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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:13 PM Dec 2017

Graham: A high possibility Trump will attack North Korea if it conducts another missile test

Source: The Hill

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) in a new interview predicted there is a high possibility that President Trump could attack North Korea if the state conducts another nuclear missile test.

“I would say there’s a three in 10 chance we use the military option,” Graham told The Atlantic published Thursday.

He said there is a "70 percent" chance the U.S. uses the military option if North Korea conducts an additional nuclear bomb test.

“I don’t know how to say it any more direct: If nothing changes, Trump’s gonna have to use the military option, because time is running out,” said Graham, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The Republican lawmaker, who has become Hawkish when it comes to North Korea, wagered that it would be an "all-out war against the regime" if the president does take such measures.

“There is no surgical strike option. Their [nuclear-weapons] program is too redundant, it’s too hardened, and you gotta assume the worst, not the best. So if you ever use the military option, it’s not to just neutralize their nuclear facilities—you gotta be willing to take the regime completely down,” he told the publication.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/364940-graham-a-high-possibility-trump-will-attack-north-korea-if-it-conducts#.WjLMffoKXrs.twitter

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Graham: A high possibility Trump will attack North Korea if it conducts another missile test (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Dec 2017 OP
What?!? onecaliberal Dec 2017 #1
they really need a distraction from what Mueller is discovering Skittles Dec 2017 #7
Sure seems like it... some scary shit! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #31
If we attack sakabatou Dec 2017 #2
No where to run to baby... no where to hide... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #32
where is graham with Russia????? bluestarone Dec 2017 #3
Its China and Russia. liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #36
is it just me, or do dear ole lindsey is actually enjoying the prospect of war? niyad Dec 2017 #4
exactly how I read it..... dhill926 Dec 2017 #23
I don't know whether to take this with a shaker of salt or Javaman Dec 2017 #5
Don't do that to your pants, or buy brown pants Perseus Dec 2017 #16
Tell that to the North Koreans. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #28
They are not a threat to China liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #37
Hmmm awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #6
I read somewhere that is he is trying/hoping for a higher post Perseus Dec 2017 #13
Chief of staff maybe SummerSnow Dec 2017 #24
Someone needs to ask the North Korean leadership about South Korean lives. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #29
Time is running out for who? Fuck these people. BeyondGeography Dec 2017 #8
My WONDERFUL neighbors are from South Korea. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #9
In the famous words of Forrest Gump's mom Perseus Dec 2017 #10
China is not going to sit idly by if we strike first. redstateblues Dec 2017 #11
Do you have a link to support the statment that Xi has made that known? Sophia4 Dec 2017 #30
It was an editotial in a state owned newspaper. Bradical79 Dec 2017 #35
Does a reporter ever ask these clowns bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #12
IOC needs to cancel the Winter Olympics maryellen99 Dec 2017 #14
I dont like the specter of cancelling the games. roamer65 Dec 2017 #25
25M people in NK, 75M in south, most very close. Hortensis Dec 2017 #15
When has America ever not engaged in destruction far away from its own shores without remorse? Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #17
Never. 150 nations are anxious and upset because we've Hortensis Dec 2017 #18
I'll bet gibraltar72 Dec 2017 #19
We see how Dotard's threats have worked so far. Expect another launch. Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #20
As long as Eric and Donnie Jr are in the first wave, sure. edbermac Dec 2017 #21
Graham needs to STFU. marble falls Dec 2017 #22
Big time! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #33
Graham has been saber rattling in regards to North Korea for a while bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #26
Graham acts absolutely giddy about the possibility. woodsprite Dec 2017 #27
And go down as one of the greatest mass murderers in history. paleotn Dec 2017 #34

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
3. where is graham with Russia?????
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:25 PM
Dec 2017

and who is supplying NK? (could it be Russia) Hmm? What a war monger dumb ass

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
16. Don't do that to your pants, or buy brown pants
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:45 PM
Dec 2017

A ship was sailing when one of the crew members spotted two pirate ships, he run to the captain to warn him, the captain went down to his cabin and came out wearing a red shirt.
They fought and won.

Two days later another crew member spotted five pirate ships, he run to the captain to warn him, the captain went down to his cabin and, again, came out wearing a red shirt.
They fought and won.

The crew was wondering why the red shirt, so they asked the captain who responded "I wear a red shirt because if during battle I get injured and start to bleed, you men will not notice and will continue to fight"
The crew's admiration for the captain was so high, what a brave man.

One week later another crew member spotted fifteen pirate ships, he run to the captain to warn him, the captain went down to his cabin and came out wearing brown pants.
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Have confidence that the military will not allow this idiot trump to do something stupid, they know it is a ticket with no return for the World.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
28. Tell that to the North Koreans.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

They are not just a threat to the US. They are a threat to China (especially) and to Russia (less so but still . . . .).

North Korea is led by a crazy man. So are we. Bad combination, but still, why is North Korea spending so much on developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems when its people are ill and hungry -- and living in a world in which the condition of the North Korean people is completely unnecessary.

You cannot treat insane people as though they are normal.

liberal_patriot_md

(194 posts)
37. They are not a threat to China
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 09:22 PM
Dec 2017

China supports NK. And so does Russia.

