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Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:15 AM Aug 2012

Prime minister says India will launch an exploratory space mission to Mars in 2013

Source: Associated Press

Prime minister says India will launch an exploratory space mission to Mars in 2013
By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, August 15, 2:59 AM

NEW DELHI — Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says Indian science and technology will take a giant leap forward under a plan to send a space mission to Mars next year.

Singh says his Cabinet has approved a mission that will collect important scientific information about the red planet.

Singh announced the unmanned Mars mission during a speech Wednesday to mark the 65th anniversary of India’s independence from British rule.

Scientists say the spacecraft is expected to take nearly 11 months to get close to Mars after which it will be placed in orbit around the planet.


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/prime-minister-says-india-will-launch-an-exploratory-space-mission-to-mars-in-2013/2012/08/15/22329de4-e6af-11e1-9739-eef99c5fb285_story.html

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Prime minister says India will launch an exploratory space mission to Mars in 2013 (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2012 OP
Spam deleted by tjwmason (MIR Team) dealrepairs Aug 2012 #1
Everybody jump on the bandwagon, baby! nt MrScorpio Aug 2012 #2
I wish them luck. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #3
Agreed. VWolf Aug 2012 #8
Unless I missed it, India still has hundreds of DavidL Aug 2012 #4
How many were living in poverty in the US in the 60s? CBGLuthier Aug 2012 #6
Is this the same country Missycim Aug 2012 #7
Yes the same country.... indio55555 Aug 2012 #10
Hell to the No Missycim Aug 2012 #11
India Has Massive Poverty and Famine Yavin4 Aug 2012 #9
Meanwhile back at reality ranch... Hubert Flottz Aug 2012 #5
What a waste of money for someone's ego. former9thward Aug 2012 #12
I agree, although never been there. DavidL Aug 2012 #13
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime Vehl Aug 2012 #14

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. I wish them luck.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:42 AM
Aug 2012

Mars is hard, and the USA's track record for exploring that planet in the past 15 years is something all of us should be very, very proud of. A series of major technological and engineering accomplishments.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
8. Agreed.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:14 AM
Aug 2012

The Martian atmosphere is a tricky one. Just thick enough to cause havoc, but not thick enough to provide sufficient lift and/or drag for a nice soft landing. Hence the 7 minutes of terror.

It would be a tough landing if Mars were next door, let alone 350 million miles away!

Yeah, I'm proud.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
4. Unless I missed it, India still has hundreds of
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:58 AM
Aug 2012

millions of people living in poverty. Yes, they have a growing middle class, largely made up of people doing jobs that used to be in the USA. Remember, Governor RawMoney of Massachusetts outsourced a telephone call-in center to India.

I wish the worldwide scientific community the best, but I think India perhaps should have other priorities other than Mars.

 

Missycim

(950 posts)
7. Is this the same country
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:47 AM
Aug 2012

that had over half a billion people in the dark? Multiple times?


Or that sizable amount of their countrymen dont have toilets in their homes?

These are facts here not insults.

indio55555

(162 posts)
10. Yes the same country....
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:36 AM
Aug 2012

Are you just jealous that an Indian landed the mars rover Curiosity, or that 36% of NASA’s staff is Indian?

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
9. India Has Massive Poverty and Famine
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:30 AM
Aug 2012

Yes, there's a burgeoning middle class, but it's still an impoverished nation.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
12. What a waste of money for someone's ego.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:04 AM
Aug 2012

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India is a train wreck of a country ( I have been there) and they want to waste billions of dollars on Mars? Try fixing things on earth first.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
13. I agree, although never been there.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
Aug 2012

From what I understand, there's abject wretched poverty by the tens of millions.

Vehl

(1,915 posts)
14. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:16 PM
Aug 2012

The Indian Space Research organization has a yearly budget under 2billion. To claim that such advances in space technology are for ego is incredibly short sighted. A lot of the "common tech" we use nowadays are side effects from the space programs...everything from miniaturized electronics, to materials sciences.

Given the relatively small budget of the ISRO, they have accomplished some pretty amazing stuff.

1 India has the world's largest constellation of earth observation satellites

Indian Remote Sensing satellites (IRS) are a series of earth observation satellites, built, launched and maintained by ISRO. The IRS series provides remote sensing services to the country. The Indian Remote Sensing Satellite system is the largest constellation of remote sensing satellites for civilian use in operation today in the world. All the satellites are placed in polar sun-synchronous orbit and provide data in a variety of spatial, spectral and temporal resolutions to enable several programs to be undertaken relevant to national development. The initial versions are composed of the 1 (A,B,C,D) nomenclature. The later versions are named based on their area of application including OceanSat, CartoSat, ResourceSat.


These satellites are not there for "fun' or for boosting someone's ego...they provide invaluable and real-time information which allows Indian farmers to plan better crops and crop rotations, they also let Indian fishermen go to regions of sea with the most fish..and last but not the least, they also save Billions of $ worth of potential damage by forewarning the subcontinental(and also neighboring regions) of impending natural disasters like hurricanes. This alone repaid the cost of the space program many times over.


2 It was an Indian Lunar exploration mission which found water on the Moon


Chandrayaan-1 is India's first mission to the moon. The unmanned lunar exploration mission includes a lunar orbiter and an impactor called the Moon Impact Probe. India launched the spacecraft using a modified version of the PSLV is C11 on 22 October 2008 from Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Sriharikota. The vehicle was successfully inserted into lunar orbit on 8 November 2008. It carries high-resolution remote sensing equipment for visible, near infrared, and soft and hard X-ray frequencies. Over its two-year operational period, it is intended to survey the lunar surface to produce a complete map of its chemical characteristics and 3-dimensional topography. The polar regions are of special interest, as they might contain ice. The lunar mission carries five ISRO payloads and six payloads from other international space agencies including NASA, ESA, and the Bulgarian Aerospace Agency, which were carried free of cost. The Chandrayaan-1 became the first lunar mission to discover existence of water on the moon.[24]



3 Indian satellites help connect otherwise inaccessible remote villages . They not only provide telecommunication but also advanced services like Medicine. Some Afghan hospitals also benefit from this.

4 The ISRO's commercial ventures enable it to earn a good amount of money by launching the satellites of various nations. It also holds the world record for successfully launching 10 satellites from one launcher. Their customers include nations like Israel, America, France and many others.


Apart from these tangible benefits, ISRO also serves as a role model for aspiring scientists in the subcontinent. ISRO scientists are highly respected, and one of them was even the president of India. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Poverty cannot be eradicated by doling out microscopic amounts of money saved by cancelling the ISRO program.

ISRO Budget = 1.5-2 B
Indian population 1 B

In other words, even if India were to entirely scrap the ISRO, they will save 2$ per person for a year!. This is absolutely ridiculous and would make no diff whatsoever.

India realized that the best way to reduce poverty & overpopulation is by educating people, NOT by enacting stupid laws like one child policy. The results are already apparent. The fertility rate for the four southern Indian states(the heart of the Indian IT trade and the most educated states) is now at population replacement levels! (2 kids per couple). I would also point at the affordable tablet initiative already underway which would benefit hundreds of millions of students.The states with lesser literary rates have more poor people/fertility rate. Cancelling its space program could be akin to shooting its own foot, for India.

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