Undocumented teen gets abortion before Trump can appeal

[demmiblue]

Source: The Hill

The undocumented teen in federal custody at the center of an abortion battle had the procedure Wednesday morning before the Trump administration could appeal a lower court's ruling to the Supreme Court.

The American Civil Liberties Union tweeted that the 17-year-old, known only in court documents as Jane Doe, had the abortion early this morning.

BREAKING: Justice prevailed today for Jane Doe. She was able to get an abortion early this morning. #JusticeforJane
— ACLU (@ACLU) October 25, 2017

“Make no mistake, the Trump administration's efforts to interfere in women's decisions won't stop with Jane Doe. We will not stop fighting until every woman has access to abortion care. #JusticeforJane,” the organization said in a subsequent tweet.

Read more: http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/357081-undocumented-teen-gets-abortion-before-trump-can-appeal

[lark]

1. So glad #JUSTICEFORJANE prevailed!

Only good piece of news I've had on this terrible awful day for me.

[Jim__]

2. Good news!

[katmondoo]

35. yes! Good News!!

[Faux pas]

3. Yes!

[George II]

4. I'm not in favor of abortion, but totally in favor of the woman making the decision...

...not some bloated old man in Washington.

[avebury]

27. It is bad enough that they guy try to circumvent the girl's

right to make that decision but he also does not even believe in birth control at all.

[not fooled]

44. And then

they were gonna deport the girl and baby.



Love the fetus, hate the child (and mother). Thwarted, this time.

[avebury]

57. I don't see how they could have deported the baby

if she gave birth in the US. They would have been responsible for creating an anchor baby and thus a US citizen.

[localroger]

63. They were planning to deport her before she could give birth.

Doesn't take much time nowadays, and she would be 6 months from delivery if she carried it to term.

[Hekate]

59. If it helps you feel any better about it you can refer to it as: "the full spectrum of legal and...

...appropriate women's health care".

That puts it squarely where it belongs in the legal and medical spheres. Can you imagine a man going to his doctor, being advised he has a couple of severely clogged arteries, telling the doc he wants heart surgery, and being told that heart surgery is messy and icky and the doctor doesn't "believe" in the procedure?

[susanna]

66. Oh, Amen, sister. Imagine THAT blowback. n/t

[truthisfreedom]

5. Cue the manufactured outrage in 3... 2... 1...

Repukes secretly want abortions for their mistresses but don't want young desperate women to have access. It is all part of republican punching down.

[Eliot Rosewater]

6. Abortion is a medical procedure that no man or government should ever have any say in

whatsoever.

But, because of certain things happening, they will now or soon have a lot to say about it.

All bad, too.

Birth control too.

[AtheistCrusader]

39. Careful with those absolutes. Like law, they are unforgiving.

I can certainly think of one instance where a man should have a say.

[Eliot Rosewater]

40. I cant think of one

[AtheistCrusader]

41. There was a recent case in dallas. The husband was trying to fulfill the wife's wishes.

She'd had an aneurism and was brain dead. She wished to be removed from life support in that condition. They ran afoul of some of the Texas anti-abortion law shenanigans wherein they try to make a fetus a 'person' with rights, so as to curtail abortions. The state wanted to keep her corpse on life support until the fetus could be delivered.

The husband (with her family's backing) had to sue the state to carry out her wishes.

To me that's a valid instance of a man having a credible 'say' in terminating a pregnancy (effectively). And props to the man in that case, because he was actually carrying out her wishes against the full force of the state. Such is not always the case.

[Eliot Rosewater]

46. I of course didnt mean this type of extremely rare situation and

the man is not getting his way, he is getting her way for her.

But technically yes, that is a case where the man is fulfilling the wish of the ONLY person who should have ANY say in it.

[AtheistCrusader]

48. That's what I mean by absolutes though.

This was an INCREDIBLY edge case, and the end result of the law as crafted, resulted in an INCREDIBLY cruel outcome.

All borne out of the conservative right wing increment-alist assault upon abortion.


