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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:30 AM Oct 2017

Steve Scalise says mass shootings are the cost of the Second Amendment

Source: Think Progress

Just weeks after his return to Congress following life-threatening injuries sustained from a shooting at a congressional baseball practice over the summer, Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) appeared on Fox News Tuesday morning to defend the Second Amendment, claiming that deadly shootings were the price of freedom.

During a Fox & Friends interview, Scalise was specifically asked how he felt about gun control given that he himself had been shot and given the recent shooting in Las Vegas that left 58 people dead and scores more injured.

“It’s what our Founding Fathers envisioned. If you go and look at the writings of our Founding Fathers, they believe strongly in the rights of people to arm themselves for self-defense,” said Scalise. “And that’s something that’s still strong today, and you see threats against it.”



Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/steve-scalise-says-mass-shootings-are-the-cost-of-the-second-amendment-3a114eeb1c33/



Hey Scalise, your an asshole, just maybe asshole, you should go back and read the "notes" from the various conventions the founding individuals had and what there intentions meant when it came to the second amendment, they did not asshole and I repeat Asshole with a capital A, envision that mass murder would be a fucking norm, they envisioned asshole that the militia would be well regulated with guns from invasion and to help with the slavery issue, because asshole there was a African-American uprising

You are basically saying that the population must live in a state of fear, hate and has for comments on Jefferson and Adams------------------your full of right wing shit, your ilk always use Jefferson and now Adams, to back your claim



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Steve Scalise says mass shootings are the cost of the Second Amendment (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2017 OP
Mass shootings are the cost of misinterpreting the 2nd Amendment groundloop Oct 2017 #1
Maybe this time they went too far. greymattermom Oct 2017 #13
There is no such thing as "too far" for Republicans PJMcK Oct 2017 #20
+1 Yes the 2nd Amendment was never about personal ownership of firearms FakeNoose Oct 2017 #15
The ritual blood sacrifice mitch96 Oct 2017 #29
They did not envision the weapons capabilities available today Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #2
'for self-defense!!!' elleng Oct 2017 #3
"Freedumb isn't free..." nt ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #4
Here they come... Kingofalldems Oct 2017 #5
Apparently that is their new talking point Bettie Oct 2017 #6
Then it might be time to either rewrite it or eliminate it. sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #7
eliminating it would be helpful bdamomma Oct 2017 #14
The callousness of these guys is amazing awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #8
I would say it's karma if he gets shot again. What a shitbag. kysrsoze Oct 2017 #9
Of course he is absolutely correct about that Sucha NastyWoman Oct 2017 #10
and you can bet they are thinking of the odds being in their favor treestar Oct 2017 #21
European countries have about 1 mass-shooting per year. DetlefK Oct 2017 #11
Hey, Mr. Scalise! SnowCritter Oct 2017 #12
America has been kidnapped by the NRA and is experiencing a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome. Initech Oct 2017 #16
I'll take "People Who Learned Absolutely Nothing from Life Experiences" for $500, Alex. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #17
No you wont jmowreader Oct 2017 #36
This confirms that his balls were shot off elehhhhna Oct 2017 #18
At least they are admitting it treestar Oct 2017 #19
What Did The NRA Promise Scalise?.... global1 Oct 2017 #22
Can someone explain this logic to me? Yavin4 Oct 2017 #23
Does that mean we can sue him for lack of payment? Deb Oct 2017 #24
Poor man, a closed head trauma impairs judgement and cognitive abilities, where are his minders? nt procon Oct 2017 #25
So happy snowybirdie Oct 2017 #26
The price of freedom? No, they are the cost of fear. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #27
Then the price is too high rainy Oct 2017 #28
It is a price we need to stop paying. LonePirate Oct 2017 #30
A. No they didn't B. Scariest has no clue on the context or the times underpants Oct 2017 #31
Deadly shootings are the price of freedom? How can you be free if you are dead? Justice Oct 2017 #32
Scalise is correct about this, unfortunately. Paladin Oct 2017 #33
And how many victims can get the kind of tretment that he got? question everything Oct 2017 #34
Scalise is an idiot ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #35
This is total bullshit jmowreader Oct 2017 #37
Asshole BeyondGeography Oct 2017 #38
Men with little boy brains that like to hear things go bang bang. Simple minds indeed. YOHABLO Oct 2017 #39
Then the price is too high. Repeal the second amendment. Vinca Oct 2017 #40
How about Congress amend The Wizard Oct 2017 #41
O'Reilly says mass killings are the price of freedom. Same BS. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #42
damn shame RussBLib Oct 2017 #43
When the 2nd amendment was written, there were no mass shootings TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #44
I agree. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #45

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
1. Mass shootings are the cost of misinterpreting the 2nd Amendment
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:34 AM
Oct 2017

That motherfucker needs to be run out of office for suggesting that it's ok that thousands of people are murdered every year just so that everyone has unfettered access to killing machines.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
13. Maybe this time they went too far.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:50 AM
Oct 2017

If everyone has a gun, mass shootings by the crazy will increase, and no one can be the good guy with a gun if the shooter is in a high rise building shooting at folks on the ground with a "semi" automatic rifle.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
20. There is no such thing as "too far" for Republicans
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Oct 2017

If the murder of 20 children and 6 of their teachers doesn't change their minds, the murder of 58 and 500 injuries won't change them, either.

