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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 11:46 AM Nov 2017

Dem. Rep. Rice Continues Call For Conyers To Resign: 'Enough Is Enough'

Source: Talking Points Memo




By MATT SHUHAM Published NOVEMBER 24, 2017 10:16 AM

Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-NY) on Friday continued her call for Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) to resign from Congress following multiple allegations of sexual harassment.

“Conyers says it didn’t happen,” CNN’s Chris Cuomo asked Rice Friday morning. “You say he should resign. Why?”

“Because enough is enough,” Rice replied. “At this point what I am voicing publicly is what every single private citizen is saying across America: Why are the rules for politicians in Washington different than they are for everyone else?”

“And the list is endless,” she continued. “Compare what happened to Harvey Weinstein, Louis C.K., Mark Halperin — all appropriate consequences. And yet once we start getting into the realm of politicians, well, let’s get the ethics commission into it, and let’s investigate this, you know, and take forever to come up with a conclusion.”



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kathleen-rice-calls-on-conyers-to-resign

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Dem. Rep. Rice Continues Call For Conyers To Resign: 'Enough Is Enough' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Yes Rep. Rice, Let's Get An Ethics Investigation Me. Nov 2017 #1
The ridiculously stringent rules to report sexual abuse in Congress is a hint. Ligyron Nov 2017 #2
And TAXPAYER money. And they write the rules so releasing their names isn't legal 7962 Nov 2017 #10
And they get the Capitol Police to harass the victims by investigating them or pressing charges. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #11
Every single private citizen across America? dalton99a Nov 2017 #3
I disagree with her, based on what we now know. spooky3 Nov 2017 #4
Note that she did NOT answer Liberalagogo Nov 2017 #5
Bingo. dalton99a Nov 2017 #6
accuse her anonymously of course. that will get massive support, being secretive and all nt msongs Nov 2017 #20
So you think it's okay to make Liberalagogo Nov 2017 #21
I have to ask why ? DFW Nov 2017 #7
+1 dalton99a Nov 2017 #9
Gregory Meeks and Raul Grijalva know John Conyers pretty well BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #24
Can't wait to see the challengers to this seat. awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #8
She needs one of two things DFW Nov 2017 #12
B Would Suit Me Just Fine Me. Nov 2017 #16
I wonder if she could even produce on A n/t DFW Nov 2017 #17
Even The Accuser Said It Wasn't Sexual Me. Nov 2017 #19
Rice tried to topple Pelosi delisen Nov 2017 #13
Thanks for the reminder. Rice should find another Party to run with. Wwcd Nov 2017 #14
I'm just surprised Liberalagogo Nov 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2017 #15
Carrying water for underweargate ucrdem Nov 2017 #18
That's why I'm supporting the ME TOO Act to unseal all these claims that result in payouts madville Nov 2017 #23

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
2. The ridiculously stringent rules to report sexual abuse in Congress is a hint.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 11:55 AM
Nov 2017

Yet how many millions paid in hush money last year alone?

Musta been really bad whatever it was.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
10. And TAXPAYER money. And they write the rules so releasing their names isn't legal
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 12:28 PM
Nov 2017

As I understand it anyway. If thats not the case, hopefully someone will correct me

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
11. And they get the Capitol Police to harass the victims by investigating them or pressing charges.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 12:49 PM
Nov 2017

Shameful and a disgrace.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
4. I disagree with her, based on what we now know.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 12:01 PM
Nov 2017

The # of accusers of Weinstein, Louis C.K., and Halperin, and the egregiousness of what they did, are not comparable to Conyers’ case. That is why the consequences were more immediate once the dam broke.

There is uncertainty about what happened in the two cases involving Conyers, so an investigation is needed. And the Congress needs to revise its terrible reporting and resolution procedures.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
5. Note that she did NOT answer
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 12:02 PM
Nov 2017

Cuomo's question AT all.

Eff her.

So if I accuse her of harassment, everyone should just take my word for it as the truth? Good to know.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
7. I have to ask why ?
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 12:17 PM
Nov 2017

Republicans get away with everything and no one asks them to resign except us. With Conyers, no one asks him to resign except us.

I mean, granted: another Democratic member of the House may know things that are open secrets among the membership and not to the public, but this is serious stuff. If she has a good reason to ask Conyers to resign, then out with it. If not, then she is following the Republican playbook. I don't want to hear any "well, we in the House all know" crap. WHAT do you know, Rep. Rice? And if you know it for a fact, you didn't get confirmation 48 hours ago. Why have you waited until now to say something? Explain your timing, please.

My brother worked for Conyers decades ago, when he was a young fiery Congressman, and said he was a pistol, and not one whose word was to be countermanded without a VERY good reason. By the time I met him, over 30 years later, he was in his seventies, had suffered a stroke several years before, and was a soft-spoken erudite gentleman. So what do I know? If Rice knows more than I do--and there's no reason why she shouldn't--then put up or shut up. Conveniently timed allegations to distract from Roy Moore do not, on their own, constitute grounds to demand a twenty-term Congressman's resignation. A demand for a fellow Democrat's resignation needs to backed up by more than repeating allegations by people with an opposing agenda. Enough is indeed enough.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
24. Gregory Meeks and Raul Grijalva know John Conyers pretty well
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:11 PM
Nov 2017

And they want him to step down as ranking member of Judiciary while the investigation is ongoing. Seems like the least he could do.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-11-22/conyers-urged-to-step-aside-by-fellow-democrat-meeks-amid-probe

DFW

(54,379 posts)
12. She needs one of two things
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 12:52 PM
Nov 2017

either

A.) Solid, specific, detailed reasons why she thinks Conyers should resign

or

B.) A well-funded primary challenger who does not make such pronouncements.

Either one is fine with me.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
19. Even The Accuser Said It Wasn't Sexual
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 01:55 PM
Nov 2017

He was rude and cranky which might be a by-product of his age. Don't really know but then neither does Rice.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
13. Rice tried to topple Pelosi
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 01:00 PM
Nov 2017

just months ago.

Remember the big cluster of ageism posts here? and the anti-Pelosi posts?

Well Kathleen, due process does take a bit more time than mob rule.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
14. Thanks for the reminder. Rice should find another Party to run with.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 01:06 PM
Nov 2017

She reminds me of others who bash Dems.

Puke

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

madville

(7,410 posts)
23. That's why I'm supporting the ME TOO Act to unseal all these claims that result in payouts
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:23 PM
Nov 2017

Taxpayer-funded payouts at that. It's ridiculous that this behavior is secret and that the government/taxpayers have to pay the settlements without the perpetrators receiving any repercussions.

Rep. Jackie Speier, D-California, is heading it up in the House and it has a lot of bipartisan support already.

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