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Eugene

(61,964 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:16 PM Oct 2017

Trump says he will shrink Bears Ears National Monument, a sacred tribal site in Utah

Source: Washington Post

By Juliet Eilperin and Darryl Fears October 27 at 2:34 PM

President Trump informed Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) Friday that he will shrink Bears Ears National Monument, a 1.35 million-acre protected area in southeast Utah that is prized by many tribal leaders but opposed by several state and federal Republican officials.

“I’m approving the Bears Ears recommendation for you, Orrin,” Trump told the senator in a phone call Friday morning, according to Hatch’s office, just before Hatch stepped onstage for an event on women in technology in Utah.

In late August, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke recommended paring back the boundaries of Bears Ears and asking Congress to make less-restrictive designations within it, “such as national recreation areas or national conservation areas.” The monument, which contains tens of thousands of cultural artifacts, has become the most prominent symbol of controversy surrounding the 1906 Antiquities Act.

In the report, Zinke proposed cutting the size of between four and six national monuments established by Trump’s predecessors, and changing the way another six would be managed.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/10/27/trump-says-he-will-shrink-bears-ears-national-monument-a-sacred-tribal-site-in-utah/

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Trump says he will shrink Bears Ears National Monument, a sacred tribal site in Utah (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2017 OP
How is that legal? Bayard Oct 2017 #1
These stones--- did they lay on the ground and grain was ground in a hollow in the middle?? Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #2
Yes Bayard Oct 2017 #6
But it's not sacred to the 'right' religion. keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #3
Shouldn't matter which religion it's sacred to. Igel Oct 2017 #9
It probably is sacred to the "right" religion jmowreader Oct 2017 #10
Again a "malignant normality" speaking to another "malignant normality" and there turbinetree Oct 2017 #4
He can't do it legally. SUWA will file suit and trump will lose. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #5
getting very fustrated this asshole bluestarone Oct 2017 #7
I would like to laugh at these fools who put money ahead of the planet. logosoco Oct 2017 #8
"I like bears whose ears aren't monuments. #Yogi" WinkyDink Oct 2017 #11

Bayard

(22,168 posts)
1. How is that legal?
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:48 PM
Oct 2017

Especially containing that many artifacts. Of course, nothing is sacred to tRump.

Don't know if it was a state or federal law, but when I lived in CA, I had a number of old Mono tribe grinding stones around my farm. My little farmhouse was 100+ years old, but any new construction in the area had to be a certain distance from any artifacts.

Bayard

(22,168 posts)
6. Yes
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 07:36 PM
Oct 2017

Some in fairly big boulders. One right in my back yard.

The Mono natives would go up to higher elevation in summer in what is now King's Canyon and Sequoia Nat'l Parks. Then in the winter, they would travel down to our elevation, about 2,000 feet.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
9. Shouldn't matter which religion it's sacred to.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:14 PM
Oct 2017

It's land owned by a secular government.

Native American faiths are no more the "right" religion and less subject to the Establishment Clause than European or Asian faiths. One bias is no more meritorious than the other.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
10. It probably is sacred to the "right" religion
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 04:33 PM
Oct 2017

My guess is, there's oil under the parts Trump is going to cut out of the Monument.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
4. Again a "malignant normality" speaking to another "malignant normality" and there
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 05:01 PM
Oct 2017

f*cking Manifest Destiny BS..


“I’m approving the Bears Ears recommendation for you, Orrin,” Trump told the senator in a phone call Friday morning, according to Hatch’s office, just before Hatch stepped onstage for an event on women in technology in Utah. "











logosoco

(3,208 posts)
8. I would like to laugh at these fools who put money ahead of the planet.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:27 AM
Oct 2017

But instead, it makes me cry.

They put such a store on the Bible, which has a lot of ugly human stuff in it, but when it comes to the beautiful earth that we all came from and are connected to, they treat it like trash.

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