Gillibrand, Wyden join calls for Trump to resign over allegations

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill



BY AVERY ANAPOL - 12/11/17 02:33 PM EST

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) called Monday for an investigation into the sexual harassment allegations against President Trump.

Wyden tweeted out an article about the news conference earlier Monday where some of the women who accused Trump of sexual harassment or assault recounted their experiences and called for a Congressional investigation into the accusations.

Link to tweet

The three women who spoke at the news conference are a fraction of the at least 16 women who have accused Trump of sexual harassment or assault. The White House’s official position is that the women are lying.

Wyden joins a growing chorus of lawmakers urging Trump to step down over the allegations. Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) have all called for Trump to resign following the resignation of Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) over groping allegations.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364302-gillibrand-wyden-join-calls-for-trump-to-resign-over-allegations

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CNN exclusive: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand calls on Trump to resign

By Mick Krever, CNN
Updated 2:48 PM ET, Mon December 11, 2017

(CNN)Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York told CNN on Monday that President Donald Trump should resign over allegations of sexual misconduct.

"President Trump should resign," Gillibrand told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview. "These allegations are credible; they are numerous. I've heard these women's testimony, and many of them are heartbreaking."

If he does not "immediately resign," she said, Congress "should have appropriate investigations of his behavior and hold him accountable."

Responding to UN Ambassador Nikki Haley saying that Trump's accusers "should be heard," Gillibrand said: "Not only should women be heard, but they should be believed."

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politics/trump-resign-gillibrand-sexual-assault/index.html

[forgotmylogin]

1. Go get 'em, Gillibrand.

If the 4-D strategy is we had to make a pawn sacrifice of Franken to put the King in check, more power to them.

[Mr.Bill]

9. You've got to be kidding me.

Al Franken is not a "pawn". He is a United States Senator elected by the people of Minnesota. She has no right to call for his resignation without due process.

And Kirsten, We will always remember you called for Senator Franken to resign before you called on Trump to do so.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Little late to join others calling for the Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief to resign...

Though, better late than never I guess.

[riversedge]

35. It is never to late and I am glad she is spoke out

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Guess you're right... just would have been better if she had spoken up earlier

is all I'm saying, so as not to look like she was pressured to say something. But, yes, I'm glad too.

[Skittles]

16. WTF?

THE WOMAN FELL FOR AN OBVIOUS POLITICAL HIT JOB

[Honeycombe8]

20. She's a wimp. She's only doing what WE told her to do. She's a follower. Not a leader.

She's trying to make nice with the party members, who have vowed not to vote for her, since she's playing politics (and not very well).

I know her game. I know she's trying to play me. Won't work.

Goodbye gillilamb. You will NEVER be President.

[0rganism]

34. pawn? no, more like a bishop, maybe a rook

politicians like Al Franken are not exactly commonplace. we'd damn well better see more than a "check" come out of this "gambit", or we can just fucking admit that it's basically a big win for the Republifuckers.

[madaboutharry]

2. He needs to be impeached for treason and obstruction of justice.

He conspired with a hostile nation to influence an election. On a daily basis he undermines and violates the U.S. Constitution.

[gordianot]

6. +1000

[C Moon]

12. +1000x1000

Sorry. I mean to reply one thread above.

[zentrum]

18. Exactly.

And for his financial corruption. This will short-circuit all of that, activate his base, and not actually restore the rule of law on which our democracy is hanging by a thread.

[Yavin4]

3. Guess Trump will be resigning any day now.

And if he doesn't resign, I'm just sure that good ole Mitch will schedule public hearings and let these women testify against Trump under oath.

Great jobs Dems! Way to take on Trump! Way to go!

[Iliyah]

4. LOL, McTurtle and Lying Ryan set hearings you say

They are finding more ways to fuck Americans.

[mentalslavery]

11. Yep... that ill get'em.....

now repuks are shakin

[Chakaconcarne]

5. Let's just continue to keep it in the headlines.

[Honeycombe8]

22. It'd be better coming from someone with cajones. Not a follower who's never done anything.

Someone in a leadership position with cajones. I'm sure there are a few. This never-been-heard-of-before person is not one of those.

