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pstokely

(10,528 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:14 PM Nov 2017

Papa John's Blames the NFL for Hurting Pizza Sale

Source: Bloomberg

The remarks follow a controversy over NFL football players protesting during the national anthem, a movement that started last season. The demonstrations have sparked calls for a boycott and raised concerns among league sponsors. But Schnatter’s comments mark the highest-profile example of an NFL partner publicly blaming the outcry for hurting business.

Goodell, whose contract is up for renewal, has taken flak for not resolving the controversy more quickly. The flap has even drawn tweets from President Donald Trump, who called for owners to fire or bench players who refuse to stand during “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

“Leadership starts at the top, and this is an example of poor leadership,” Schnatter said.

It’s hard to quantify the connection between the NFL and pizza sales, but Papa John’s did post disappointing results in the latest quarter. Its shares fell as much as 13 percent on Wednesday -- the most in two years -- after same-store sales missed analysts’ estimates. The Louisville, Kentucky-based company also trimmed its revenue and profit forecasts for the year.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-01/papa-john-s-blames-nfl-debacle-for-hurting-sales-of-its-pizza

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Papa John's Blames the NFL for Hurting Pizza Sale (Original Post) pstokely Nov 2017 OP
maybe he should fix the taste. I have it on good authority ( Steven Colbert's) that it tastes Le Gaucher Nov 2017 #1
Your pizza is shit, John Schnatter. DinahMoeHum Nov 2017 #2
Why is it up to sports to give people their dose of the National Anthem and patriotism?? Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #3
That is SUCH BULLSHIT Auggie Nov 2017 #4
Ever consider that your pizza is just shitty? truthisfreedom Nov 2017 #5
Lousy pizza that benefits an asshole is not a winning combination. Laurian Nov 2017 #6
Maybe it's because his pizza is a bunch of baked grease and cardboard. 47of74 Nov 2017 #7
He uses "better" ingredients cyclonefence Nov 2017 #8
"He uses "better" ingredients" Hayduke Bomgarte Nov 2017 #15
PARTAY PIZZA!!! bdtrppr6 Nov 2017 #31
"Better" is a nebulous term at best jmowreader Nov 2017 #40
Try making decent pizza, which doesn't have to be consumed while distracted by games. highplainsdem Nov 2017 #9
Of course it would never occur to Schnatter Hayduke Bomgarte Nov 2017 #10
Papa John's IMO is overpriced and overhyped. mwooldri Nov 2017 #28
Well, his sales are down in Houston because we just got Blaze Pizza TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #11
The NFL should be blaming Papa Johns olddad56 Nov 2017 #12
Of course there is NO mention at all as to why the players are protesting. Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #13
Or no one wants his shitty product IronLionZion Nov 2017 #14
Hmm, area51 Nov 2017 #16
He is a complete asshole. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2017 #17
Fuck him Cold War Spook Nov 2017 #18
Maybe Peyton Manning can come through for them in the clutch underpants Nov 2017 #19
Why isn't he proud of his fellow right wingers boycotting the NFL? keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #20
Cardboard crust, processed cheese and cheap canned sauce The Wizard Nov 2017 #21
His pizza sucks... magicarpet Nov 2017 #22
he hates Obama heaven05 Nov 2017 #23
His sales also went down when he threatened to cut employees hours to avoid providing health care. Marcuse Nov 2017 #24
A MAJOR ASSHOLE vkkv Nov 2017 #25
Bad product and biz model equals bad financial results JDC Nov 2017 #26
The newest marketing ad by Papa Johns. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2017 #27
Priceless!! DoctorJoJo Nov 2017 #29
nearly any other pizza is better... neeksgeek Nov 2017 #30
They suddenly don't like capitalism when... MountCleaners Nov 2017 #36
Ledo's is interested. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #32
Hurt his pizza but not Domino's last quarter?? Bengus81 Nov 2017 #33
That's true MountCleaners Nov 2017 #37
I haven't heard Pizza Hut or Little Caesar's complain, either. Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #41
Perhaps if they didn't put a pound of sugar in the sauce Jake Stern Nov 2017 #34
Ditto everybody. Total asshole can rot... Phentex Nov 2017 #35
Nothing Say Patriotism Like a Pepperoni Pizza! dlk Nov 2017 #38
Blame blame blame, blah blah blah. He who lives as an asshole, suffers the consumer consequences Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #39
KICK for a total IDIOT............ Bengus81 Nov 2017 #42
 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
1. maybe he should fix the taste. I have it on good authority ( Steven Colbert's) that it tastes
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:16 PM
Nov 2017

like a dead racoon's ass

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
6. Lousy pizza that benefits an asshole is not a winning combination.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:19 PM
Nov 2017

I haven't had Papa John's since he started whining about treating his employees like human beings during the Obama administration.

Although they offer delivery in a small town, I prefer better pizza and a little inconvenience to giving this creep any business.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
7. Maybe it's because his pizza is a bunch of baked grease and cardboard.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:19 PM
Nov 2017

Go fuck yourself Schnatter.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
8. He uses "better" ingredients
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:21 PM
Nov 2017

which is reason alone to boycott this fucker. Papa John's was sued for saying that their ingredients are "better" and fucking *won*.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
15. "He uses "better" ingredients"
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017

Yeah, so say his ads. What they don't say is better than what. Better than crap I can find laying around my yard? Better than what falls out the back side of a horse?... Maybe. Better ingredients than the family owned Italian place down the road? Oh hell no. He's priced along with places that actually have excellent pizzas, while he serves up shit that belongs in the frozen dinner section at Kroger's, and even then I'd rather have a "Totino's".

