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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 11:46 PM Dec 2017

Speaker at Moore event says he accidentally went with Moore to a brothel with child prostitutes

Source: Associated Press


"There were certainly pretty girls. And they were girls. They were young. Some were very young."
JUDD LEGUM
DEC 11, 2017, 10:07 PM

Roy Moore, who is running for U.S. Senate in Tuesday’s special election, is facing multiple allegations of child sex abuse. He has largely avoided the campaign trail since these allegations first surfaced.

But on Monday night, the last day before the election, Moore held a rally. It got off to an interesting start.

One of the introductory speakers was Bill Sailing, who said he served with Moore in Vietnam. Sailing told the story of a night he spent with Moore and a third man, who he did not name. According to Sailing it was the third man’s last night in Vietnam and the man invited them to a “private club” in the city to celebrate with “a couple of beers.”

Moore and Sailing agreed. According to Sailing, they didn’t expect there was anything untoward going on at the “private club” because “there were legitimate private clubs” in Vietnam. The third man drove them to the club in his Jeep.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/speaker-at-moore-event-says-he-accidentally-went-with-moore-to-a-brothel-with-child-prostitutes-65c9819f8a1e/

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Speaker at Moore event says he accidentally went with Moore to a brothel with child prostitutes (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2017 OP
Play to your strengths? brooklynite Dec 2017 #1
Moore sure as hell knew where everything was dalton99a Dec 2017 #2
If you didnt you put your life on the line, He damn well knew............ Old Vet Dec 2017 #35
I believe it. Yes I do. Even though it is oddly convenient. Shrike47 Dec 2017 #3
Odd indeed Achilleaze Dec 2017 #32
sounds like something could be coming out gopiscrap Dec 2017 #4
oh yea bluestarone Dec 2017 #5
We needed this a week ago. MontanaMama Dec 2017 #6
Look how many young girls he didn't molest. rickford66 Dec 2017 #7
Well, shit ... ya know, he wasn't going to PAY THEM ... right? mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #23
plus pervert moore probably likes his little girls white Locrian Dec 2017 #29
Bullshit story to get out in front of some (more) unspeakably bad shit. VOX Dec 2017 #8
One thing about this Moore stuff is that there seems to be a fair number of GOPers who are keeping xor Dec 2017 #16
Yup. I think they may know he is unfit and will out him when he gets to Washington LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #20
OK, I have thought this all along but had no confirmation from any source in Viet Nam trc Dec 2017 #9
This makes a lot of sense. dewsgirl Dec 2017 #31
There are children somewhere that Moore didn't molest IronLionZion Dec 2017 #10
Moore might grope underage girls, Salviati Dec 2017 #11
He is a life long pedophile who should have been put in jail BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #12
That's what I don't understand! C Moon Dec 2017 #13
What's not to understand? BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #15
Perv of the World.... czarjak Dec 2017 #14
Sounds to me like Moore suddenly realized someone was seeing him there that he didn't want to... Girard442 Dec 2017 #17
Girls were too old Mopar151 Dec 2017 #19
exactly LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #21
sadly, most GIs visited a whore house if they were overseas during that war. olddad56 Dec 2017 #18
I know of a couple of RW'ers who fantasize about Thailand brothels, young girls (NWS) ffr Dec 2017 #22
Back in the '60s, my mother, a nurse, treated some of those "hunters" for VD. nocalflea Dec 2017 #33
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyup. n/t ffr Dec 2017 #36
, Hes the same guy Hes honorable. Hes disciplined. Morally straight. Highly principled. riversedge Dec 2017 #24
The soldiers under his command should have done us a favor and fragged him. Crowman2009 Dec 2017 #25
Good evening ladies and gentlemen, let me start by telling you about the time I went to a whorehouse underpants Dec 2017 #28
Who was the third guy - Scarsdale Dec 2017 #34
It's like: These allegations that I am a shoplifter are untrue. 45 years ago, my friend noticed Doodley Dec 2017 #26
Who the hell gets up in public and talks about even going to a whorehouse??? underpants Dec 2017 #27
Consider kwalter66 Dec 2017 #38
But Moore left! cyclonefence Dec 2017 #30
So even if true, he didn't report his buddy to the MPs? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2017 #37
Exactly how does one "accidently" end up in a whore house? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2017 #39
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
23. Well, shit ... ya know, he wasn't going to PAY THEM ... right?
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:20 AM
Dec 2017

