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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:09 PM Feb 2018

Paul Ryan Brags About Giving Public School Employee $1.50

Source: Mother Jones



BEN DREYFUSSFEB. 3, 2018 2:07 PM

How in the world did Paul Ryan think this was something he should tweet?



$1.50 a week will indeed cover the basic $60 membership to Costco, but it wouldn’t cover the gold membership!

The GOP is bragging about giving public school employees $78 a year, meanwhile, according to the Tax Policy Center, the new tax changes will hand the richest 1 percent an extra $51,000 a year.

And that’s just now. As my colleague Edwin Rios noted in December, “over time, that disparity gets even worse.”

Read more: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/02/paul-ryan-brags-about-giving-public-school-employee-1-50/

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Paul Ryan Brags About Giving Public School Employee $1.50 (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Disgusting little Fucker JI7 Feb 2018 #1
Either she's being sarcastic or is busterbrown Feb 2018 #6
Ditto. iluvtennis Feb 2018 #26
Let her Eat Cake! chuckstevens Feb 2018 #2
She may not have meant it as Ryan read it. rickford66 Feb 2018 #3
Isn't @SpeakerRyan his official account? Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #4
and USA Today? Skittles Feb 2018 #16
Well, we know fact checking is in short supply in many ways these days Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #21
No -Here is his personal account BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #23
He has a personal account too and that is where it was tweeted and then deleted. nt BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #22
Is this why Republicans are orgasmic about their Tax Reform? djacq Feb 2018 #5
Brother can you spare a dime? bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #7
I couldn't find this on his twitter feed. Is this fake? n/t rainin Feb 2018 #8
I doubt we'd be very good at #FakeNews bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #10
It's not on his @speakerryan account Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #11
he has deleted but you can still find it Skittles Feb 2018 #13
Republicans don't get sarcasm. Baitball Blogger Feb 2018 #9
Apparently that's from a UNION negotiation agreement. Not from the tax law. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #12
Ryan is referring to a secretary's pay and not a teacher's pay. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #17
My husband is a retired teacher Ohiogal Feb 2018 #28
So was still union? Unions get raises by contract negotiations and terms of agreement. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #36
Yes, still union (or as the GOP spell it...unioM) as in BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #39
So it had nothing to do with the tax cut bill. Ryan's just posting ALL raises he hears about... Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #40
Not only will HE get a tax break but I just read BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author .99center Feb 2018 #20
I don't see the tweet on twitter, any more. Maybe he deleted when he realized Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #14
Wisconsin IDIOT Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #15
Don't worry, this is only temporary FakeNoose Feb 2018 #18
Seriously??? llmart Feb 2018 #19
I heard Ryan deleted that tweet DFW Feb 2018 #24
He's stupid enough not realize she was being sarcastic. marble falls Feb 2018 #25
Ryan is and always will be a complete jagoff. Smug punk... Guilded Lilly Feb 2018 #27
Karma's gonna hit Ryan ... LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #29
In his defense Proud liberal 80 Feb 2018 #30
The vile little coward deleted it. Glad it was captured for posterity. catbyte Feb 2018 #31
They'll cut funding for education programs and scholarships by so much more IronLionZion Feb 2018 #32
did I just imagine progressive tax law Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #33
Meanwhile, for the people Ryan really represents ... muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #34
And when their Health Care, Housing and Higher Education costs go up astronomically? harun Feb 2018 #35
$72 per Year erpowers Feb 2018 #37
Is it crumbs yet? NickB79 Feb 2018 #38
Link to BBC on deletion nitpicker Feb 2018 #42

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
3. She may not have meant it as Ryan read it.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:20 PM
Feb 2018

Remember "W" congratulating a woman who had to hold three jobs to make ends meet ?

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
4. Isn't @SpeakerRyan his official account?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:20 PM
Feb 2018

Sounds like someone squatted the name, got the checkmark. There's something about the framing of many of those tweets and some of the visuals used that doesn't make it seem like his real account.

It also has 11,000 tweets less than his speaker account.

I get the sense that Mother Jones and others reporting on this are going to come out looking bad because of this.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
21. Well, we know fact checking is in short supply in many ways these days
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:23 PM
Feb 2018

It's not easy to get duped.

Most of these guys don't run dual accounts. When Ryan ended up as speaker, his existing account got renamed to SpeakerRyan.

bucolic_frolic

(43,189 posts)
7. Brother can you spare a dime?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:25 PM
Feb 2018

Paul Ryan is a regular Mother Theresa. It will be a travesty of justice if he doesn't get 30 years.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
11. It's not on his @speakerryan account
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:43 PM
Feb 2018

And that's the one that's actually quite active - and older than this one by about three years.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. Apparently that's from a UNION negotiation agreement. Not from the tax law.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:43 PM
Feb 2018

If I understand the attached article correctly.

http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/school-district-of-lancaster-teachers-board-reach-early-bird-/article_cd682cc4-0170-11e8-bd79-b78e0aee4de6.html

It seems Lancaster area is having trouble attracting and keeping teachers. So the Lancaster Education Association got an agreement early, and it included a small raise and not raising their insurance co-pays.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
17. Ryan is referring to a secretary's pay and not a teacher's pay.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:55 PM
Feb 2018

As a former teacher in CA the support staff has a different union and pay scale than the teacher's do. Most school districts do.

The teachers in my district went without an increase in pay or COLA for five years and our union had to still fight to keep teachers from being laid off. The support staff was cut in half, teachers had to perform their duties too, they were pink slipped every year and then rescinded. No pay increase meant that teachers who were retiring would have their pensions cut drastically since the amount is based on the salary of the last 5 years they were working. I was the union rep for a short time. It was a nightmare.