NK could threaten the US, at least they have the capability.

Kim Jong Un is not crazy. He is interested in preserving his regime. He knows the best way to do that is obtain nuclear weapons that put him on a level playing field with other world powers. It’s the only way he will have leverage in the future.

By the way - we spend hundreds of billions on the military and we have plenty of poor and hungry here. Is that crazy too?

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
6. Hmmm
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

Wish somebody asked him about South Korean lives if a military option is pursued.

Weird how Graham has become one of dump's best cheerleaders.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. I read somewhere that is he is trying/hoping for a higher post
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:38 PM
Dec 2017

in the cabinet, so now he keeps his nose in the man-child's butt.

People with no principles will do anything...

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
29. Someone needs to ask the North Korean leadership about South Korean lives.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:28 PM
Dec 2017

The answer would be interesting.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
9. My WONDERFUL neighbors are from South Korea.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:29 PM
Dec 2017

What will happen to their families in South Korea?????

North Korea is a problem. I thought Trump said that China was going to help take care of it. What is really going on?

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. In the famous words of Forrest Gump's mom
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:36 PM
Dec 2017

"Stupid is as stupid does."

Both Graham and Trump fit the mold.

The lack of understanding about "consequences" is a dangerous thing, Trump and the GOP lack that sense.

Don't they understand that a Nuclear war is going to wipe them out of existence, and their families? Do they really think they will be safe? If the USA has some hiding place for the president and his family, does Graham really think he will be invited? I fail to understand how the think, how far they think, do they ever go through "possible scenarios", what could happen? what could be the consequences? It is really not that hard.

I believe the military understands that is a no won situation, and that unprovoked they will not follow the orders, and maybe even put him in jail. I am an eternal optimist, I understand that, but to think different sounds too depressing. To think that a person who understand consequences, and the military is trained to think that way, would allow the man-child to do something stupid? I can't think of that scenario.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
30. Do you have a link to support the statment that Xi has made that known?
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:40 PM
Dec 2017

I do.

SEOUL -- South Korean President Moon Jae-in and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping said Thursday that the North Korean nuclear crisis would be resolved through talks and negotiation rather than war.

. . .

Their agreements echoed those of U.S. State Secretary Rex Tillerson who said Tuesday that the administration was willing to talk with North Korea without preconditions, offering an olive branch to the isolated nation.

The Blue House said that Moon and Xi also agreed to open a emergency phone line between them, in part to mend the relationship soured by the deployment of a U.S. missile defense system in Seongju in March. The two countries have been at odds over the installation of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, as China has opposed it vehemently, saying that the system's radars could be used to monitor its military bases and other security facilities.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Moon-Xi-say-negotiation-not-war-to-end-North-Korean-crisis

The Korean people deserve peace as do we, but North Korea's obsession with military weapons in such a small, relatively poor country is absurd.

Americans have no reason to fight with North Korea other than that the North Korean leadership is a threat to us. It's obsession with developing weapons that could deliver nuclear weapons to our country is insane. It needs to end its nuclear program. It can only bring misery to the Korean people on both ends of their peninsula.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
35. It was an editotial in a state owned newspaper.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:47 PM
Dec 2017

Said the would not intervene if NK attacked us, but would stop us should we try to attack pre-emptively and overthrow the regime.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
12. Does a reporter ever ask these clowns
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

What will China and Russia do?

At times the press has lost the ability to probe for secondary consequences of actions. And in the case of mutual assured destruction , secondary consequences are kinda the point.

And of course this gives you an idea at how bad net neutrality and tax bill are performing because distractions.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
25. I dont like the specter of cancelling the games.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:20 PM
Dec 2017

They were cancelled in 1916, 1940 and 1944 because of war.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. 25M people in NK, 75M in south, most very close.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:44 PM
Dec 2017

We're going to murder millions of people?

And where's China while we're committing mass murder in its front yard, or while we're "just" planning to? China can probably take down various and/or all sections of our power grid or other, selected critical systems, and I'd be surprised if ICBMs still in development were the only weapons Kim has either.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Never. 150 nations are anxious and upset because we've
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

abandoned our peacekeeper role that has, in fact, kept large wars from happening for over 75 years. Many nations have been able to develop under the mantle of peace secured for them by our commitment to treaties.

Not to say we haven't warred and murdered for profit, and some nations and regions we haven't felt we needed to protect for our own interests have not been protected. But, nevertheless, nearly 200 nations are in far greater danger today because the U.S. of today is not the U.S. nearly 7 billion people grew up with.

Under THIS leadership is by far the closest we've ever come to the nation you so foolishly imagine.

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
19. I'll bet
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:56 PM
Dec 2017

he had a chubby and was breathing hard thinking about war. I'm told that's what he wants for Christmas.

edbermac

(15,941 posts)
21. As long as Eric and Donnie Jr are in the first wave, sure.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

They’re good with guns...as long as their targets are unarmed.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
34. And go down as one of the greatest mass murderers in history.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:37 PM
Dec 2017

Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of Koreans will die in the process.

Calm down Scarlet or you'll get the vapors.

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