We send a report every morning to ICE: Motel 6 reportedly outing guests to immigration officials
Source: Think Progress
Two Motel 6 locations in the Phoenix area are reportedly sending guest lists to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials on a daily basis. According to a report by the Phoenix New Times, this has resulted in at least 20 arrests at the two locations between February and August of this year.
Though neither management at the locations nor Motel 6s corporate office responded to questions about this practice, at least one employee was fairly forthcoming. We send a report every morning to ICE all the names of everybody that comes in, a front-desk clerk told the paper. Every morning at about 5 oclock, we do the audit and we push a button and it sends it to ICE.
ICE was mum about the investigative techniques it uses, but Phoenix Police department spokesperson Jonathan Howard confirmed that [o]n occasion and through informal contacts, various hotels and motels have shared their guest lists with officers.
Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/motel-6-ice-deportation-29e7bc932b63/
Do they have f*cking warrants? And do they just look at the skin and the language...................
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Lopez, Serena, Rafael, ....................and just send on over to ICE........................
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Smith, Jones, Johnson, O'Connell, Douglas, Collins...you get the picture
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I would think. So I don't see the point of that. They could just as easily look at the phone listings there and get the same info.
Unless the motel is a known place for newly arriving illegal immigrants. If so, would the motel want to lose customers?
ret5hd
(20,499 posts)and they get deported after one night...well, just saying'.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)from busting them for running a whorehouse.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)what would be the point? There are so many people in AZ with Spanish names, it's a given that the guest list at a low-rate motel would be predominantly Spanish.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)"it's a given that the guest list at a low-rate motel would be predominantly Spanish"?
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)And it doesn't look good either -- for our country and world.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)What is racist is ICE assuming they can search hotels' books for guests with Hispanic names, without a warrant.
The point is that Hispanic surnames are so common in that area among Motel 6 guests that there is no way ICE can argue that a guest having a Hispanic surname establishes probable cause for a potential immigration violation. Indeed, I would argue it could never, alone, establish probable cause.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)But since you brought up the Irish, this is like saying if the British military looking for IRA terrorists went to a Northern Ireland low cost motel and asked for a list of guest names, you should expect most of them to be Irish surnames. The ethnically Irish in Northern Ireland tend to be poorer than the English of Northern Ireland. Therefore, the list would be useless in identifying IRA terrorists. Much MUCH more is needed to establish probable cause under these facts, where a type of last name is common for that establishment, last names do not in and of themselves create a probability of a certain status.
Capiche?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)So they would not likely be staying at 4 star hotels.
I lived in Dallas, which has a large hispanic population, in an area that had a large hispanic population. Some...maybe many, I don't know, were here illegally and did not speak English. If you were to stay at a low-cost motel, most of the people staying there would be hispanic because (1) there's a large hispanic population; and (2) the hispanic population makes less money.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)LS_Editor
(893 posts)Cadfael
(1,297 posts)It's a secret code message to ICE to send in a round up.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)Can't get the truth from the corporate or law enforcement
establishments because that is not in their business model.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)A hotel is not supposed to give out the names of their guests, just like they are not supposed to give out their home addresses or credit card numbers. The police do not have a warrant for this information and are violating the 4th Am prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure. This is unbelievable.
The hotels appear to be doing this to every single guest, whether the hotel has observed them committing a crime or not: "'We send a report every morning to ICE all the names of everybody that comes in,' a front-desk clerk told the paper." I would sue the shit out of Motel 6 for giving my name to ICE/cops.
mahatmakanejeeves
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SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)I didn't say the motel was violating the 4th Amendment.
But the motel probably did commit state law violations of various state consumer privacy protections like we have here in CA. And i could think of a few tort causes of action as well, to fill up my complaint against the motel. How about you, coumsel? Can you think of any causes of action against the motel?
byronius
(7,395 posts)Stupid, stupid, stupid.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)and 33 years of practice.
bucolic_frolic
(43,190 posts)and authorities are always after it.
Ronald Reagan told you what to do. Disinformation. Plausible deniability.
Few listened. Or knew what it meant.
miyazaki
(2,244 posts)Fuckers.
Best_man23
(4,898 posts)Than stay at a Motel 6. Sad to say.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)Mosby
(16,319 posts)Really bad neighborhood.
There is a 24 hour pot shop next door called the Urban Greenhouse, they have armed security at the entrance.
orleans
(34,060 posts)"UPDATE (10:32 PM): Motel 6 confirms that guest lists were shared with ICE and says the practice has now been discontinued."
(too late. damage done. fuck them.)