[ebbie15644]

7. grandstanding

not going to happen and everyone knows it's not

[IronLionZion]

8. Dems should still schedule hearings and investigate

don't bother asking McTurtle and Ryan to do it.

[Egnever]

10. They can't

They do not control the committees they can't schedule hearings without republican approval.

[IronLionZion]

13. They can do it outside on the Capitol hill steps in front of news cameras

and force the issue

[Honeycombe8]

23. Waste of time & resources. We need to focus. This gal is just saying this...

because we told her she should have called on him to resign, like she did for Franken. That's all she's doing. Trying to play us. If this is what she thought, she would've said it, oh...maybe back in January? Or February. Or March. Or April. Maybe May, June or July. If not then, then maybe August or September. How 'bout October? November?

She's not very good at this political game.

[yurbud]

14. if they thought calling for Franken to resign first would somehow shame GOP or

Trump, they haven't been paying attention for a couple of decades.

[LenaBaby61]

15. THIS.

[Honeycombe8]

24. They were getting Franken out of the way for her & others to run for Prez.

He was so popular that people were asking HIM to run for Prez. He was the one being asked on all the talk shows. He was also one of the strongest senator at the Russian hearings, particularly with Sessions. He had to go, so someone else could shine.

[yurbud]

33. crap.

[Honeycombe8]

41. I really think that. If he had been a nobody newbie...

They would have ignored it...and there wouldn't have been the accusations in the first place.

It is not a coincidence that he was the most popular Senator in the nation. was the one who was being asked on all the talk shows (not the women with Presidential aspirations), was a bit hit during the Russian investigations (none of the women with Presidential aspirations were), and most importantly...WAS BEING ASKED BY SOME OF THE PUBLIC TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

In short, he was sucking the air and all the attention out of the Senate, so these with Presidential aspirations didn't have a platform to shine. NOW they are all over tv, aren't they? People NOW know Gillilamb's name. The women are being asked on talk shows.

This is...for real....one of the main reasons. When this opportunity to get him out of the way came up, they took it.

[yurbud]

42. I thought of him as presidential material--funny, warm, telegenic, progressive enough

for the base but not so much he'd scare the big donors--or maybe, like Howard Dean in 2004, it wasn't how far left he was, but that he wasn't entirely owned and blessed by big money.

Someone with real grassroots support can afford to be independent on some issues.

Obama had the grassroots support, but he had been vetted and shepherded to that point, so the people with money trusted him not to turn on them.

And he didn't.

Unless I'm mistaken, Al was not especially beholden to any one donor or patron, which alone made him dangerous.

[Honeycombe8]

44. He said he has no aspirations for the Presidency...he was excited about being a MN Senator.

But of course they all say that. Still, there were people asking him to run. I would've voted for him, and I'm not far left. I just liked him a lot (likability has a LOT to do with voted; people don't vote, usu., for people they don't like; they're predisposed to vote for who they like, IMO). But I also thought he was smart, articulate, a leader who can make good judgment calls, bold but not brash or hasty, honest & ethical. He also is on the left...too far left for me, probably, but that's asking for a perfect world.

But I think that probably scared the Senators who really had their eye on running for Presidency.

[yurbud]

45. a good case in point for likability: recall of Gray Davis in California

Californians got screwed out of $14 billion by energy traders after electricity deregulation. Then Republicans blamed that deficit on Davis as the excuse for the recall.

Davis had zero media presence, especially compared to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The recall had two parts as well: remove Davis AND pick his replacement if he was removed.

Since Davis couldn't run to replace himself, the Democratic candidate was Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante who was on top of this energy issue. But the guy was so boring, I couldn't stand to listen to him talk for more than a few sentences. And I voted for him.

[Honeycombe8]

46. I didn't know all those details. I wondered about that. How it all came down.

What the hell happened? I remember thinking that.

