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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:43 AM Feb 2018

British Hacker Won't Be Extradited to the US Because American Prisons Are 'Medieval'

Source: Gizmodo

Lauri Love, a 32-year-old British computer hacker wanted by the FBI, will not be extradited to the United States. The ruling came down today after Love’s attorneys argued that he suffered from depression and was at risk of dying by suicide if he were placed in solitary confinement in the US, a disciplinary tactic seen by most of the developed world as torture.

Love, who holds dual citizenship in the UK and Finland but resides in Britain, was arrested in 2013 for allegedly hacking into sensitive computer systems in the US, including those of the FBI, NASA, and the US Army. Love faced as much as a 99-year sentence in prison if he were sent to the US for trial. Under British law, he now faces something closer to a maximum of 12 years.

During a hearing in November, lawyers for Love cited a study about the unusually high risk of suicide at New York’s Metropolitan Correction Center in Brooklyn and have called the conditions in US prisons “unconscionable” and “medieval.” As The Guardian reports, Love has Asperger’s syndrome along with severe depression, two conditions which both came under consideration during the extradition hearings.

“The way that mental health is dealt with in America is not in any way therapeutic,” Love told the BBC back in September of 2016.

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British Hacker Won't Be Extradited to the US Because American Prisons Are 'Medieval' (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2018 OP
I actually agree. Our prisons are a disgrace. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #1
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2018 #2
Our prisons are about getting even, not a bit about justice. Our prisons are a disgrace. marble falls Feb 2018 #3
I think you hit the nail on the head. Our "justice" system is NOT justice bitterross Feb 2018 #11
our prisons are not correction facilities AlexSFCA Feb 2018 #4
The American prison system is a disgrace, mountain grammy Feb 2018 #5
Our prisons don't seem to deter crime or rehabilitate prisoners IronLionZion Feb 2018 #6
Much of our prison system is privatized. Cyrano Feb 2018 #7
Profits Over People Has Turned Our Prison System Back Toward the Dark Ages dlk Feb 2018 #8
What Irony infullview Feb 2018 #9
+1 geardaddy Feb 2018 #10
Well, that's embarrassing. TomSlick Feb 2018 #12
There is a bit of irony to that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 #13
Sounds like Love thinks the U.S. is l ike a $hithole or something? Tatiana Feb 2018 #14

Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
1. I actually agree. Our prisons are a disgrace.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:47 AM
Feb 2018

I am horrified at the violence...we have prisoners literally being denied water until they die. I wouldn't send a human to a US prison. In fact, I told the judge when I was called for jury duty,That I wouldn't send a rabid dog to an American prison. He at first seemed to think this was just my way of avoiding jury duty, but it is not. I firmly believe this.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
11. I think you hit the nail on the head. Our "justice" system is NOT justice
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 11:28 AM
Feb 2018

When China has a better rehabilitation program than the USA we pretty much suck.

You key statement is that our system is about vengeance and punishment, not justice or rehabilitation is so correct. We couldn't design a worse system of dealing with people who commit crimes if we tried. Our system not only prefers punishment over rehabilitation, its very nature ensures long-term criminality and stigmatization of people. Practically guaranteeing repeat offenses as we push people out of society rather than trying to re-integrate them.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
4. our prisons are not correction facilities
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:22 AM
Feb 2018

they have no vested interested in making criminals law abiding people one day.

mountain grammy

(26,630 posts)
5. The American prison system is a disgrace,
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:22 AM
Feb 2018

followed by the disgracful justice system. Fox news hero David Clarke ran one of the worst torture institutions in Milwaukee.

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
6. Our prisons don't seem to deter crime or rehabilitate prisoners
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:24 AM
Feb 2018

and many states make it very difficult for people after they've served their time by blocking them out of jobs and voting rights.

Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
7. Much of our prison system is privatized.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:29 AM
Feb 2018

For-profit prisons have no incentive to feed prisoners well, or treat them as anything other than objects with which to grow the bottom line. For different reasons, government run prisons aren't much better. Calling prisons "correctional institutions" is a grotesque joke. And it's a safe-haven for sadists like ex-sheriff Joe Arpio to indulge his cruelness.

dlk

(11,572 posts)
8. Profits Over People Has Turned Our Prison System Back Toward the Dark Ages
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:47 AM
Feb 2018

Despite the fact that most prisoners return to society, rehabilitation has become a pipe dream. The conservative approach, with emphasis on harsh punishment and profits, has turned us back toward the Dark Ages.

infullview

(981 posts)
9. What Irony
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:47 AM
Feb 2018

That so many people came to this country to escape the prison system in England only to have our prison system so roundly criticized by the very same. It seems we are sorely behind the rest of civilization when it comes to our medical and penal systems.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,071 posts)
13. There is a bit of irony to that
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 10:27 PM
Feb 2018

The ban on "Unusual and cruel punishment" in the US Constitution stems from the fact that "drawing and quartering" was still a legal penalty in England at the time of the American Revolution.

Sad to see that we've fallen behind.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
14. Sounds like Love thinks the U.S. is l ike a $hithole or something?
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 12:05 AM
Feb 2018

Is this what #winning looks like? Someone ask the MAGA cretins.

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