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highplainsdem

(49,022 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:17 PM Oct 2017

Trump: If NFL had suspended Kaepernick we wouldn't have 'a problem'

Source: The Hill

President Trump said in an interview scheduled to air Wednesday night that the current controversy over protests in the NFL would not be “a problem” had the NFL originally suspended Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during the national anthem.

“I watched Colin Kaepernick and I thought it was terrible. And then it got bigger and bigger and started mushrooming. And frankly the NFL should have suspended him for one game and he would have never done it again,” Trump told Fox News’ “Hannity.”

“They could have then suspended him for two games and they could have suspended him again if he did it a third time, for the season, and you would never have had a problem," he said. "But I will tell you - you cannot disrespect our country, our flag, our anthem, you cannot do that.”

The comments from the president are his latest response to a controversy that has stretched over several weeks since Trump first suggested NFL owners fire players who choose to kneel, rather than stand, during the national anthem.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/355041-trump-if-nfl-had-suspended-kaepernick-we-wouldnt-have-a-problem

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Trump: If NFL had suspended Kaepernick we wouldn't have 'a problem' (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2017 OP
Sig Heil all the way! bucolic_frolic Oct 2017 #1
Always good to hear from a failed USFL owner. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #2
Our fucking pResident is using his power to micromanage sports teams. forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #34
I wish the hell this OCD racist would STFU ! democratisphere Oct 2017 #3
and if A*hole Comey... Podkayne K Oct 2017 #4
Repeating: If the Fucking Moron wasn't the illegal president rurallib Oct 2017 #13
This is getting worse and we're fueling it ffr Oct 2017 #5
kneeling is not a sign of disrespect. never has been. unblock Oct 2017 #6
Nice words!! Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #8
I was thinking about that also They_Live Oct 2017 #19
Thats it 100% madokie Oct 2017 #29
Play it on the hour at the White House if it is so damn important Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #7
Twitler is lying again. I saw his mouth move. truthisfreedom Oct 2017 #9
You're sure it was his mouth? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2017 #10
Well, it was one of his sphincter like orifices... n/t Rollo Oct 2017 #37
Fuck him and his whole evil army. MontanaMama Oct 2017 #11
I watched Colin Kaepernick and I thought it was terrible." DK504 Oct 2017 #12
We are bound together by a Constitution.. Let's remember the 1st amendment. YOHABLO Oct 2017 #14
While we're at it, remember the 25th nt Xipe Totec Oct 2017 #22
And the owners/teams/NFL have the right to discipline or terminate players' employment madville Oct 2017 #42
If More people had voted against DT instead of voting third-party raccoon Oct 2017 #15
Take the Moron's phone away and "we wouldn't have 'a problem' " mpcamb Oct 2017 #16
Northern California is burning up and the moron is talking about football? jalan48 Oct 2017 #17
He doesn't give a fuck about CALIFORNIA yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #18
Had 78,000 people voted for HRC, we wouldn't be talking about you, now would we? ffr Oct 2017 #20
If an imbecile hadn't been elected POTUS, we wouldn't have a problem either. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2017 #21
If Congress did their job and "suspended" trump, we wouldn't have this problem world wide wally Oct 2017 #23
It's not up to congress onenote Oct 2017 #24
If all the AA players in the NFL decided to boycott the game for a few weeks Best_man23 Oct 2017 #25
Fuck that guy Lotusflower70 Oct 2017 #26
If congress would impeach and convict Trump, we wouldn't have a bigger problem DBoon Oct 2017 #27
President Shit For Brains strikes (yet) again BeyondGeography Oct 2017 #28
Don't repeat his words sharedvalues Oct 2017 #30
I, for one, am sick and tired of his goddamned lies GusBob Oct 2017 #33
Yes! If we ignore his words he will stop. sharedvalues Oct 2017 #38
"IF THAT BOY KNEW HIS PLACE...", stated President Bull Connor. bullwinkle428 Oct 2017 #31
Kapernick was no longer on a team, only 6 players knelt before DT opened his mouth GusBob Oct 2017 #32
Putin pays him, so yes sharedvalues Oct 2017 #39
We'll have a problem BHDem53 Oct 2017 #35
If Congress would impeach and convict Trump, this nation's biggest problem would disappear... n/t Rollo Oct 2017 #36
If the owners or the NFL... Smickey Oct 2017 #40
As a Constitutional law professor he would know this isn't a 1st Amendment issue madville Oct 2017 #41
Fox News is the one that kept this bullshit going. Initech Oct 2017 #43
If voters had done due diligence last November, we wouldn't have "a problem." Vinca Oct 2017 #44

rurallib

(62,433 posts)
13. Repeating: If the Fucking Moron wasn't the illegal president
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:36 PM
Oct 2017

we wouldn't have this problem.

