Sam Seder: MSNBC has 'no value' if it can't find context for Polanski tweet

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Source: The Hill

Former MSNBC contributor Sam Seder said Tuesday that the network made a mistake cutting ties with him over a joke he tweeted in 2009 about director Roman Polanski, saying it allowed far-right activist Mike Cernovich to determine his fate.

"I've had thousands of tweets since 2009. There was context for those tweets. If they can't make that assessment, if making that assessment is a bridge too far, they have no value as a news organization," Seder told CNN.

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More people need to be aware of Cernovich's tactics, Seder told CNN, adding that he hopes he can be a cautionary tale.

"If you decide to let this guy be the arbiter of what is and is not appropriate, understand who he is," Seder said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/363472-former-msnbc-contributor-network-has-no-value-if-it-cant-find-context-for

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[dchill]

1. K&R.

[pnwmom]

2. I think he's right to be furious. MSNBC is being deliberately obtuse.

Maybe they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him.

[stonecutter357]

3. Rape has never been a joking matter.

[JHB]

4. ...which was why he was mocking the Polanski apologists.

[LisaL]

5. The tweet is obviously sarcastic.

I guess some just don't get it.

[stonecutter357]

6. That is just sick! Who says shit like that?!?

[LisaL]

7. What is just sick?

He was mocking people who were making excuses for Polanski.

[stonecutter357]

9. the twit is disgusting .

[LisaL]

10. Mocking people who are making excuses for Polanski is disgusting?

[mr_lebowski]

13. As is implied above ... some people are simply never going to 'get it' ...

Especially when it's taken out of context and therefore can be presented as something it was never meant to be.

It's pretty disappointing of MSNBC, but ... we seem determined to continue to eat our own in search of absolute moral purity when it comes to anything having to do with sex.

It's going to be shown to be an even MORE brilliant stratagem when Moore is elected to Senate ... and Franken gets pushed out.

[JI7]

12. mocking those who make excuses for child molestor is disgusting ?

[mr_lebowski]

14. You know, I get your point on the one hand ...

But on the other hand ... it was 1969.

It was different times, with different values, and a very different set of 'known facts'.

So I honestly enquire: Is there evidence this sort of behavior has continued on Polanski's part in the nearly 50 years hence?

And assuming the answer to be 'no', only because I've never heard the contrary ... I just wonder ... can a person EVER 'do enough time' ... for a grave mistake in their past such as this, in your eyes?

IOW, can they EVER become something OTHER than ... a 'child molester' ... as long as they live?

Asking because I'm honestly curious.

[Voltaire2]

17. It was never ok to drug and rape children.

[tibbir]

25. I was 18 in 1969

Pedophilia has ALWAYS been a heinous crime.

[MaryMagdaline]

29. It was not a ha ha joke

It was vicious satire to mock and demean the rapist. The sting was all on the rapist

[stonecutter357]

30. where in the world is it Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:27 AM .... lol.

[MaryMagdaline]

31. I am in South Florida

My phone might be on some other planet. It's 9:42 EST where I am typing on my phone.

[stonecutter357]

32. you are very lucky it's 6:08 am in Moscow ......

[MaryMagdaline]

33. Only you would know 😊

Isn't that how they uncovered the Nazi spy in Stalag 17? He mistakenly gave Berlin time for Pearl Harbor bombing

[Cattledog]

8. All humor is rooted in pain.

Richard Pryor

[Egnever]

18. Brilliant!

[JHan]

11. I Don't get it, the context was so obvious.

what are we becoming?

[mr_lebowski]

15. Puritans, it would seem ... (n/t)

[JHan]

34. I'm glad MSNBC finally saw reason..

and I'm sure it was just due to pressure.

Why even make such a decision. smh. I hope Sam still does that documentary on Cernovich.

[BeyondGeography]

16. Can not decide whether his firing was more weak or dumb on MSNBCs part

[Historic NY]

19. Interesting to note that far-right activist(s) Mike Cernovich

are scouring tweets and any other sources to stifle liberal commentary.

[Ferrets are Cool]

21. Ding, Ding, Ding

[Kimchijeon]

20. MSNBC is a corporate shit-fest? Please, do tell lol

Next up, O'Donnell & Maddow, fired because of whatever nonsense "reasons."

Fuck MSNBC, they are garbage and firing Sam shows it of course.

The fascist firing spree of males in public positions over "offenses" however trite and fake is just the current successful wave of Mcarthyism that is helping the oligarchy's agenda.

Not sure what the peasants can really do but raise awareness while we still can (have access to free internet, that is.)

Just be aware of the reality I suppose. Keep your head down, struggle and survive somehow, escape if you can. Support each other and don't fall for the lies.

Don't fall for the emotional traps to fight the other peasants, we are all in this together, etc.

Such bullshit Sam, sorry they fucked you over!!

[stonecutter357]

22. Is this shit about bernie sanders ?

[Gothmog]

23. I strongly disagree with MSNBC on this action

[womanofthehills]

24. I strongly disagree with MSNBC too- some are too dumb to get sarcism

[still_one]

26. Actually that applies to most national televised outlets

[MaryMagdaline]

27. Jonathan Swift - a modest proposal

I was not aware of the tweet when he posted it but it absolutely destroys the Polanski rape apologists a la Jonathan Swift's Modest Proposal

[klook]

28. Cernovich is a right-wing troll, and I'm disgusted that MSNBC took the bait.

Seder is getting shafted based on cherry-picked material from someone who operates in the Atwater-O'Keefe sphere of ratfuckery.

It's pathetic how easily some can be duped and cornered.