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
40. "Better" is a nebulous term at best
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:19 AM
Nov 2017

Like you said, better than what. The word "better" without elaboration is "marketing malarkey." Obviously his ingredients are better than someone's ingredients; unless he says "better ingredients than Domino's" (in which case he has to prove they are...hard to do when there are only a handful of companies that supply the pizza-chain industry, and Domino's ingredients come from the same pot as Schlatter's) "better" is an essentially-meaningless phrase.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
10. Of course it would never occur to Schnatter
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:35 PM
Nov 2017

That his sales slump may be related to the fact that his pies are, if not outright shit, nothing special. That for about the same money you can get a delicious real pizza from a neighborhood family owned Italian place. Schnatters cowpies would be better priced along the lines of Little Caesars. 5-6 bucks for some cardboard and ketchup with toppings.

Then there is the time Schnatter whined about having to jack up his prices way up to cover the costs of the ACA and lowering his employees hours to 29 a week so he wouldn't have to cover them. Many people will never forget that that. I won't, and because of that alone he'll never make a dime off me, even if he somehow starts making the best pizzas ever.

To me, he shit in his own nest and now he can sit in it.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
28. Papa John's IMO is overpriced and overhyped.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:47 PM
Nov 2017

Domino's is at least better priced, for a similar pie. Cicis is better than Papa John's IMO for taste.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
13. Of course there is NO mention at all as to why the players are protesting.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:55 PM
Nov 2017

I mean, who cares about state-sponsored violence against people throughout the country when there's pizza to sell.

I know that the arc of moral justice is long and that it bends toward justice. I also know that the pendulum always shifts back and forth, but the backlash against jerks like Trump and Papa John can't come soon enough.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
14. Or no one wants his shitty product
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:56 PM
Nov 2017

It's the invisible hand of the free market at work. The consumers have rejected his pizza as there are much better options everywhere. Most any local pizzeria is better. Many grocery stores offer pizza dough or pre-made crusts for those who want to delude themselves into believing it's more constructive to make it at home.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
17. He is a complete asshole.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

The only thing I would like better is to hear that PJ's had gone out of business.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
18. Fuck him
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:46 PM
Nov 2017

When there was talk of raising minimum hourly wage, he made TV ads saying if they did, he would have to fire some of his people.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
21. Cardboard crust, processed cheese and cheap canned sauce
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:04 PM
Nov 2017

is the recipe for bankruptcy. No one around her buys that crap. We have too many family owned and operated pizzerias to even think about PJ's second hand land fill.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
22. His pizza sucks...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:10 PM
Nov 2017

But his economics and his politics suck out loud. He is an extreme right winger fascist who is a greedy glutton.

A saltine cracker with ketchup on it would be more flavor-able than what he passes off as his over priced pizza creation.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. he hates Obama
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:34 PM
Nov 2017

and did/said some disparaging remarks about ACA and his workers and the then Obama--Romney campaigns, if I remember correctly. Another whiny RWer losing his shirt, I hope. I feel/fear for his workers....always the first to go.....At 'retreat' I always lower my countenance now....america is experimenting with disaster...

JDC

(10,129 posts)
26. Bad product and biz model equals bad financial results
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:30 PM
Nov 2017

Maybe his way of reaching the consumer is bad. I watch games on my NFL app a lot. No commercials there. Also, when we order bad pizza, it’s dominos because their app makes it super easy. That is their plan and it’s working. See link:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/03/06/dominos-ceo-reveals-how-it-smoked-the-pizza-competition-last-quarter.html





neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
30. nearly any other pizza is better...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:07 PM
Nov 2017

Could it be that Papa John’s pizza is horrible?

Typical right wing. It’s never their fault.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
33. Hurt his pizza but not Domino's last quarter??
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:20 PM
Nov 2017

Nice of you to try and pin the blame on BLACK NFL players but it won't fly Johnny. You make FUCKING SHITTY pizza bud. I've tried it twice here thinking maybe they just had a bad day or lousy location. Changed store and same crap.

I can get a better FROZEN pizza made by Kroger than your crap Johnny.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
37. That's true
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:40 PM
Nov 2017

If you live in a place without a good Mom n Pop (I live in Chicago - not my problem), you're better off with frozen than with Papa John's or Domino's. Some of those frozen brands aren't bad!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
41. I haven't heard Pizza Hut or Little Caesar's complain, either.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:31 AM
Nov 2017

Sounds like he is just an asshat, and his pizza is overpriced garbage.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
34. Perhaps if they didn't put a pound of sugar in the sauce
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:20 PM
Nov 2017

and tasteless toppings more folks might buy his pizza.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
39. Blame blame blame, blah blah blah. He who lives as an asshole, suffers the consumer consequences
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:43 PM
Nov 2017

of being as asshole, treating employees like dirt and offering an inferior product in the process.

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