That needs to be shouted from the tallest buildings.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
6. kneeling is not a sign of disrespect. never has been.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:24 PM
Oct 2017

kneeling before royalty shows no disrespect.
kneeling while praying shows no disrespect.
kneeling when proposing shows no disrespect.

if anything, it conveys the opposite

right-wing snowflakes are simply lying to claim to be offended.
they're offended because a black person is complaining about black people getting killed for no good reason.

not because he's kneeling, but because he's pointing out something they want to sweep under the carpet.


MontanaMama

(23,334 posts)
11. Fuck him and his whole evil army.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:31 PM
Oct 2017

I am SO angry tonight. This shit has to stop. Somebody had to start the 25th amendment thing. Why does NOBODY in a prominent position stand up to this MORON? WHY? He can't do anything, he is impotent if people stand up to him.

In other news, I just heard a general on Chris Hayes (didn't get his name, I'm cooking dinner) state that Dotard has a "screw loose". OMG! I am thinking it would be irresponsible to NOT have a talk with my middle schooler about having a family emergency plan in place in case he does the unthinkable.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
12. I watched Colin Kaepernick and I thought it was terrible."
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:34 PM
Oct 2017

When the hell did this Moron think this started, last week?

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
14. We are bound together by a Constitution.. Let's remember the 1st amendment.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:36 PM
Oct 2017

And yes it gives us the right to demonstratively express ourselves.

madville

(7,412 posts)
42. And the owners/teams/NFL have the right to discipline or terminate players' employment
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 11:56 AM
Oct 2017

within the terms of their agreed upon collective bargaining agreement. The 1st Amendment of the Constitution has no weight in a private employee/employer relationship just like any other private job, people get legally (and many times rightfully) fired or disciplined at work for things like social media posts all the time, it's not a 1st Amendment issue.

raccoon

(31,117 posts)
15. If More people had voted against DT instead of voting third-party
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:36 PM
Oct 2017

If More people had voted against DT instead of voting third-party or staying home, we wouldn't have a problem.

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
18. He doesn't give a fuck about CALIFORNIA
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:51 PM
Oct 2017

REMEMBER, this is Donald's world, we are just burning in it.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
20. Had 78,000 people voted for HRC, we wouldn't be talking about you, now would we?
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:28 PM
Oct 2017

Be ready for impeachment or worse, Dotard!

onenote

(42,737 posts)
24. It's not up to congress
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:52 PM
Oct 2017

The VP and either a majority on the cabinet or the majority of a body convened for the purpose of determining whether the president is able to discharge the duties and obligations of the office must concur

Best_man23

(4,907 posts)
25. If all the AA players in the NFL decided to boycott the game for a few weeks
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:27 PM
Oct 2017

The NFL would not have enough front line and reserve players to air more than 3 or 4 games.

African American players threatened to boycott the 1965 AFL All Star game because of how the host city (New Orleans) treated them. The AFL moved the All Star game to Houston as a result. Boycotts work. I could see current players deciding to not play for teams and owners who appear to be sucking up to Cheetolini.

DBoon

(22,395 posts)
27. If congress would impeach and convict Trump, we wouldn't have a bigger problem
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:14 PM
Oct 2017

We would eliminate much bigger problem than a few football players kneeling before the US flag

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
30. Don't repeat his words
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:58 PM
Oct 2017

Tell the Hill.
https://georgelakoff.com/2016/12/15/how-to-help-trump/

"When you repeat Trump, you help Trump. You do this by spreading his message wide and far.

Nobody knows this better than Trump. Trump, as a media master, knows how to frame a debate. When he picks a fight, he does so deliberately. He tweets or says outrageous things, knowing they will be repeated millions and millions of times. When the news media and Democrats repeat Trump’s frames, they are strengthening those frames by ensuring that tens of millions of Americans hear them repeated over and over again.




Better headline and post title:
"Trump tries to distract from racism, Puerto Rico disaster, Russia - with more old NFL crap."

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
38. Yes! If we ignore his words he will stop.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:46 PM
Oct 2017

Attention economy is exactly right.

News outlets will have to figure out a way to deal with efforts to deflect attention away from what is important.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
32. Kapernick was no longer on a team, only 6 players knelt before DT opened his mouth
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:06 AM
Oct 2017

He made it a problem and he did it on purpose to divide the country

Evertytime this asshole speaks, Putin laughs

Smickey

(3,334 posts)
40. If the owners or the NFL...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 11:00 AM
Oct 2017

take action against the first amendment rights of the players, President Obama should be their lawyer and if necessary take it to the Supreme Court. He was a constitutional law professor at Harvard right?

madville

(7,412 posts)
41. As a Constitutional law professor he would know this isn't a 1st Amendment issue
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 11:49 AM
Oct 2017

The government is not restricting their speech. Just like when politicians "talk" about restricting gun rights, it's not actually violating the 2nd Amendment because it's just talk.

Their employer, the team/NFL, has the right to discipline the players or terminate their employment within the terms of their collective bargaining agreement. The 1st Amendment does not protect speech within a private employee/employer relationship.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
43. Fox News is the one that kept this bullshit going.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 01:58 PM
Oct 2017

And of course we have a president who watches way too much Fox News for his own good. Combine the two things, and well...

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