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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:44 AM Nov 2017

Six women accuse filmmaker Brett Ratner of sexual harassment or misconduct

Source: LA Times

Natasha Henstridge was watching a movie on Brett Ratner’s couch when she fell asleep. She was a 19-year-old fashion model; he was an up-and-coming music video director in his early 20s. They had been hanging out in front of the TV with friends at his New York apartment.

But when Henstridge woke up, the others had left. She was alone with Ratner. She got up to leave, Henstridge said, but he blocked the doorway with his body and wouldn’t budge. He began touching himself, she said, then forced her to perform oral sex.


“He strong-armed me in a real way. He physically forced himself on me,” she said. “At some point, I gave in and he did his thing.”



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-brett-ratner-allegations-20171101-htmlstory.html

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Six women accuse filmmaker Brett Ratner of sexual harassment or misconduct (Original Post) oberliner Nov 2017 OP
What a piece of shit Botany Nov 2017 #1
And the expose and purge continues IronLionZion Nov 2017 #2
It's sad, though... Saviolo Nov 2017 #4
How do you teach people to be decent? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #6
It's a hard question Saviolo Nov 2017 #7
I didn't think my opinion of Ratner could drop any lower Saviolo Nov 2017 #3
This is just getting started padah513 Nov 2017 #5

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
2. And the expose and purge continues
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

This seems to be very widespread. This should hopefully deter sexual assault if they know they are going to get called out eventually.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
4. It's sad, though...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:12 PM
Nov 2017

Not just sad, deeply and horrifyingly troubling that fear of exposure might deter sexual assault, instead of, y'know, just being decent people that don't assault women. Fear of being caught is a bigger deterrent than the fact that sexual assault is just deeply and unambiguously wrong.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
6. How do you teach people to be decent?
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:14 PM
Nov 2017

That's a serious question. There is a lot of environmental and inherent human urges that teach people to be indecent. Look at our president who made his entire career about screwing over other people and being an asshole. Assholes have been rewarded for being indecent, and it encourages more of it.

That's why we need a deterrent not just hope that people will be decent. Indecent people exist and we don't know who they are until they do something. Ask any feminist. Any male is a potential threat to some.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
7. It's a hard question
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:45 PM
Nov 2017

As you said, with so many external influences that are pushing people to be gross, it's hard to instill those values in them.

Reaching boys about consent earlier would be a start. Some worrying articles:
https://www.bustle.com/articles/118139-4-statistics-that-prove-we-need-to-teach-people-about-consent
http://canadianwomen.org/press-consent%20%20
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-men-are-trained-to-think-sexual-assault-no-big-deal/

Teaching boys not to rape seems like a more decent strategy than teaching women that they must defend themselves from men because that's "just how men are" or "boys being boys."

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
3. I didn't think my opinion of Ratner could drop any lower
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:09 PM
Nov 2017

But there we are! Every interview I've ever seen with the dude, everything I've ever read has made me feel like he's the worst sort of bro, and this just cements my opinion with finality.

Peace out, bruh. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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