake of argument ...

Are you saying Pelosi should not speak on their behalf now?

[George II]

43. DACA began in 2012. How many bills were introduced to help Dreamers from 2007-2011? And...

...what was the political climate from 2007-2011? It's not merely a matter of "allowing" votes.

[lapucelle]

45. Speaker Pelosi was an adept parlementarian.

She never brought a bill to the floor that she didn't have the votes to win. That's what makes her so valuable to us and so intimidating to the GOP.

Do you have any links to any immigration bills that Pelosi tabled during her tenure? It's generally wiser policy go to the Congressional Record to get all the facts before labeling a strong Democratic leader who did something remarkable this very day a "hypocrite".

[ehrnst]

46. Perhaps your "sorry" needs to be for posting this unfounded trashing of Pelosi, who is an effective

and dedicated progressive leader.

If you don't like her, just own it. There is no call for you to prop up personal distaste with imagined "hypocrisy" or wrongdoing, especially once you have been corrected.

She did something heroic. If that conflicts with your vision of her, take it elsewhere.

[Codeine]

67. Well, you didnt exactly come out of THAT

one looking very bright, now didja?

[JHan]

71. Please educate yourself on how bills get passed and or how they reach the damn floor.

[betsuni]

76. I want to make banana bread but forgot to buy bananas yesterday: why did Nancy Pelosi allow this?

THANKS, NANCY!

[Gothmog]

34. This is amazing

Link to tweet

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. barely mentioned on broadcasts

Pelosi was barely mentioned on tonight's ABC, CBS and NBC broadcast evening news.

ETA:
On the other hand, they showed clips of Sarah the Huckster's "responses" to reporters.

[mcar]

50. Shameful

CNN gave it a scant minute.

[George II]

60. CNN and MSNBC covered it all day. In fact one of them (CNN I believe?) had a PIP....

....of her speaking even while they reported on other stories.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

61. good for them

Wish the broadcast stations would postpone a commercial or dispense with celebrity gossip pieces for the sake of historical events, at least.

There are millions who receive their news via broadcast only.

[Hortensis]

84. Postpone a commercial?? Evening newscasts are delivery systems

for commercials, profitmaking centers. Might as well call for telephone lines to postpone carrying signals.

As you say. The degradation of the evening "news" broadcasts to more than 100 million viewers is a very severe national problem.

[More_Cowbell]

52. WaPo's version of the 4-inch-heels remark

"Shortly after 6 p.m., Pelosi, 77, finished her remarks that had been delivered entirely standing, forbidden from sitting down or taking a restroom break, all while standing in what aides said were four-inch heels."

Can you imagine Trump being able to do that?

[brer cat]

57. Brava, Nancy!

K&R

[betsuni]

74. The answer to "Dems have no leadership/aren't doing anything" whining.

Thanks, Nancy.