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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,457 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:45 AM Oct 2017

Buildings Across U.S. Are Wrapped in Same Panels That Fueled Deadly London Fire

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Buildings Across U.S. Are Wrapped in Same Panels That Fueled Deadly London Fire

Experts say polyethylene-core panels, under investigation in the Grenfell Tower fire, endanger people in apartments, offices and hotels

By Scott Calvert in Baltimore, Bob Tita in Chicago, Rachel Pannett in Sydney and Nikhil Lohade in Dubai

Oct. 24, 2017 11:14 a.m. ET

A high school in Alaska, a National Football League stadium, a Baltimore high-rise hotel and a Dallas airport terminal are among thousands of structures world-wide covered in combustible-core panels similar to those that burned in June’s deadly London fire, The Wall Street Journal found.

Safety improvements to building interiors over the past 40 years have helped cut the number of structure fires and related deaths in the U.S. by roughly half, a remarkable victory over one of civilization’s oldest threats.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/built-to-burn-thousands-of-buildings-world-wide-are-wrapped-in-combustible-panels-1508858048



"Combustible Panels Pose a Global Danger"

That's the print title of article in this morning's The Wall Street Journal. It's on the front page, below the fold. It's subscription. I'll do what I can.

Full disclosure: I own shares of Alcoa.

Retweeted by Scott Calvert: https://twitter.com/scottmcalvert

Combustible-core panels that cover high-rise buildings pose a hidden danger to people living and working inside



At manufacturer's request, the U.S.'s fire safety code was weakened 5 years ago for more use of combustible panels.




https://www.wsj.com/articles/built-to-burn-thousands-of-buildings-world-wide-are-wrapped-in-combustible-panels-1508858048?mod=e2tw

or

https://www.wsj.com/articles/built-to-burn-thousands-of-buildings-world-wide-are-wrapped-in-combustible-panels-1508858048

Buildings Across U.S. Are Wrapped in Same Panels That Fueled Deadly London Fire

Experts say polyethylene-core panels, under investigation in the Grenfell Tower fire, endanger people in apartments, offices and hotels

By Scott Calvert in Baltimore, Bob Tita in Chicago, Rachel Pannett in Sydney and Nikhil Lohade in Dubai

https://twitter.com/scottmcalvert

https://twitter.com/bob_tita
robert.tita@wsj.com

https://twitter.com/RachelPannett
rachel.pannett@wsj.com

https://twitter.com/lohadenikhil
nikhil.lohade@wsj.com

Oct. 24, 2017 11:14 a.m. ET

A high school in Alaska, a National Football League stadium, a Baltimore high-rise hotel and a Dallas airport terminal are among thousands of structures world-wide covered in combustible-core panels similar to those that burned in June’s deadly London fire, The Wall Street Journal found.

Safety improvements to building interiors over the past 40 years have helped cut the number of structure fires and related deaths in the U.S. by roughly half, a remarkable victory over one of civilization’s oldest threats.
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Buildings Across U.S. Are Wrapped in Same Panels That Fueled Deadly London Fire (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 OP
I don't know building code in California... yallerdawg Oct 2017 #1
I still think rock wool and fiberglass are the best lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #2
TWSJ., July: Baltimore Doesn't Know If Hotel Uses Combustible Panels mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 #3
Here in the U.S.A. it always seems our first response is "We're better than that!" hunter Oct 2017 #4

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. I don't know building code in California...
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:51 AM
Oct 2017

but in the aftermath of these huge wildfires, it looks like 'kindling' is an essential material.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. I still think rock wool and fiberglass are the best
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:04 AM
Oct 2017

Sure, you can talk about fibers in the air, etc, but these materials are sealed inside walls. The health benefits of reduced pollution for heating/cooling surely outweigh the tiny amount of leakage that might occur. And fire is very unhealthy indeed.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,457 posts)
3. TWSJ., July: Baltimore Doesn't Know If Hotel Uses Combustible Panels
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 12:42 PM
Oct 2017
Baltimore Doesn’t Know If Hotel Uses Combustible Panels

Company that made the type of material that burned in London says it also wraps the Marriott Waterfront

By Scott Calvert and Bob Tita

https://twitter.com/scottmcalvert

https://twitter.com/bob_tita
robert.tita@wsj.com

Updated July 11, 2017 1:40 p.m. ET

The company that made the combustible panels used on the London housing tower where a fast-moving fire killed at least 80 people says the same type wraps one of Baltimore’s most prominent hotels: the 32-story Marriott Waterfront overlooking the city’s Inner Harbor.

But Baltimore officials say they aren’t sure what is on the hotel because they never asked the architects for details about the hotel’s exterior panels. Two of the...

hunter

(38,313 posts)
4. Here in the U.S.A. it always seems our first response is "We're better than that!"
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 10:39 AM
Oct 2017

Then a few weeks or months later it's reported, somewhere in the back pages, "no, we're not..."

U.S. American exceptionalism.

I'm guessing every place that used these flammable panels has had a chance to speak with their lawyers and suddenly they know nothing.

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