Ohiogal

(32,006 posts)
28. My husband is a retired teacher
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:49 PM
Feb 2018

The type of bullshit you describe sounds very familiar.

If any profession needs a union, it's teachers.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. So was still union? Unions get raises by contract negotiations and terms of agreement.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:17 PM
Feb 2018

Having nothing to do with taxes. If anything, school budgets might have to be cut to pay for the tax cut bill. Even though they are state funded, states get money from the fed for a lot of things, which affects the state budgets.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
39. Yes, still union (or as the GOP spell it...unioM) as in
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:13 PM
Feb 2018

The State of the UnioM Address. We negotiated with the city since our city union (SDTA) was affiliated with the (CTA) state then the (NEA) national union. The city union is very weak and it was always one or the other...health insur/benefits, pay cuts, or keeping your job with twice as much work and no raise and a cut in benefits.
It never had anything to do with federal tax dollars. CA was 49th, now it ranks 46th or 47th as far as how much the state pays per student compared to the other states. Teachers and support staff are not paid well. People think CA is the forefront and an educational leader. It was that way 20 or 25 years ago but Prop 13 killed funds for education and it has gone downhill ever since. The Charter Schools are really killing our public education here. Schwarzenegger was a lousy Gov and left the state financially damaged and it has taken Gov Brown and a largely Dem state govt to get the economy going again.

In the 2000s schools were hit really hard and haven't recovered much. That is due to the overall economy. However, once they take pay and benefits away you never get them back, even if the economy gets better. The staff is still only half staffed in the schools.

The $1.50 doesn't make any sense to me. Pay increases don't come that quickly from the Fed Govt, in that way or in an amount like Ryan says it does. It doesn't work that way. Even the timing in the calendar year seems odd to me. But I only know from my own experiences in my city and state.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
40. So it had nothing to do with the tax cut bill. Ryan's just posting ALL raises he hears about...
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:02 AM
Feb 2018

and saying they are because of the tax cut bill.

I wonder if he'll post the savings HE will get from it.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
41. Not only will HE get a tax break but I just read
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:20 AM
Feb 2018

that the Kochs gave him $500,000. Not a bad little "gift".

Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #12)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. I don't see the tweet on twitter, any more. Maybe he deleted when he realized
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:48 PM
Feb 2018

it's from a union negotiation and not the tax law.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
18. Don't worry, this is only temporary
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:56 PM
Feb 2018

As soon as Lyin' Ryan figures out there's no more money left in the Treasury because it was handed out to the one-percenters - this is going to be cancelled anyway. There will be no raises or promotions, and everyone's taxes will go up by 10%. Oh and next year they're cancelling Social Security and Medicare.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
19. Seriously???
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:57 PM
Feb 2018

He's bragging about that??? Are you fucking kidding me???

Oh well. It might cover her Costco membership but she might not be able to buy a freakin' thing in the store.

I just don't even know what to say any more. I sure hope she was being sarcastic.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
27. Ryan is and always will be a complete jagoff. Smug punk...
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 05:43 PM
Feb 2018

Honestly, the day his goddamn ass is booted out of Washington cannot come soon enough. Hopefully, the boot will leave Mueller ‘s imprint on his butt for the rest of his life.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
30. In his defense
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

The secretary really was excited about it, I read the article....I bet she is a Trump supporter and will find any reason to support him.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
33. did I just imagine progressive tax law
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 06:54 PM
Feb 2018

Once upon a time, didn't we have a progressive income tax code? Was that pre-Rotten Ronnie or did I dream it?

We haven't eliminated loopholes -- whose purpose I thought was to discourage hoarding and encourage re-investment -- but we seem to have eliminated all pretense at fair taxes.

harun

(11,348 posts)
35. And when their Health Care, Housing and Higher Education costs go up astronomically?
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 07:59 PM
Feb 2018

Who they going to blame them? Still keep blaming Obama and Hillary?

They may never figure out how bad they are being robbed.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
37. $72 per Year
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:59 PM
Feb 2018

According to my calculations that works out to about $72 a year. I guess anything helps, but what can one really do with an extra $72 per year.

If you need an extra $72 per year to be able to afford a Costco membership you should not be shopping at Costco. You are far better off just shopping at a regular grocery store, or Walmart. Instead of paying $60 for a warehouse membership just use the full $72 to buy groceries from a grocery store. After paying the membership fee she will only have $12 dollars to spend at Costco. There is not much one can buy from Costco on $12.

One could likely buy some Tyson Chicken Breast patties for about $10-$12 a pack. A small pack of Costco made cookies costs about $5, or $6. So, she could buy one to two packs of the cookies. There are a few types of candy she can buy that cost less than $12, but she will only be able to afford to buy one pack. Candy is not the healthiest way to feed adults, or children. Other than a few small snacks, and certain types of powdered drinks (how do you feed a family on powdered Gatorade, Country Time Lemonade, or powered Kool Aid?) she would be able to buy a magazine, or two. That is just a waste of money.

I realize that since she has a job she would have more than just the $12 remaining from the $72 to spend at Costco. However, it would still be better for her to shop at a regular grocery store. She seems to have limited resources; therefore, she is wasting $60 on a membership that could be used to buy food. Costco membership are only of value if you discretionary cash. If you are saying an extra $1.50 per week will cover the cost of your membership I do not think you have enough discretionary income to justify getting a Costco membership.

At least at a grocery store she would be able to spend the $60 filling her refrigerator and pantry with food. $60 has the potential to go a long way at a grocery store.

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