Trump: Filibuster Rule Is A 'Death Sentence' For Republicans

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo




By NICOLE LAFOND Published OCTOBER 6, 2017 12:39 PM

President Donald Trump reiterated his go-to solution for Senate stalemates during an interview with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, saying Senate Republicans need to get rid of the filibuster rule.

“I thought that when I got to the Oval Office, I would have a bill sitting on my desk, repeal and replace, a beautiful health care bill, and it didn’t happen,” he said in a clip of the interview that was released Friday. The full interview premieres Saturday on Huckabee’s new show for the Trinity Broadcasting Network. “But remember it didn’t happen because of a lot of Republicans and it happened, that horrible thing happened because of a few people, really a few people,” he said, referencing Republicans like Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) who weren’t shy about their opposition to the Senate’s repeal and replace plans this summer and fall.

But Trump cast the real blame for the Senate’s failure to get rid of Obamacare on a filibuster rule that allows the minority party in the Senate to force a 60-vote threshold on new legislation.

“And the problem we have is we have 52 senators and they have to get rid of the absolutely crazy voting where you need 60, it’s called the filibuster rule it’s a disaster, ok? It’s a disaster for the Republicans. They have to get rid of it. If they don’t get rid of it, it’s just a death sentence,” he said.

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[Achilleaze]

1. More whining from the Republican loser

Who has not accomplished a damn thing. Whiny Republican losers are a bore.

[red dog 1]

22. He accomplished one thing

He chose an ultra-conservative Supreme Court justice to replace Scalia, which has turned the 4-4 into 5-4 that is now, once again, a right-wing Supreme Court.

[underpants]

2. that horrible thing happened because of a few people, really a few people

Couldn't agree more

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Can the tax plan pass with 51?

I admit I should know more about this, but I did predict that any rule that can be changed, ANY rule, will be, eventually by these filthy fucking racist god damn pricks.

[Lochloosa]

13. Under reconciliation it can pass with 50 and Pence as the tie breaker.

[Eliot Rosewater]

14. Is that only because of an existing rule that the cons can change?

Filibuster?


i.e. forget reconciliation for the sake of my question, can the Senate change a rule that would allow them to pass this with 50+?

[Lochloosa]

17. Ok. Hang in there with me.

If the house passes a budget, which they have done, and the Senate passes the exact same bill, then it can be done under reconciliation. 50 plus 1 votes.

If the Senate passes a different bill it would require 60 votes to bring it to the floor for a vote. It would then be able to pass with 50 plus 1 votes.

Getting over the 60 votes to bring it to a vote is the hurdle.

There are weapons in the Dems bag to try and slow it down but it the repugs want to pass it they can.

[red dog 1]

23. Do you think Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and John McCain will go along with a reconciliation vote?

McCain is on record as not supporting reconciliation, but I don't know about the other two.
If all three senators vote no on reconciliation, that only gives the Turtle 49 votes.

[karynnj]

25. No - I think the norm is that for budget bills that just 50 (plus 1) is needed

What IS different is that they have added as "amendments" bills that are totally related to try to get them passed this way. This needs to pass the parliamentarian. Note there HAVE been years when no budget is passed (2014 for example). Another point is that putting something in the budget does NOT make it happen -- an appropriations bill that includes it must also be passed.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. The Senate can only do something like up to 3 bills by reconcilliation per fiscal year

and even then, the items in the bill must be "budget neutral". I.e., there are certain restrictions on what can be in reconciliation legislation (because really, the method is assuming that specific details would be worked out under separate legislation, which itself would require 60 votes).

Since money bills must originate in the House, and assuming the House is in cahoots with the Senate, then the House version has to be written so that it would be acceptable in the Senate under the Senate reconciliation rules and the Parliamentarian would be the one to decide if it is.

[rzemanfl]

4. I'm good with a death sentence for Republicans. When can we start? n/t

[underpants]

5. Um Congress had only been in session since Jan. 3rd

Plus this isn't your little bubble, just because you have a whim doesn't mean everyone falls all over themselves trying to do it.

Dumbass.

[NCjack]

6. OK, Donald. As soon as DEMs take over, we will change the filibuster rule. nt

[keithbvadu2]

7. Both parties have had a chance to kill the filibuster and did not do it.

Both parties have had a chance to kill the filibuster and did not do it.

They both recognize that it can be useful to them in the future.

[Scruffy1]

20. I remebber whe Harry Reid was criticized for not going nuclear.

i really think he got a few R's to agree that if he didn't do it they wouldn't do it either. Even some R's know the basic rule of politics: you can lie and cheat, but you can't go back on your word.

[alarimer]

8. Huh? They couldn't even get 51 votes for their "health care" bills.

So, maybe it's not the filibuster. Maybe it's because these are terrible bills.

[turbinetree]

9. Hey Turnip, you need to speak with someone, I have an idea..............

because your a danger to yourself and everyone else on the planet, think I will get this book....................

[WhiteTara]

12. yeah, go talk to Mueller.

You will feel so much better when you unburden yourself of all your crimes.

[turbinetree]

16. He really is a MORON

he has no clue what is right and how to be right, to not harm anyone, all he wants to do is get self aggrandizement of achieving.

He would need a sleeping bag for as long as he would be on that couch, he has no clue, none, zilch, to what reality is suppose to be, his iris in his eyes are just about solid black, he is insane ..........

And as for Mueller, he would or could ask that a Psychiatrists be in the room, with assistance's holding him down

[George II]

10. It's been part of the Senate rules for more than 150 years.

[Angry Dragon]

11. republicans never complain when they used it

funny how that works

[C_U_L8R]

15. Moron says what?

Trumpie - that's the way democracy works. Sorry you don't like it. Why don't you leave.

[louis-t]

18. Filibuster rule is not a death sentence.

Being the party of stupid is a death sentence.

[Make7]

19. Four years ago he seemed to feel differently about the filibuster...

[Ken Burch]

21. Funny...they were fine with it in 2009....

[red dog 1]

24. Kick!

I guess all we can do is hope that this vote will go the same as the Trumpcare vote.
But, if McCain is the only senator opposed to a reconciliation vote, then Trump wins,
(and the top 1 percent wins) and the rest of us lose.

[ashredux]

27. Sen. Corker is now a "free agent"

[red dog 1]

28. "Speaking Freely, Retiring Sen Corker Warms GOP He Could Oppose tax Plan" (NPR)

If you Google "Sen. Bob Corker" you can click on the link to that article, as well as this one:
"Bob Corker just told the world What he really thinks of Donald Trump" (CNN)

[unblock]

26. yeah, donnie, go tell hillary how you think we should always go with majority rule....

[Initech]

30. STFU Donnie!!!!