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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:11 PM Dec 2017

CBS News poll: Alabama Republicans call allegations against Roy Moore false

Source: CBS News



CBS NEWS December 3, 2017, 10:30 AM

By Jennifer De Pinto, Fred Backus, Kabir Khanna and Anthony Salvanto

A new CBS News poll finds 71 percent of Alabama Republicans say the allegations against Roy Moore are false, and those who believe this also overwhelmingly believe Democrats and the media are behind those allegations.



The poll found 92 percent of Republicans who don't believe the allegations against Moore say the Democrats are behind the charges, and 88 percent say newspapers and the media are behind them.

Multiple women have come forward to accuse Moore of inappropriately pursuing or touching them when they were teenagers. The youngest woman to accuse Moore says she was 14 and he was 32 at the time.

The Senate contest looks to be highly dependent on turnout. Moore has a lead over Democrat Doug Jones, 49 percent to 43 percent, among the likely voters who are most apt to vote on Dec. 12. Among all registered voters, the contest is even. And nearly a quarter of voters still describe themselves as "maybe" or "probably" going to vote.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-alabama-republicans-call-allegations-against-moore-false/

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CBS News poll: Alabama Republicans call allegations against Roy Moore false (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
tRump effect cilla4progress Dec 2017 #1
Mass psychosis in action benfranklin1776 Dec 2017 #17
Someone gave an identifying term to this illness pervading sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #22
For the voters, I assume the problem is NOT condoning molestation, but not believing the media karynnj Dec 2017 #24
Oh, what a shocker! (not) Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #2
I am not sure if a good Democratic turnout can win us this race. Alabama is awfully conservative StevieM Dec 2017 #3
Jones is up by 3% Panho Dec 2017 #4
it's not enough to win with the dirty tricks they have mucifer Dec 2017 #9
Yup... BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #25
Moore up by 6% per CBS article alp227 Dec 2017 #27
There is nothing conservative about the Alabama republicans. Scruffy1 Dec 2017 #5
I completely agree pandr32 Dec 2017 #7
Delusional IS the right word. pangaia Dec 2017 #14
We be done, it is over. Nice knowing you all. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #6
If Jesus parted the clouds and said the women told the truth, they would call him a Democrat dalton99a Dec 2017 #8
Believe it! eom sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #23
I am ready for the US to secede from Alabama. Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #10
+1000 Pachamama Dec 2017 #11
Pay your share of the national debt on the way out. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #19
There is only one emoji that can express this turbinetree Dec 2017 #12
Put your money where your mouths are, you vile, contemptible scum, theaocp Dec 2017 #13
Alabama Republicans heve to lie to themselves to vote for Roy Moore. I'm shocked..... marble falls Dec 2017 #15
Projection much?? ananda Dec 2017 #16
71% of Republicans in Alabama admit they are stupid PuffedMica Dec 2017 #18
Moore is up 6 in the same poll. Not surprising. andym Dec 2017 #20
Translation: "Alabama wimmin are LIARS!" Grins Dec 2017 #21
Alabama aka the Heart of Dixie BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #26
Willful ignorance is not pretty Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #28

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
17. Mass psychosis in action
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:00 PM
Dec 2017

And the worst part of it is that they pretend to be good moral Christians. They’re no more Christian than I am a Martian. Who would Jesus molest? Answer: no one, and as I recall, he stated that it’s better for a millstone to be tied around a person’s neck than that person harm a child. Guess they don’t read their source material much.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
22. Someone gave an identifying term to this illness pervading
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:17 AM
Dec 2017

our nation:'A pathology'.

That resonated with me.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
24. For the voters, I assume the problem is NOT condoning molestation, but not believing the media
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 AM
Dec 2017

Many of the Republicans have been listening just (or primarily ) to the right wing - Rush Limbaugh and his many fellow RW people and later FOX news, one message they got daily is that the "drive by" (what is that?) media or MSM are liberal and lie to achieve their goals.

This is insidious. These evil people did two things - they validated people who were dispirited and feared they were "losers" - telling them they were the ones that had it right. More than right, they claimed SOLE connection to true Christianity. The liberals - defined as anyone to the left of the center of the Republican party - were not just wrong, but heathens and immoral. All media other than the right wing was said to support these "liberals". Consider many have believed this since the 1990s.

Many of these people are likely happily brainwashed and feel they are acting to protect everything they believe in by trying to stop the "liberals". Oddly, because of this belief, their political and ideological stances can be compatible with people living up standing lives, being good spouses, good parents, and good neighbors. In fact, in red areas seeing people who in real live you respect having adapted Rush Limbaugh type beliefs may give them additional credence.