Obviously, the man had a creed:

"If you, as a Red-Blooded Murkan MAN, can't seduce, all fair and square-like, some starving 13 year old Vietnamese prostitute in her war-torn homeland, for free, ya really don't deserve any. A man's gotta have STANDARDS, ya know? Hell, worse comes to worse, tell her that mama-san ain't livin' through the night anyhow, nor is most of her village! That'll git 'er!"

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. Bullshit story to get out in front of some (more) unspeakably bad shit.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:15 AM
Dec 2017

“Couple of beers” my ass. Based upon Moore’s history at home, it would seem highly likely that they deliberately went to a brothel that offered up children for sex. Clearly that was the big draw in the first place, as are similar establishments in Asia today.

xor

(1,204 posts)
16. One thing about this Moore stuff is that there seems to be a fair number of GOPers who are keeping
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:45 AM
Dec 2017

him at arms length. When the very first allegation came out there were some republicans were saying he needed step aside. Even as someone who definitely does not support Moore, I found that a bit premature because there was hardly any information in the public at that time. But now the more we learn about Moore and the more we see certain republicans not supporting him, it makes me really suspect they all know somethings that absolutely confirm what we already heard and maybe worse.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
20. Yup. I think they may know he is unfit and will out him when he gets to Washington
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:28 AM
Dec 2017

BUT...


Not before he casts his vote for the big tax theft bonanza. That is all they care about. They are trying to walk a fine line until that time. Lindsey Graham is a good example. Say all the right things against what he is accused of, while not demanding he step aside at present.

trc

(823 posts)
9. OK, I have thought this all along but had no confirmation from any source in Viet Nam
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:25 AM
Dec 2017

I thought from the beginning that Moore may have been introduced to the concept of much younger girls as sex partners while in Viet Nam. The girls/women are smaller than American girls/women and generally look much younger as well. Is it possible that his time in Viet Nam fetishized girls in Moores mind? Just a thought, a weird, creepy thought.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
10. There are children somewhere that Moore didn't molest
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:28 AM
Dec 2017

but the liberal media never talks about the children Moore didn't molest, do they? No, the media are the real predators here. What they forgot to mention was Hillary was there in Vietnam to buy those kids some pizza. It's in her emails



Salviati

(6,008 posts)
11. Moore might grope underage girls,
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:57 AM
Dec 2017

and he might do more than that. But he certainly isn't going to pay for it, a man has to have a line.

BigmanPigman

(51,599 posts)
15. What's not to understand?
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:30 AM
Dec 2017

It is still a man's world. They make, break and rewrite the rules to suit them. Nice, huh?

I was watching Close Encounters last night and every person (well 99.9%) that was in the scene showing the intelligent, super secret scientists were men. No one seems to see that as odd but as the norm. If they were all women people would notice since THAT would seem odd.

Things never change very much in the long run. I learned from my mother, who was the only working mom in my neighborhood, that we take one step forward and two steps back.

czarjak

(11,278 posts)
14. Perv of the World....
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:28 AM
Dec 2017

Hateful ignorance wrapped in religion or patriotism or both, is still hateful ignorance, RoyBoy.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
17. Sounds to me like Moore suddenly realized someone was seeing him there that he didn't want to...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:46 AM
Dec 2017

...and so he put on a big act.

"OMFG, you took me to a house of sin??!! How could you??!!"

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
19. Girls were too old
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:24 AM
Dec 2017

And it looks too much like a howahouse!

When he goes by himself, the mama-san buzzes him through to the nursery.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
21. exactly
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:34 AM
Dec 2017

Maybe because he knew Bill Sailing would never go for it. That he was a conservative pal, but with some sense of decency. So he put on that act for him because he knew that Bill would be appalled and probably tell his fellow soldiers back at the base if he actually admitted that he'd rather stay.

