Democrats Erupt In Anger After Corrupt Tax Bill Passes The Senate

[TomCADem]

Source: Huffington Post

Democratic senators unleashed their anger on Twitter after Republicans voted to pass their tax bill through the Senate shortly before 2 a.m. on Saturday.

Senate Republicans voted to pass the controversial bill, a rewrite of the current tax code, after senators debated the bill all day Friday. Democrats, who maintain that the bill unfairly benefits only the very wealthy, had received a final copy of the nearly 500-page bill just hours before the vote took place.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) attempted to push a vote on the bill to Monday so Democrats would have enough time to read it thoroughly. Republicans voted against the delay.

Many Democratic senators said they weren’t able to read the entire draft of the tax rewrite, which contained handwritten notes and crossed-out pages, ahead of the vote. Others promised they would keep fighting against the bill, which still needs to be reconciled with the House version before it becomes law.

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-democrats-react-to-gop-tax-bill-passed_us_5a22520de4b03c44072dbb9e

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. When people argued about (cant talk about this on DU) they were admitting

that losing EVERYTHING was likely, but



emails


Most reading this will be homeless when they retire. So they wont retire, but they will have to due to automation.

I hope the 40 million trump voters who will be DEVASTATED by this will REACT somehow

but they wont

fuck this

i might just give up pretty soon

[TomCADem]

2. Well, Susan Sarandon and Cornel West Are Still Doubling Down...

... on their arguments that there was no difference between Hillary and the Con.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war

Still, I think while there was vast political error on both sides, the inability of Sarandon and her ilk to embrace the lesser of two evils permitted the greater of the two evils to rise. And yet I like Sarandon. It takes real courage to go against the mob. Her inconsistencies are a little wild, but in the age of social-media enforced conformity, I have never met anyone so uninterested in toeing the line.

Did she really say that Hillary was more dangerous than Trump?

“Not exactly, but I don’t mind that quote,” she says. “I did think she was very, very dangerous. We would still be fracking, we would be at war [if she was president]. It wouldn’t be much smoother. Look what happened under Obama that we didn’t notice.”

It seems absurd to argue that healthcare, childcare, taxation for the non-rich wouldn’t be better now under President Clinton, and that’s before we get to the threat of deportation hanging over millions of immigrants. “She would’ve done it the way Obama did it,” says Sarandon, “which was sneakily. He deported more people than have been deported now. How he got the Nobel peace prize I don’t know. I think it was very important to have a black family in the White House and I think some of the stuff he did was good. He tried really hard about healthcare. But he didn’t go all the way because of big pharma.”

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. Any response I make will...self censor, self censor.

Internet is gone, taxes will make it so i wont have time to post here even if my ISP allows it.

The appropriate reaction, btw to the tax bill, the APPROPRIATE reaction is something I dont DARE post on here

We are at THAT point.

[First Speaker]

23. I think it's quite possible lots of people will be at "THAT point" come January, 2019...

...if--as seems certain--Trump is exposed as a traitor, the GOP Congress does nothing about it, and they gerrymander a 54-45% loss in the popular vote for Congress into a majority. At that point, more and more people will feel that our "democracy" is a sham, and they will feel they have nothing to lose. God help the USA then.

[erronis]

25. But I wonder if the real masters of this charade don't want exactly what you are suggesting

I admit I am doing the making of an ASS of U and Me, but...

The logical response to a travesty of representational government is to throw off the bonds that that have shackled true democracy.

If Dump doesn't pay a fair tax and if lobbyists/government officials/corporatists all hide their gains from the tax collectors, than why should we pay for their evasions?

I certainly hope that those that can wield true power (the military) will be rational and uphold their allegiance to the Constitution.

[notdarkyet]

16. Me too.

[question everything]

3. "Erupting in anger" is not going to accomplish anything

I have to question the apparently strategy of just sit tight and give the Republicans a long rope to hang.

Or actively debate and propose different legislation.

Sure, the deploarbles will blame Democrats until they die for lack of adequate health care, but it will have to be fighting in the trenches, in the streets, in coffee shops of small towns.

We need to have credible candidates who will visit a dying person and will point the finger at the Republican incumbent and say: this is his/her fault.

[tazkcmo]

10. From an angrily worded letter

To angrily worded tweet.

[winstars]

5. "Unleashed their anger on Twitter" Is this the new "sternly worded letter" GO DEMS!!!

When will we learn to fight back?

And how to fight back?

I am unsure how to actually, but "unleashing their anger on Twitter" is probably not gonna work that great.

[murielm99]

6. I think Democrats are fighting back.

But we have to win elections before we can be effective. Find candidates. Get out and vote for them.

[winstars]

7. I will and I am I don't want to become "them" but we HAVE TO fight back, STRONGER!!!!

[hatrack]

8. Bullshit. Shut the fucking government down until this POS is tabled

And guess what? The Pukes are going to blame the Democrats (and Obama and Benghazi and Her Emails) even if they are 110% responsible themselves for shutting down the government.

