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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:10 AM Oct 2017

Hurricane Ophelia: 120,000 without power as monster storm hits

Source: Irish Times

Some 120,000 homes are without power on Monday as Hurricane Ophelia sweeps in over Ireland with damaging gusts and heavy rainfall.

Members of the public have been advised to stay inside and not to make unnecessary journeys as the worst storm the country has seen in more than 50 years passes over. Public transport services have been cancelled countrywide and there have been a series of road closures, including the M8 motorway.

As of 12 noon, approximately 120,000 electricity customers were without power, with the main areas impacted in the southern half of the country including Counties Kerry, Cork, Tipperary, Waterford, Wexford and Limerick. There are widerspread reports from the counties of fallen trees and blocked road with the extreme weather moves through the southwest and southeast.

The storm winds have hit the south-west and south Leinster and are moving quickly up across the country. Met Éireann is warning that violent and destructive gusts of 120km/h are expected countrywide and that winds could exceed these value in some exposed and coastal areas. It has reported gusts as high as 156 km/h at Roches Point in Cork .

Read more: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/hurricane-ophelia-120-000-without-power-as-monster-storm-hits-1.3257434

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Hurricane Ophelia: 120,000 without power as monster storm hits (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
Hurricanes in Ireland in mid October? Botany Oct 2017 #1
hurricane ophelia johnnylol Oct 2017 #2
That's how they get you Pugster Oct 2017 #4
Maybe Ophelia is no longer a hurricane but it is still Category 1 csziggy Oct 2017 #6
Right but the storm should have lost much of strength (not rain) by the time ... Botany Oct 2017 #7
There's potentially another hurricane coming on Friday. OnDoutside Oct 2017 #9
Yes, but we saw the massive damage that Sandy did on the east coast. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #14
It's journalistic shorthand/common parlance vs. technical, and you misunderstand it. Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #16
hurricane ophelia johnnylol Oct 2017 #17
I don't know what you're relying on for your definition. Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #18
I'm stuck in London tonight as all flights to Cork are cancelled. OnDoutside Oct 2017 #3
Ireland has pretty much shut down for the day. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #5
Yes, 2 already dead. Needless deaths too unfortunately. OnDoutside Oct 2017 #8
Just terrible. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #12
More information here OnDoutside Oct 2017 #10
385,000 without power now, and a 3rd death. OnDoutside Oct 2017 #11
School roof seen flying through the air muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #13
I think this is a different camera angle on that: Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #19
I didnt even know Ireland could get hurricanes. D: romanic Oct 2017 #15
The Whole North Atlantic Is Going Nutso Right Now Leith Oct 2017 #20
 

johnnylol

(31 posts)
2. hurricane ophelia
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 09:27 AM
Oct 2017

misleading title ophelia is no longer a hurricane it transitioned into a post tropical cyclone,, sort of what sandy did on the east coast.. powerful storm yes but no longer a hurricane...

 

Pugster

(229 posts)
4. That's how they get you
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 10:36 AM
Oct 2017

Talk about a hurricane in the title, then say, "by the way, it's not a hurricane".

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
6. Maybe Ophelia is no longer a hurricane but it is still Category 1
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017
Post-Tropical Cyclone Ophelia
Storm Details
Last Updated: Oct 16, 2017, 3:00:00 AM GMT
Location: 49.2 N 13.3 W
Movement: N
Wind: 85 mph
Pressure: 28.62 in
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/post-tropical-cyclone-ophelia


That is stronger than Hurricane Hermine was when it hit the Big Bend region of North Florida last fall - Hermine's top wind speeds was only 80 mph. Even so Hermine did a lot of damage to this area:

In Leon County, where the state capital Tallahassee is, 57% of homes lost power,[42] including approximately 80% of the city proper, as well as Florida State University.[27] Of the 145,000 homes and businesses that lost electricity, 3,685 were still without power six days after the storm.[59] Strong winds in the Tallahassee area caused trees to fall onto several houses, injuring a number of people.[27] Hermine was the first hurricane to directly affect the city since Hurricane Kate in 1985.[42] Throughout Leon County, 45 homes or businesses were destroyed, 187 suffered severe damage, and 259 experienced minor damage.[59] Losses across Leon County reached $10.3 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hermine#Florida

And that is just one of the affected counties - not even one on the coast where Hermine made landfall.

