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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:29 PM Dec 2017

I'm 'Unbeatable' in 2020, Trump Declares

Source: Bloomberg



By Jennifer Jacobs
December 2, 2017, 11:54 AM EST Updated on December 2, 2017, 12:35 PM EST

President Donald Trump, fresh off a victory in the Senate that puts him a step closer to passing a huge tax-cut bill by year-end, and with the U.S. stock market near record highs, declared himself “unbeatable” for 2020.

“Unless they have somebody that we don’t know about, right now we’re unbeatable,” Trump said Saturday at a Trump Victory Fund finance breakfast in New York City.

Trump said, without elaboration, that “new numbers just came out” backing up his assessment of the electoral landscape. The White House and the Republican National Committee didn’t immediately respond to questions on the numbers the president was referring to.

“One of the reasons is what’s happening with the markets, what’s happening with business, what’s happening with jobs,” Trump told about 450 attendees at the midtown restaurant Cipriani -- the first of three fundraising events for the day that are expected to raise about $6 million.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-02/trump-says-he-s-unbeatable-in-2020-on-tax-cuts-stock-market

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I'm 'Unbeatable' in 2020, Trump Declares (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
"We'll see about that." said every Democrat in America. TeamPooka Dec 2017 #1
Live video of potential "tax reform" beneficiaries reaction. forgotmylogin Dec 2017 #11
So he is basically banking on the electoral system. DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #2
Because he won't be a candidate. PubliusEnigma Dec 2017 #3
For sure, .... the vote for his guilt by the jury will be unanimous ! Jarqui Dec 2017 #4
"I was sitting on the toilet..." OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #5
Gallup has him at 33+ 66- underpants Dec 2017 #7
+ 1 red dog 1 Dec 2017 #23
True 2left4u Dec 2017 #6
Welcome to DU! red dog 1 Dec 2017 #25
If Trump is a candidate in 2020, I would be very surprised. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #8
Talk about "spiking the football" he hasn't actually got the tax bill on his desk yet. underpants Dec 2017 #9
Hey asshole, yes you the narcissistic malignant psychopath, with orange hair that thinks everything turbinetree Dec 2017 #10
If he lasts that long, maybe Bradical79 Dec 2017 #12
what did he do to make that tax bill happen? yurbud Dec 2017 #13
Spread around truckloads of Putin's money. lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #32
I thought they got it from OUR oligarchs, but whatever yurbud Dec 2017 #34
It's so predictable that a guy with a SHRIMP DICK would say UNBEATABLE. Can he even find it? TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #14
One of the reasons is whats happening with the markets, whats happening with business" left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #15
How unbeatable will he be in 2020 when its debatable he may not survice 2017? marble falls Dec 2017 #16
Technically, when he's in solitary, other inmates will not be able to beat him NotASurfer Dec 2017 #17
I, for one, would not beat a hefty bag full of shit. It might break. yurbud Dec 2017 #35
I agree, he'll be unbeatable in 2020 Mr. Ected Dec 2017 #18
It is against the law to beat prisoners or mental hospital patients. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #22
"How's your 401(k) doing?" William Seger Dec 2017 #19
401Ks are a rip off anyway TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #27
It depends on the employer... Rollo Dec 2017 #45
Quite Inaccurate ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #48
Well again Corgigal Dec 2017 #20
The market rate of rise is slower now than in the Obama years. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #21
K&R red dog 1 Dec 2017 #24
Sure. Turbineguy Dec 2017 #26
There are no numbers titaniumsalute Dec 2017 #28
But that's not what the voices in his head are telling him... Rollo Dec 2017 #43
Oh, you're beatable alright. Solly Mack Dec 2017 #29
By 2020, we could run a dead polecat and beat him Maeve Dec 2017 #30
Delusional. He won't be around in 2020. lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #31
If they stick him in solitary... kedrys Dec 2017 #33
Can you run an effective campaign from prison? tclambert Dec 2017 #36
Yes. In fact, it's been done. Jim Lane Dec 2017 #40
Yeah, cause he won't be running. Dr_Pretorius Dec 2017 #37
and he might be correct on that point 0rganism Dec 2017 #38
Maybe he's talking about numbers of a different kind. Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #39
Well if he's a bottomless pit of junk food, he won't be alive by then. Crowman2009 Dec 2017 #41
Trump needs to read some Greek tragedies about the downside of hubris... Rollo Dec 2017 #42
Tell it to your cellmate, bubba. moondust Dec 2017 #44
One of the surest signs of an impending stock market crash is when pols start bragging about how Yavin4 Dec 2017 #46
"I'm unhinged in 2017," Trump Declares; "I'm undead in 2018," Trump decleares; etc. n/t Julian Englis Dec 2017 #47
Only if you and your THUGS in Congress suspend the 2020 elections........... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #49