As I wrote this, Morning Joe was reading Trump's weekend tweets, which I had thought out of control and irrational. However, everything he was tweeting was just to this group of people who would readily see that it confirms their view of the world.

To me, this may explain why they ignore issues - like who will insure they have have health care and a security net. It also explains how they can believe that the US is more influential in the world when we have alienated most of our allies - other than the Sunnis and Israel. It explains why many of these people have a grossly distorted view of both Republican and Democratic leaders. To some extent, there is some normal partisan tendency to emphasize the good on your side and the bad on the theirs, but this goes far beyond anything normal.

Back to Moore - after this long digression. The poll shows that a large majority of Republicans say they do not believe the charges and they believe that those charges were created by Democrats and the media. Thinking about what they have listened to and watched since at least the mid 1990s, this might be what they really believed rather than an excuse to be for someone they even have questions about. This even though, even in Alabama, Moore was already controversial.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
3. I am not sure if a good Democratic turnout can win us this race. Alabama is awfully conservative
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:22 PM
Dec 2017

and they are very likely to elect the Republican, regardless of who they are.

I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
27. Moore up by 6% per CBS article
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:26 PM
Dec 2017
The Senate contest looks to be highly dependent on turnout. Moore has a lead over Democrat Doug Jones, 49 percent to 43 percent, among the likely voters who are most apt to vote on Dec. 12. Among all registered voters, the contest is even. And nearly a quarter of voters still describe themselves as "maybe" or "probably" going to vote.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
5. There is nothing conservative about the Alabama republicans.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:31 PM
Dec 2017

I can think of some better words. Delusional comes to mind. I wish the media would drop that term. It's a way of normalizing bat shit crazy.

pandr32

(11,594 posts)
7. I completely agree
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:38 PM
Dec 2017

"Conservative" was trampled to death by "Delusional" with the Tea Party wave, and now those people are considered too middle of the road by "Bat-shit Crazy."

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. Delusional IS the right word.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:32 PM
Dec 2017

One does not have to be running around in circles bleating like a sheep to be delusional. That is called circling disease.

really. I am serious.

"Listeriosis is an infectious but not contagious disease caused by the bacterium Listeria monocytogenes, far more common in domestics animals (domestic mammals and poultry), especially ruminants, than in human beings. ... The causative bacterium lives in the soil and in poorly made silage, and is acquired by ingestion."


WIKI

dalton99a

(81,526 posts)
8. If Jesus parted the clouds and said the women told the truth, they would call him a Democrat
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:43 PM
Dec 2017

and tell him to get lost

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
19. Pay your share of the national debt on the way out.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:50 PM
Dec 2017

and let go of the military bases.

Don't forget to put up a wall.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
12. There is only one emoji that can express this
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:01 PM
Dec 2017


Whatever Kool-aid those people are drinking, it is dangerous, they really believe that democrats and the media are behind this, how many stations are owned by Sinclair / Circa down there?

And since tax dollars are funding the space program down there maybe there should be a re-evaluation-------------and since Airbus is producing planes down there maybe they should re-evaluate


That state is really fucked up.....................

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/2016.html




theaocp

(4,241 posts)
13. Put your money where your mouths are, you vile, contemptible scum,
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:24 PM
Dec 2017

and bring your daughters to hang out with him. Line up, you fucks.

PuffedMica

(1,061 posts)
18. 71% of Republicans in Alabama admit they are stupid
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:20 PM
Dec 2017

I am not too sure about the intelligence of the other 17% either.

andym

(5,444 posts)
20. Moore is up 6 in the same poll. Not surprising.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:29 PM
Dec 2017

From the article: "The Senate contest looks to be highly dependent on turnout. Moore has a lead over Democrat Doug Jones, 49 percent to 43 percent, among the likely voters who are most apt to vote on Dec. 12. Among all registered voters, the contest is even. And nearly a quarter of voters still describe themselves as "maybe" or "probably" going to vote."

Grins

(7,218 posts)
21. Translation: "Alabama wimmin are LIARS!"
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:20 AM
Dec 2017

Translation: "Alabama wimmin' are LIARS!"

Tell me again why any woman would vote Republican?

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
26. Alabama aka the Heart of Dixie
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:44 AM
Dec 2017

Ranks

47th in Healthcare
47th in Education
42nd in Crime and Correction
40th in Opportunity
45th in Economy
48th in Employment

So don’t expect much from the Heart of Dixie - no one else is...

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