I suspect that climate change may change the definitions of storms as the climate regions shift away from the equator. Hurricane is a lot easier to say than "Post tropical Cyclone" anyway.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
7. Right but the storm should have lost much of strength (not rain) by the time ...
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 11:01 AM
Oct 2017

... it reached Ireland because the colder water of the N. Atlantic should have
tempered the strength of the storm.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Yes, but we saw the massive damage that Sandy did on the east coast.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

Even here in Boston it was enough to shut down the city for a day.

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
16. It's journalistic shorthand/common parlance vs. technical, and you misunderstand it.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 05:13 PM
Oct 2017

Technically, a hurricane is a strong cyclonic tropical storm in the west Atlantic.

In common terms, it refers to any storm with winds of Beaufort force 12 (74 mph) or higher.

Whether it's technically a hurricane or not doesn't have to do with wind speed/destructiveness, it's to do with location. Very strong storms with "hurricane"-force winds can occur outside the tropics and western Atlantic. In the north-west Pacific they're called typhoons. In the Indian Ocean and South Pacific they're just called cyclones. In the west of Scotland, they're called a good laundry drying day, a "two-pegger".

Technically, yes, Ophelia is a post-tropical cyclone, just because of its location. That doesn't make it less destructive than a hurricane. Take a look at some of these wind speeds recorded today in the UK:









 

johnnylol

(31 posts)
17. hurricane ophelia
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 05:48 PM
Oct 2017

it is true non tropical cyclones can have powerful winds but their winds are not concentrated like in a hurricane.. these winds go out many hundreds of miles away from the center...

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
18. I don't know what you're relying on for your definition.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 05:56 PM
Oct 2017

I'm relying on NOAA, which mentions nothing about "wind concentration" in its definitions:


A tropical cyclone is a rotating, organized system of clouds and thunderstorms that originates over tropical or subtropical waters and has a closed low-level circulation. Tropical cyclones rotate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere. They are classified as follows:

* Tropical Depression: A tropical cyclone with maximum sustained winds of 38 mph (33 knots) or less.
* Tropical Storm: A tropical cyclone with maximum sustained winds of 39 to 73 mph (34 to 63 knots).
* Hurricane: A tropical cyclone with maximum sustained winds of 74 mph (64 knots) or higher. In the western North Pacific, hurricanes are called typhoons; similar storms in the Indian Ocean and South Pacific Ocean are called cyclones.
* Major Hurricane: A tropical cyclone with maximum sustained winds of 111 mph (96 knots) or higher, corresponding to a Category 3, 4 or 5 on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/


The UK Met office press releases are referring to it as an "ex-hurricane", which seems a bit of a fudge.

We used to call these "gales", or just storms.

Post-tropical cyclone refers to the fact the storm's transitioned away from the tropics. It doesn't mean it used to be a tropical cyclone, but now isn't any more because it's gotten weaker (though I believe this one has).

Whatever, the sustained wind speeds today have been high enough at various times to compare with past hurricanes in the US.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
5. Ireland has pretty much shut down for the day.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 10:37 AM
Oct 2017

I've seen photos of trees down in Dublin, but nothing from the West yet.

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
8. Yes, 2 already dead. Needless deaths too unfortunately.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 11:03 AM
Oct 2017

One lady was killed when she was driving her car... A tree fell on her.

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
19. I think this is a different camera angle on that:
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:28 PM
Oct 2017



Frank @FrankRepOfWork

@CorksRedFM Douglas Community Schools roof flying... #Opheila #cork

Leith

(7,809 posts)
20. The Whole North Atlantic Is Going Nutso Right Now
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 07:54 PM
Oct 2017

Check this out. The east coast of Canada (is that what remains of Maria?), the southeast coast of Greenland, and pretty much the whole of Ireland and the UK. If I were in Norway, I'd be getting a little nervous right about now.

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=54.7;-41.3;3&l=wind-950hpa



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