I can't think of any exceptions to your last sentence. Edge case or otherwise.

[demmiblue]

7. ACLU link:

After a Month of Obstruction by the Trump Administration, Jane Doe Gets Her Abortion

October 25, 2017

WASHINGTON — After more than a month after she made her decision, Jane Doe was able to obtain an abortion this morning. She was able to get the abortion care after an appeals court in Washington, D.C., issued a decision late yesterday, clearing the way for a federal district court to issue an order requiring the Trump Administration to stop blocking her access and to allow her to get the care she requested.

Brigitte Amiri, senior staff attorney with the ACLU Reproductive Freedom Project, had this reaction:

“Justice prevailed today for Jane Doe. But make no mistake about it, the Administration's efforts to interfere in women's decisions won't stop with Jane,” said Brigitte Amiri, senior staff attorney with the ACLU Reproductive Freedom Project. “With this case we have seen the astounding lengths this administration will go to block women from abortion care. We will not stop fighting until we have justice for every woman like Jane.”

https://www.aclu.org/news/after-month-obstruction-trump-administration-jane-doe-gets-her-abortion

Justice has prevailed!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

18. 👏🏾❤️👍🏾

Good! She deserves a better future, as all women do.

[iluvtennis]

64. Ditto.

[SummerSnow]

8. Do you think they will lock her up?

[Hekate]

60. The poor girl is already locked up

[Irish_Dem]

9. I'm in shock that we are still fighting this SH*T. We are back to the 1960s.

Women's rights keep getting rolled back.

If you can keep women pregnant all the time, they are stuck at home.

[AtheistCrusader]

42. Not quite.

But we will be soon if we stop fighting.
It would be nice to get a win here or there...

[Irish_Dem]

53. My point is that we already thought we won this battle. nt

[not fooled]

49. My suspicion

is that the Nazis running this country have a master plan (joke intended since these people are nuts) to return the U.S.A. to majority-white status. Part of this scheme is increasing the white birthrate. Consequently, they want to end access to contraception and abortions--they want white women to reproduce more.

[Irish_Dem]

54. I have suspected this for some time. Also woman being pregnant all the time keeps them 2nd class

citizens. Without birth control or abortions, women get pregnant every year or so.
Hard to have a life with huge families.

It does really sound like Nazis come back to life.

[SunSeeker]

10. Good. nt

[irisblue]

11. Her Body Her Choice You don't like abortion, don't have one. nt

[hamsterjill]

13. +1000

End of story.

[MyOwnPeace]

12. Reminds me.....

of the F**KERS that were involved with the Terri Schiavo case in Florida. The GOVERNMENT has NO business in these right-to-life or right-to-die cases!
The case in Florida included government people like Jeb Bush, "W" Bush, and, of course (can't keep his nose where it belongs) Ricky Santorum (whose wife, by the way, prior to marrying Ricky, had been the live-in girlfriend of a prominent "right-to-choose" doctor).
They had NO business being involved in the Schiavo case, and TRUMP and the rest of his mindless gang had NO business being involved in this case!

MY GOD, why do these mad, EVIL people want so many to suffer?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

20. Whaddaya mean? Those mad, evil people aren't suffering.

So what's the problem?


/sarcasm

[justhanginon]

14. Glad to hear this. I really hope there is no way they can cause this young lady

I really hope there is no way they can cause this young lady any problems down the road.
Support Planned Parenthood!

[Gothmog]

15. Yeah-trump would have appealed and tried to prevent this young lady from exercising her rights

[ehrnst]

16. There is no sense forcing any woman, let alone a minor, to bear a child.

That's the alternative to legal abortion - legally enforced non-consentual childbearing.

[AtheistCrusader]

43. Texas tried to force a corpse to have a child.

I shit you not.

[ehrnst]

45. I remember. (nt)

[C Moon]

17. Great news. And I'll bet that got his water boiling.

[Paladin]

19. Eat shit and die, Dan Patrick (Lt. Governor of TX). (nt)

[MFM008]

21. No abortion

Unless your republican boyfriend orders it.