DangerousUrNot

(431 posts)
2. So he is basically banking on the electoral system.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:33 PM
Dec 2017

He knows he lost the majority vote and has done nothing to reverse it. Dems should see that and focus on those key states.

 

2left4u

(186 posts)
6. True
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:39 PM
Dec 2017

Yes we all know.

You tell us all the time how rich you say you are

How innocent you are of any wrong doing

How much smarter you are

How respectful of women you are

How you aren't a useful idiot for Russia

How the tax plan is great for the middle class

Problem for you is the rest of live in reality versus on fantasy island.

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
25. Welcome to DU!
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:28 PM
Dec 2017

"Narcissists have secret lives..They lie effortlessly."

- Linda Martinez-Lewi, PhD..Clinical expert on the Narcissistic Personality

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
8. If Trump is a candidate in 2020, I would be very surprised.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:44 PM
Dec 2017

I don't expect him to survive a full term. Impeachment or resignation in the face of impeachment are his likely fates.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
10. Hey asshole, yes you the narcissistic malignant psychopath, with orange hair that thinks everything
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:46 PM
Dec 2017

your ego is from the almighty high of a pile shit, when you look in the mirror.

You have two issues from your past, first of all your a fucking traitor,,second and this is really important, do you remember this lady:


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-summer-zervos-lawsuit_us_5a2054bae4b0392a4ebc50f6



your going to have to give a deposition in this matter---------------and you are fucked, if this judge deems that you are not above the law, remember that asshole, someone else went through this and he was in office way before you, and it was consensual, yours on the other hand was not---------------


And when she gets through with you, maybe we can bring the Logan ACT against you and your bunch, two have already flipped---------and they are going to fuck you and make you squeal like a pig, (sorry pig's your more intelligent), your big concern asshole are these two issues, they will be coming before 2020, you have to make it through 2018, 2019, 2020


 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
12. If he lasts that long, maybe
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

He's been working on ways to rig the system more. Remember that guy he wants to put in charge of the census.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
15. One of the reasons is whats happening with the markets, whats happening with business"
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:09 PM
Dec 2017
It's we peasants who will take you down.

NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
17. Technically, when he's in solitary, other inmates will not be able to beat him
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

Thus unbeatable. Works for me

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
27. 401Ks are a rip off anyway
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:53 PM
Dec 2017

They only offer a choice of mutual funds chosen by the employer. If those funds don't perform well, and most do worse than index funds, well tough shit. They're worth investing in to get your company match if they offer it. Unless you are able to make the maximum contribution, many folks are better off with a standard or Roth IRA.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
45. It depends on the employer...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:27 AM
Dec 2017

Two employers I had in the 1990's had very good 401k's, with Fidelity. A good choice of solid funds; company stock was not one of the choices (there was an employee stuck purchase plan, however).

Later on I had an employer in 2015 with a horrible 401k plan, with very high fees for basic stuff like index funds, and no company match. I maxed out my contributions anyway, for tax purposes, and rolled them over to a Vanguard IRA as soon as I left the company.