Given that, Shumer and Pelosi may as well shove it up McConnell's ass sideways - what the HELL do they have to lose?

"They go low, we go high" isn't working out very well, in case you'd lost the thread this past week.

They want to run this place like the Reichstag in 1933? So be it - burn it down.

[murielm99]

9. Not bullshit.

There are plenty of people out in the field working for candidates, doing everything they can to create change. Posts like yours change nothing. Hard work and GOTV create change. Swearing on a message board is futile.

[hatrack]

13. Posts like yours change even less . . . .

But hey, keep on Schoolhouse Rocking civics 101, if that makes you happy.

[notdarkyet]

17. Hear, here

[BumRushDaShow]

11. "still needs to be reconciled with the House version before it becomes law."

Unless the House takes the Senate bill, makes no changes to it, and passes it, then whatever "version" comes out of the joint House-Senate committee as a "reconciled" version, will have to be voted on AGAIN by both chambers.

[Martin Eden]

12. Democratic leaders need to hold onto that anger ...

... and use it to light a fire under the voters to get them off their asses and to the polls next November.

[tapermaker]

26. I am afraid the only way things will ever change is war.

Every I'll person sentenced to death by this or coming bills of mass destruction should take out their second amendment rights on their nearest well off Republican .Nothing will ever change without blood..They have no soul to reason with.

[Martin Eden]

27. Putin wants the USA to tear itself apart.

We just need to get enough souls to the polls.

[tapermaker]

29. They will just cheat some more

It's useless.to think they will play by the rules if there is a chance of loosing. They aren't loosing anymore.

[Martin Eden]

30. There is no victory in the bloodbath you advocate.

Totally unrelated, I just have to tell you that loose rhymes with juice and lose rhymes with booze.

I don't know why so many people spell "loose" or "loosing" when they mean "lose" or "losing."

[tapermaker]

31. Thanks for the help with my spelling

I am not advocating anything, just saying that's what we have to work with .I am old and just don't see well enough to wear rose colored glasses. It feels more and more like a full bowel of shit we're swimming in.

[Martin Eden]

32. I'm a realist, always looking for practical solutions.

Though I don't consider myself to be old, Eisenhower was president when I was born.

Living through the 60s with all the assassinations, war, and riots, my experience tells me all things will pass.

[rockfordfile]

14. Good Americans should be upset. Americans should be protesting

[beachbum bob]

15. passing this in the Senate still takes some doing when meeting with house to "reconcile"

truly bat shit crazies aint going to like all the giveaways given to particular senators.
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This show is far from over.....

[not fooled]

18. Last night

I stayed up to watch the vote. At the moment this turd passed I made the decision to emigrate.

This is now Kochistan, not the America I grew up in and loved.

These fuckers will keep the reich in power and blight the remaining years of my life if I stay here. I can't take being constantly outraged and angry when the kochs and their ilk have figured out how to game the system to force their agenda down our throats.

Too much has changed. They have wrecked this country.

[rtracey]

19. means nothing

This means nothing unless this party gets up, gets mean, and gets people voting.... Stop bringing a knife to a gun fight, bring a fucking rocket launcher.....

[TomCADem]

20. Exactly. Why Can't the Poor Raise Millions Like the Republican's Backers

The poor and working class need to "Stop bringing a knife to a gun fight, bring a fucking rocket launcher....."

Or, perhaps Democrats need to make a deal with the devil like the Republicans and cater to racism, xenophobia and sexism. Its been done before with so-called progressives scapegoating immigrants and trade for society's ills.

[BigmanPigman]

24. Bill Maher has been trying to get Dem

guests on his show to agree with him...Dems need to stop taking the high road if we are to ever win again. Only one guest agreed with him (Sarah Silverman). I have been saying this for over 17 years. I would be thrilled if they took a page from the dirty GOP playbook. It works...they've proved it over and over.

[jalan48]

21. How about encouraging their constituents to take to the streets in protest?

Make this a big fucking deal so that American's don't forget who was responsible. And yes, Americans will forget because the corporate media distraction machine is powerful.

[KPN]

37. Yep. They should be leading the way, organizing and calling for mass protests rather than

making themselves feel better and possibly some of their constituents by expressing outrage on twitter. Not enough Dems.

[pnwmom]

22. It's not true Senators "debated the bill all day Friday." They didn't debate it AT ALL. n/t

[johnnylol]

35. tax bill

the bill passed just before 2:00am this morning...

[pnwmom]

36. Right. After no debate. n/t

[DangerousUrNot]

28. This shit is emotionally draining.

[EarthFirst]

34. Yep.

I almost have no way to express anything anymore.

[EarthFirst]

33. Well thats a relief!

An arbitrary gesture of anger on Twitter!

That’ll show ‘em!

[KPN]

38. Right?! Geesh.