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Judi Lynn

(160,631 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:00 AM Dec 2017

BETSY DEVOS JUST MADE IT HARDER FOR RIPPED-OFF STUDENTS TO GET FULL LOAN FORGIVENESS

Source: Newsweek

BETSY DEVOS JUST MADE IT HARDER FOR RIPPED-OFF STUDENTS TO GET FULL LOAN FORGIVENESS
BY CELESTE KATZ ON 12/20/17 AT 10:26 PM

Students ripped off by for-profit college loan programs may face a painful lesson in the workings of government thanks to the federal Education Department’s decision to change the rules about forgiving their debt.

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos announced Wednesday that the department is altering the Obama Administration’s promise of completely erasing loans taken out by students defrauded by the Corinthian Colleges chain.

DeVos said under the new standards, forgiveness will now be tied to students’ income as a way of measuring whether they did enjoy some benefit from their educations—even if they were deceived about the worth of their diplomas.

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/betsy-devos-student-loan-relief-754745?piano_t=1

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BETSY DEVOS JUST MADE IT HARDER FOR RIPPED-OFF STUDENTS TO GET FULL LOAN FORGIVENESS (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2017 OP
As I tell students and others who don't vote not fooled Dec 2017 #1
How fucking quaint, this zealot made this decision : turbinetree Dec 2017 #2
FUCK THEM, AND FUCK HER ... mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #3
Yepper, spot on turbinetree Dec 2017 #4
I edited my post after TT replied ... mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #5
She sleeps fine because she has more money than she knows what to do with Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #6
figuring how to scam people after all its in the Amway brochure package plan turbinetree Dec 2017 #8
FUCK THIS GOD DAMN PIECE OF SHIT ADMINISTRATION!!! Initech Dec 2017 #7
Elections have consequences leftofcool Dec 2017 #9
OK, I'm Missing Something RobinA Dec 2017 #10
If one of the victims is earning half what their peers do, they only get 50% relief muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #11

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
1. As I tell students and others who don't vote
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:08 AM
Dec 2017

it takes a LOT less time to educate yourself on the issues and go vote than to live under onerous GOPee policies, e.g. paying off mountains of student debt.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
2. How fucking quaint, this zealot made this decision :
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:18 AM
Dec 2017

"DeVos said under the new standards, forgiveness will now be tied to students’ income as a way of measuring whether they did enjoy some benefit from their educations—even if they were deceived about the worth of their diplomas."

Hey, Devos exactly how did your family make its money? Why don't you tell everyone your family business operation!

That income will be the motivating factor, income, not the fraud concocted by the chain of a for profit ripping a human being off, but by fucking income, that have been maligned ----------

Hey Devos, now that you have given the green light that anyone and everyone can now fuck people, and that this chain was criminal enterprise investigated by the Obama administration to have committed fraud.

Why or how in the fuck do you go through life with no moral assets and have no fucking conscience to what you do?

How do you fucking sleep at night letting fucking thieves deceive and steal people out of there hard earned money------------I forgot you and your bunch just got a huge tax break to fuck people by republican criminals in Congress, that have no conscience........


FUCK YOU and the fucking horse , or broom you ride on

November 2018 cannot get here fast enough





 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. FUCK THEM, AND FUCK HER ...
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:09 AM
Dec 2017


Who the FUCK gave this C-word (and it IS DESERVED, no sexism intended) the POWER to make this decision?

WTF kind of BULLSHIT IS THIS?!?

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
8. figuring how to scam people after all its in the Amway brochure package plan
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:41 AM
Dec 2017

I really dislike her-----------shes a witch on a broom

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
10. OK, I'm Missing Something
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 08:54 AM
Dec 2017

If they are benefiting from the college degree, how are they ripped off? And why should they get loan forgiveness? I'm all for helping people out if they got a faulty product, but if their individual product turns out just fine, what's the problem?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,368 posts)
11. If one of the victims is earning half what their peers do, they only get 50% relief
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:14 AM
Dec 2017

eg someone earning $25,000 while their peers earn $50,000. Now, since average weekly earnings with a high school diploma are $678, and a bachelor's degree $1,137, we can see that a bachelor's degree does not double someone's earnings anyway; but you can't say "this course was 50% successful - it got them earning half what they should be". Earning half would be an indication the course achieved absolutely nothing at all. (And that's for batchelor degrees - some courses were associate degrees, for which the high school diploma earnings are closer to the expected earnings, so that even less relief would be given).

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