[yurbud]

47. Greg Palast of the BBC covered it best:

By Greg Palast, excerpted from Armed Madhouse

May 17, 2001. In a room at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverley Hills, the Financial Criminal of the twentieth century, not long out of prison, met with the Financial Criminal of the twenty-first century who feared he may also have to do hard time. These two, bondmarket manipulators Mike Milken and Ken Lay, no-yet-indicted Chairman of Enron Corporation, were joined by a select group of movers and shakers - and one movie star.

Arnold Schwarzenegger had been to such private parties before. As a young immigrant without a nickel to his name, he put on private displays of his musculature for guests of his promoter. As with those early closed gatherings, I don't know all that went on at the Peninsula Hotel meet, though I understand "Ahnold," this time, did not have to strip down to his Speedos. Nevertheless, the moral undressing was just as lascivious, if you read through the 34 pages of notes that arrived at our office.

Lay, who convened the hugger-mugger, was in a bit of trouble. Enron and the small oligopoly of other companies that ruled California's electricity system had been caught jacking up the price of power and gas by fraud, conspiracy and manipulation. A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon it was real money -- $6.3 billion in suspect windfalls in just six months, May through December 2000, for a half dozen electricity buccaneers, at least $9 billion for the year. Their skim would have been higher but the tricksters thought they were limited by the number of digits the state's power-buying computers could read.

When Ken met Arnold in the hotel room, the games were far from over. For example, in June 2003, Reliant Corporation of Houston simply turned off several power plants, and when California cities faced going dark, the company sold them a pittance of kilowatts for more than gold, making several million in minutes. Power-market shenanigans were nothing new in 2000. What was new was the response of Governor Gray Davis....

FULL TEXT

[Honeycombe8]

48. Thanks. How do some people sleep at night? Geez. nt

[yurbud]

49. on mattresses made of money

[Honeycombe8]

50. I'm going to steal that! :) nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. If that's why Franken was pushed out without a hearing...

that's an absurd reason.

[SansACause]

30. THIS THIS!

Who are they kidding?

[disndat]

17. Empty Gesture

Gillibrand and Wyden aren't going to make up for the throwing Franken under the bus with this empty gesture.

[Honeycombe8]

25. Exactly. They're doing this to try to placate the base. Won't work.

Followers think that way. That's what makes them followers.

A leader would have called on Trump to resign during the past 11 months, or even last month.

[stonecutter357]

19. lol

[world wide wally]

21. Well, That should do it.

I guess Mueller can wrap it up now.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

26. He'll probably resign 1/25/2019.

That way, Pence will have an opportunity to serve almost 10 years.

Wouldn't that be something.

[PatrickforO]

27. Nothing ever quite works out the way you want it to. Gillibrand has been facing major blowback from

the party base over the failure to grant Franken due process.

I wonder if, as a result of that pressure from the base, she issued this call prematurely.

As angry as I am with using Franken as a pawn, one must acknowledge that women have been waiting a long time, have spent a long time being treated as second-class citizens. Perhaps it is an inconvenient time, but if not now, then when? But at the expense of one of our strongest voices?

Same for the really courageous souls in the House who voted FOR debate on articles of impeachment. If not now, when?

We'll see how it pans out. I don't think the anger being felt by so many in the base, myself included, is going to go away anytime soon.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. True dat... looks so reactionary.

[rockfordfile]

28. Where are the others?

[SansACause]

31. Maybe if 30 Dem Senators got together and insisted he resign...

If the ones who demanded Franken resign all got together to demand Trump resign, then maybe he'd...wait, no. He'd do nothing except laugh.

[LisaL]

36. Exactly. He doesn't care.

[TomCADem]

32. Agree. For a whole number of reasons in addition to his admitted...

...sexual assault.

[Nitram]

40. So why did Gillibrand et al wait until they had hounded Freanken out of office before turning their

attention to the Gropenfuhrer?

[ucrdem]

43. It's election day in AL. How bout a miliwatt of rage at Moore?

Last chance!