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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:40 PM Oct 2017

Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory

Source: The Mercury News

Tesla fired hundreds of workers this week, including engineers, managers and factory workers, even as the company struggles to expand its manufacturing and product line.

The dismissals come at a crucial point for the company, which is pushing to increase vehicle production five-fold and reach a broader market with its new Model 3 sedan. The electric vehicle maker missed targets for producing the lower-cost sedan, manufacturing only 260 last quarter despite a wait list of more than 450,000 customers.

The company said this week’s dismissals were the result of a company-wide annual review, and insisted they were not layoffs. Some workers received promotions and bonuses, and the company expects to hire for the “vast majority” of new vacancies, a spokesman said.

“As with any company, especially one of over 33,000 employees, performance reviews also occasionally result in employee departures,” a spokesman said. “Tesla is continuing to grow and hire new employees around the world.”


Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/13/4819750/



Wonder what the real story behind the story is.
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Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory (Original Post) Zorro Oct 2017 OP
I too wonder what the real story is. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2017 #1
Think you are on to the real truth. Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #3
Unionization activities are legally protected. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #18
Perhaps they found infiltrators? coolsandy Oct 2017 #20
Do you mean industrial espionage? Jim Lane Oct 2017 #21
Yikes.....that's a lot of workers..... a kennedy Oct 2017 #2
So who has the short version on the BootinUp Oct 2017 #4
No layoff, no layoff. Hundreds fell asleep at their jobs so we fired them dalton99a Oct 2017 #5
Out of 33,000 SCVDem Oct 2017 #6
450.000 wait list. 260 delivered. jaysunb Oct 2017 #7
I think I see what the "real story behind the story is" jmowreader Oct 2017 #8
This can't go on. James48 Oct 2017 #9
It's disturbing. Wonder if they're going to go the way of Faraday, the other electric car... brush Oct 2017 #10
Faraday is/was a pipe dream Zorro Oct 2017 #13
A production target of 1500 vehicles and only 260 produced doesn't bode well. brush Oct 2017 #14
Musk predicted 6 months of initial production hell Zorro Oct 2017 #15
Tesla's gross profit margin is 24% Zorro Oct 2017 #12
Nothing to see here PuppyBismark Oct 2017 #11
Good luck trying the "not a layoff" line on EDD Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2017 #16
Uhm....400 to 700 given the boot out of 33k+ Xolodno Oct 2017 #17
Interesting reggaehead Oct 2017 #19

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,699 posts)
1. I too wonder what the real story is.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:44 PM
Oct 2017

I know a union has been pushing for unionization..........wonder if this had anything to do with that.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. Unionization activities are legally protected.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:46 AM
Oct 2017

As with any law, enforcement is imperfect. Still, if Tesla fired hundreds of workers, and it turns out that firings disproportionately affected people who'd been working for unionization, the employer will have a problem.

The National Labor Relations Board isn't currently known for diligent protection of workers' rights. A countervailing factor, however, is that Musk resigned from not one but two of Trump's business executive councils. On top of that, he's pushing electric cars, which can't sit well with all the oil people in the administration. I suspect that, in this one case, any allegation of employer misconduct that's remotely plausible would be pursued with great vigor.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. Do you mean industrial espionage?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:06 AM
Oct 2017

I'm sure that goes on but I don't think there would be this many of them.

Absent other evidence, I'm inclined to take this at face value. They did performance reviews and decided to sack the worst-performing 2% or so.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
6. Out of 33,000
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:13 PM
Oct 2017

finding hundreds of goof offs, chronic attendance problems, coming to work buzzed and flat out poor work quality wouldn't be a stretch.

The article did mention performance reviews and some were promoted.

This must have been a real 'come to Jesus' review to get that much movement.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
8. I think I see what the "real story behind the story is"
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:36 PM
Oct 2017

There are an estimated 450,000 people on the Model 3 reservation list. According to the article, TSLA projected building 1500 Model 3 cars in the last quarter - and only made 260. I realize this is a brand new model and they need time to sort out production issues...but missing your production target that badly is a catastrophe. You KNOW heads were going to roll over that one.

James48

(4,440 posts)
9. This can't go on.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:00 PM
Oct 2017

Tessa is losing money on every car it makes. It's always promised what it can never deliver.

Companies like GM and Ford struggle to make profits and survive. Right now the auto industry just had a great 2016, and demand is beginning to fall. But GM and Ford are still profitable, whereas Teska is still losing money on every single car it makes.

It is only a matter if time before the stock market realizes that Tessa must either do better than break even, or go out of business entirely.

brush

(53,847 posts)
10. It's disturbing. Wonder if they're going to go the way of Faraday, the other electric car...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:08 PM
Oct 2017

company that was supposed to come to Nevada but has yet to produce anything.

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
13. Faraday is/was a pipe dream
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:24 PM
Oct 2017

Tesla has delivered several hundred thousand of the most advanced electric cars on the road.

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
15. Musk predicted 6 months of initial production hell
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:29 PM
Oct 2017

That's the stage Model 3 production is in right now.

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
12. Tesla's gross profit margin is 24%
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:22 PM
Oct 2017

That's pretty decent.

Tesla does report quarterly losses due to the massive capital expenditures in building out that $1B+ gigafactory battery plant, among other things.

I would not bet against someone who manages to routinely land a rocket's first stage on an ocean barge.

PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
11. Nothing to see here
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:19 PM
Oct 2017

It seems that many commenting here have never worked in a large company. Not doubt there were a number of individuals who did not do a good job and their reviews showed it. I'm surprised the number is so low. It tells me that Tesla is indeed committed to quality and those who do not meet that standard were asked to leave.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
16. Good luck trying the "not a layoff" line on EDD
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:21 AM
Oct 2017

Hundreds of simultaneous performance related terminations? Yeah... you morons have fun with that.

Xolodno

(6,401 posts)
17. Uhm....400 to 700 given the boot out of 33k+
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:16 AM
Oct 2017

Sounds like a small department got killed off when they realized they weren't going to get the benefit they thought....or thought, the resources could be better utilized somewhere else.

Sounds like he news site is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

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