[Wounded Bear]

25. We all wish that statement really was sarcasm...

For far too many women, it is becoming the "normal" condition.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

62. That's exactly correct.

God I hate Republicans. More and more every day they prove they inhabit the utter depths of depravity.

[Ellen Forradalom]

22. What a trauma for the young woman involved

To be young, pregnant, in federal custody, and to have her most personal decision at the center of a nationally-publicized legal battle. My heart aches for her.

[Cold War Spook]

23. Trump on Meet the Press Oct. 29, 1999

Trump "I'm very pro choice." "I hate the concept of abortion" "I am pro choice." Questions to Trump, would you ban abortion? Trump "no" would you ban partial abortion? "no" Who is the real Trump, then or now.

[onecent]

24. Good!!!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

26. Good but I'm afraid this won't be the end of it.

I don't put it past them to charge her with murder now.

[TeapotInATempest]

28. But how? This is a *legal* medical procedure.

Why do so many people (not you, I'm sure) forget that abortion is a matter of settled law, having been decided by the Supreme Court over 40 years ago??

[50 Shades Of Blue]

34. How do you think? This is the Trump administration we're talking about.

She foiled them. Think they're going to let her get away with it? They don't give a shit about what's settled law.

[procon]

29. At least Trump won't be able to use this young woman as a political pawn,

victimizing her again just to score points off her plight. My heart goes out to her, she's alone, stuck in a foreign country, imprisoned, and the evil Republicans are using the state to try to force a pregnancy on her that she did not want.

[not fooled]

47. I wonder

how/when did she get pregnant? I admit to not following the story closely, but did she become pregnant while in custody?

[NastyRiffraff]

30. Good for her for moving quickly

The TrumpVillains were hoping to drag this out past 20 weeks so her abortion would be illegal. I'm glad she made it.

[Gothmog]

31. From my twitter feed

Link to tweet

[DLevine]

32. Good news. nt

[Leith]

33. What Was That They Were Saying about Not Letting a Govt Bureaucrat

get between a patient and doctor?

Fuckin' hypocrites!

[Hulk]

36. And if these "moral hypocrites" are concerned about the "late stage"...

...of this abortion - they should have allowed it weeks earlier...the ugly bastards.

This country is fucked so long as these religious fruitcakes have ANY say in government policy and we have this spoiled jackass in the drivers seat.

[Hamlette]

37. So, if the GOP got its way, she'd have the child and be deported leaving the child here

as the child would be a US citizen and might not be able to live elsewhere. So the child gets adopted or lives in foster homes or in poverty.

[StevieM]

56. They definitely would not have let her take the baby home with her.

They would have declared that her desire for an abortion proved that she was an unfit mother and terminated her parental rights.

[Sunlei]

38. Is their any USA org or group to help adopt these minor undocumented persons? To 'live' in prisons

as a minor, alone- it just breaks my heart.

[usaf-vet]

50. Glad Jane Doe got to decide what she did (does) with her body.

IMO the ACLU is needed more today than any other time in my 70 years.

[wryter2000]

51. Thank goodness

I was afraid they were going to screw her over.

[rurallib]

52. Was the father ever identified in this case?

Was listening to Hartmann in transit today and the question came up. No one seemed to know. One caller said the girl was impregnated while in custody. If so would that point to a guard?

I am so glad she was able to get the abortion. Am hoping she can somehow be returned to the US.

[Princess Turandot]

55. According to the court papers, she was already pregnant when she came to the US..

She was taken into custody in early September at the US border. She subsequently had a physical exam that determined that she was pregnant; the date that happened was estimated to be at the beginning of July 2017.

Had she gotten pregnant while in custody, she would have been far less along, and the 20 week deadline for an abortion in Tx would not have been looming as ominously (as of yet).

[rurallib]

61. Thank you very much

[Hekate]

58. Thank the Goddess for this

[trueblue2007]

65. keep your slimy hands off my body donald rump !!!! #JusticeforJane