Likewise, there is no "bottom" to Trump's behavior that will change their minds. Trump was right that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his base would stand by him.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
15. +1 Yes the 2nd Amendment was never about personal ownership of firearms
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

We need a SCOTUS that can grow some balls and strike down this incorrect ruling.



mitch96

(13,911 posts)
29. The ritual blood sacrifice
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:10 PM
Oct 2017

to the NRA and the second amendment...
After what happened to him, he comes out with this shit.. Prolly gonna get a good chunk of re-election cash from the military industrial complex...
m

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
6. Apparently that is their new talking point
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:39 AM
Oct 2017

I've heard it twice now...him and O'Reilly.

And both of my brothers (who are gun nuts) posted it.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
14. eliminating it would be helpful
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

again we have a National Guard who is our militia.

I think they really want Americans to be killed off by guns, but then again this filthy congress is killing innocent Americans with no healthcare.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
8. The callousness of these guys is amazing
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017

I knew this POS would not change one iota from his bout with death.

Sounds like he feels empowered by it now. Unfortunately, he appears to be in a very safe district so we're stuck with the a-hole for a while.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
10. Of course he is absolutely correct about that
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017

Mass shootings are the cost of the second amendment that can be so loosely interpreted as to enable the worst of us to wreak havoc on the rest of us.

The only difference between us and them is that we think that cost is too high, they don't.

Living in Texas, I see this all the time. A certain number of people will die as a trade off for such causes as free enterprise (ex: West, Texas explosion) and not having to spend tax dollars on things that don't benefit the wealthy/powerful (ex:not expanding Medicaid).

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. and you can bet they are thinking of the odds being in their favor
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Oct 2017

other people will most likely pay the price, so it's OK with them. Sick bastards.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
11. European countries have about 1 mass-shooting per year.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:48 AM
Oct 2017

Since 2000, there have been 5 mass-shootings in Germany, ranging from 6 to 17 dead people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Germany
Does that mean, they have less freedom?

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
12. Hey, Mr. Scalise!
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:48 AM
Oct 2017

No price it too high when you don't have to pay it.
If you *do* have to pay it then the price is way too high.

There are way too many men, women, and children who have died in mass shootings - the so-called "price" of freedom. Lives cut short and potential unreached. And it's a price we will keep on paying because Republicans simply refuse to do anything about it. How much innocent blood needs to be spent before Republicans realize that the price is too high?

Initech

(100,080 posts)
16. America has been kidnapped by the NRA and is experiencing a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:57 AM
Oct 2017

Our addiction to the almighty gun knows no boundaries.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. At least they are admitting it
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:09 AM
Oct 2017

I would wonder if they have the guts to say that to the survivors of the victims.

That's what his shooting is, too. And if he has any guts, he should admit he is willing to die for it or to have his descendants die for it.

If that's the price, the victims should be treated like fallen soldiers. People who gave their live for "freedom."

global1

(25,252 posts)
22. What Did The NRA Promise Scalise?....
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:22 AM
Oct 2017

All the money he needs for re-election? A perpetual House seat? To make him a Senator? I've got to believe he is being paid off by the NRA to not mess with guns.

Watch Scalise's campaign donations very closely going forward.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
23. Can someone explain this logic to me?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:24 AM
Oct 2017

Mass shootings are just something that we have to live with, so get over it. However, when it is mass killings by terrorists citing Islam, we have to go war overseas and invade everyone's privacy in order to stop it.

snowybirdie

(5,229 posts)
26. So happy
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:52 AM
Oct 2017

the representative has all that good healthcare that saved his life and for which he doesn't have to pay for

rainy

(6,092 posts)
28. Then the price is too high
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:01 PM
Oct 2017

I’m not willing to pay so scrap the 2nd amendment or heavily regulate guns in this country!

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
33. Scalise is correct about this, unfortunately.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:33 PM
Oct 2017

Long ago, the pro-gun movement adopted an "Other People Dying For Our Freedoms" philosophy.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
34. And how many victims can get the kind of tretment that he got?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:40 PM
Oct 2017

With multiple surgeries paid by, whom, exactly?

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
35. Scalise is an idiot
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:51 PM
Oct 2017

But there's nothing in the 2d Amendment, or Scalia's interpretation of it, that prevents significant action on the gun control front, including an assault weapon ban. There's simply no the political backing for it.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
37. This is total bullshit
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:06 PM
Oct 2017

There is a huge difference between self-defense and mass murder. The Second Amendment does not say, “Mass murder being necessary to the security of a free state...” because it’s not.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
41. How about Congress amend
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:39 PM
Oct 2017

the Second Amendment to reflect modernity. How much different are the Second Amendment worshipers than the Taliban?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
44. When the 2nd amendment was written, there were no mass shootings
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:09 PM
Oct 2017

Since they are a pretty common occurence now, it seems that an update is appropriate.

I wonder if his family feels the same way, since they aren't whores for the NRA like Steve.

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