401k's can be good for employees for the following reasons:

1) Much higher contribution limit than IRA's
2) Often the employer will match employee contributions up to a certain point
3) 401K funds have unlimited protection against creditor judgements.

IRA's can be good for individuals because:

1) They do not require an employer involvement
2) There are usually far more investment options with an IRA account, often with lower fees
3) IRA funds as of 2015 are federally protected up to $1 million from creditors. However individual state laws may be higher or lower.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
48. Quite Inaccurate
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:31 AM
Dec 2017

My employer has zero input into available funds, and the selection of choices involves at least 30 options.
Perhaps you were thinking of 401a retirement accounts, not 401k.

All that said, how is getting to save retirement money on a tax deferred basis, a rip-off? Not having to pay interest on earnings and dividends greatly adds to compounding and is quite to the benefit of the saver.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
28. There are no numbers
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 06:07 PM
Dec 2017

No one polls any individual states about 2020 until much later. It would be a waste of money. And what is polled state by state is approval ratings. And they ain't good anywhere for him.

https://morningconsult.com/2017/10/10/trump-approval-dips-in-every-state-though-deep-pockets-of-support-remain/

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
30. By 2020, we could run a dead polecat and beat him
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 06:16 PM
Dec 2017

Of course, by then it may be hard to tell him from a dead polecat....

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
40. Yes. In fact, it's been done.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:10 PM
Dec 2017

Never at the national level, AFAIK, but James Michael Curley did it in Boston:

Curley's first public notoriety came when he was elected to Boston's board of aldermen in 1904 while in prison on a fraud conviction. Curley and an associate, Thomas Curley (no relation), took the civil service exams for postmen in place of two men in their district to help them get the jobs with the federal government. Though the incident gave him a dark reputation in Boston's non-Irish circles, it aided his image among the Irish American working class and poor because they saw him as a man willing to stick his neck out to help those in need. During that election, his campaign slogan was, "he did it for a friend."[19] He would also quickly gain a reputation for taking kickbacks in exchange for his support.[20]


Trump won't be the only rich guy to benefit from his tax heist. He might be able to recycle the "He did it for a friend" slogan.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
38. and he might be correct on that point
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 08:21 PM
Dec 2017

assuming he lasts that long (if he doesn't run in 2020, that kind of makes him unbeatable by default)...
he did an excellent job last year of making the campaign all about him
any discussion of HRC was restricted to her e-mails with a sprinkling of Benghazi
with help from his Russian Troll Farms, the media was saturated with Trump agitprop 24/7
now it has its own momentum - Russian trolls not even necessary
all the focus is on him, one way or another
meanwhile, states' elections infrastructure has not improved nor have soft money sources been regulated, while multiple state legislatures have gone out of their way to make it more difficult for people to vote.
by 2020, thanks to Trump's FCC, the internet will be pay-to-play on a scale we cannot even imagine now; don't count on it for organizing, smart campaigns are probably setting up their phone trees already.

if he survives a legal takedown from Mueller, he will be a formidable opponent regardless of the state of the nation in 2020.

people citing feel-good poll numbers now are walking right into a trap. remember how the corporate media works: if shit is shitty, it's the liberals' fault, and if things are okay, it's because Trump "made it great again." that's what we are up against, that's what we need to overcome, and polls today aren't reflecting events of the next 2-3 years. hell, even when the numbers were current in 2016, they were misleading and flipped on a dime after Comey reintroduced the e-mails.

i don't see signs that our leadership understands this; doesn't mean they don't but i haven't seen any signs.

Yonnie3

(17,442 posts)
39. Maybe he's talking about numbers of a different kind.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 08:29 PM
Dec 2017

The kind people smoke and feel they're unbeatable.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
46. One of the surest signs of an impending stock market crash is when pols start bragging about how
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:32 AM
Dec 2017

well the markets are doing.

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