Bet you dollars to donuts that Moore hooked up with his pervert friend again and went another time or times without the "no-fun" Sailing to ruin it all.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
22. I know of a couple of RW'ers who fantasize about Thailand brothels, young girls (NWS)
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:54 AM
Dec 2017

They talk opening about the times they've gone over there and basically rented a really young woman for a couple of days. "You haven't lived until you've done that. They're not like American women. Anything goes and they treat you like royalty."

True.

I politely decline. Yeah, not my thing. Repulsive to think this is what motivates them sexually.

Then there are the hunters who tell their wives they're going up into the mountains for four days, but really are headed for the Nevada brothels and bars. It's a good ol' boys club for cheaters and not one I could say would be a democrat, they're all conservative to the core repugs. So for all you 'stand by your man' republican women reading this who have contracted something transmitted to you. It wasn't for a toilet seat. Open your eyes.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
33. Back in the '60s, my mother, a nurse, treated some of those "hunters" for VD.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:42 AM
Dec 2017

It was difficult for her because the wives were asked to come in for treatment and the doctor she worked for insisted she lie to the women about why they needed to be seen and treated.

Intrestingly, because they were mostly businessmen, my mom assumed they were all republicans.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
24. , Hes the same guy Hes honorable. Hes disciplined. Morally straight. Highly principled.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:00 AM
Dec 2017




...............They asked the third man to leave with them but he didn’t want to. So Sailing and Moore took his Jeep and left him there all night with sex workers, who they agreed were underage. The man returned to base the next morning on the back of a motorcycle, Sailing said with a grin.

Sailing viewed this story as a triumphant example of Moore’s sterling moral character. Although Sailing hasn’t seen Moore in 45 years, he said, “He’s the same guy… He’s honorable. He’s disciplined. Morally straight. Highly principled.”

In other words, he’s the kind of guy who might end up at a brothel with underage sex trafficking victims, but only by accident.

underpants

(182,819 posts)
28. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, let me start by telling you about the time I went to a whorehouse
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:00 AM
Dec 2017

As I posted below - who the hell picks THAT one story to lead with?

It sounds like a line from Cousin Eddie in the National Lampoon movies, "Well this one night we'd had a few and ended up at a whorehouse..."
Clark, "Let me stop you there Eddie"

There's nothing else to talk about? They were in a war together, that usually is enough - it's a card not a lot of people can play.

Seriously WTF?!?!?

Doodley

(9,092 posts)
26. It's like: These allegations that I am a shoplifter are untrue. 45 years ago, my friend noticed
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:28 AM
Dec 2017

I had accidentally left a big bag of dog food on the bottom shelf of my shopping cart as I was walking to the car and I had not paid for it. I went straight back into the store and paid for the dog food. This proves that all these allegations that I am a shoplifter are untrue.

underpants

(182,819 posts)
27. Who the hell gets up in public and talks about even going to a whorehouse???
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:46 AM
Dec 2017

I mean WTF?

There has to be some other story you could get up and speak about for a guy YOU ARE SUPPORTING! Let alone someone with his history.

There isn't one other thing that he could talk about for a guy he served with in a war?

 

kwalter66

(80 posts)
38. Consider
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:58 PM
Dec 2017

the audience. Can't get too complicated with those who spend their free time at a Roy Moore rally.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
30. But Moore left!
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:17 AM
Dec 2017

The very next sentence from the quoted material:

But according to Sailing, Moore was shocked by what he saw. “We shouldn’t be here, I’m leaving,” Moore said, according to Sailing.

They asked the third man to leave with them but he didn’t want to. So Sailing and Moore took his Jeep and left him there all night with sex workers, who they agreed were underage. The man returned to base the next morning on the back of a motorcycle, Sailing said with a grin.
-----

How is this helpful to us? And I think slinging fake mud is worse than slinging no mud at all.

Granted, it's a weak defense for a pedophile to talk about one time (maybe *the* one time) he controlled himself. Maybe he doesn't like Asian girls.

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