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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 05:13 AM Aug 2017

Harvey Damage Shuts Main Fuel Line From Texas to New York

Source: NBC News

Aug 31 2017, 12:57 am ET

Harvey Damage Shuts Main Fuel Line From Texas to New York

by Alex Johnson

The main pipeline carrying fuel from Texas to the East Coast is temporarily shutting down because of refinery outages related to Hurricane Harvey, the company that runs the pipeline said Wednesday night, dealing a potentially major blow to the already storm-ravaged U.S. fuel system. Colonial Pipeline Co., the biggest fuel transporter in the United States, said in a brief statement that "storm-related refinery shut-downs and the impact to Colonial's facilities" west of Lake Charles, Louisiana, had led it to close its line carrying diesel and jet fuel late Wednesday. It said it would close its line carrying gasoline on Thursday.

The Colonial Pipeline originates in Texas and travels through Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania and New Jersey. The pipeline transports more than 3 million barrels of diesel, gasoline and jet fuel each day from Houston to New York Harbor, making it the main provider for major cities like New York, Atlanta and Washington, D.C.

The news immediately sent U.S. gasoline prices to a two-year high, Reuters reported Wednesday night. Imports can't make up for this," it quoted an East Coast market analyst as saying. "This is going to be the worst thing the U.S. has seen in decades from an energy standpoint."

Even before the announcement, Harvey — which was downgraded to a tropical depression Wednesday as it moved farther inland — had already shut down the nation's largest refinery operations, halting about 20 percent of the country's daily supply of fuel. Half of the 26 refineries that connect to Colonial's system are located between Houston and Lake Charles, the company said. Colonial gave no timetable for bringing the critical conduits back online.
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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/harvey-damage-shuts-main-fuel-line-texas-new-york-n797656



If your car is low on fuel, get it filled now.
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Harvey Damage Shuts Main Fuel Line From Texas to New York (Original Post) nitpicker Aug 2017 OP
yep DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #1
Let the gasoline price gouging begin. democratisphere Aug 2017 #2
Straight out of the Enron playbook ToxMarz Aug 2017 #3
Yeah, right. No unclean motives behind this I'm sure bitterross Aug 2017 #4
The problem is not the pipeline itself. oneshooter Aug 2017 #5
Great post orangecrush Aug 2017 #10
Well That's Weird. jayfish Aug 2017 #6
There are many refineries in the mid-west hack89 Aug 2017 #7
We still have a couple here in Philly metro BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #11
Texas, 30% of US refinery capacity. Igel Aug 2017 #8
Our local gas station in NH raised the price 15 cents overnight. Vinca Aug 2017 #9

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. yep
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 05:26 AM
Aug 2017

and they will use this to a) keep prices high till xmas and B) demand more gulf refineries aka accidents waiting to happen.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
4. Yeah, right. No unclean motives behind this I'm sure
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 08:54 AM
Aug 2017


This doesn't surprise me in the least. Not at a time when they are all out to get more pipelines built. This will be cited over and over again as a reason they need more pipelines.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
5. The problem is not the pipeline itself.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 10:19 AM
Aug 2017

It is that there is only a limited amount of storage space, and no power to the pumps to move the product to the pipeline. The plants are shut down and it will be anywhere from a week to a month to get production started again.

From my experience in the plants it may take as long as several months. After being flooded, they still are, precautions are used. All flooded electric motors (pumps) will have to be dried out and cleaned, pipes with hot product in them will have to be removed and the now cold, hard product, removed. Any plant control buildings that were flooded will have to be cleaned and the computers repaired/replaced. And so on and so on. I base this on my 18 years working in these plants.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
6. Well That's Weird.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 10:29 AM
Aug 2017

Any time a, non-catastrophic, unexplainable price spike occurs in my area (Mid-West) it's blamed on regional refinery issues. Now they are going to tell me that refined fuel products are pumped directly from Texas! Utter bullshit!

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
11. We still have a couple here in Philly metro
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 12:06 PM
Aug 2017

At one time, we had the largest refinery infrastructure on the east coast (and it greeted people who flew in here and traveled to downtown )



But much of that has been shut down or converted.

Thing is, it will depend on what these other refineries are configured to process in terms of crude - sweet vs sour vs the muckety muck stuff. One of the newest owners here (PES, which took over the Sun refinery) is doing shale oil -



http://northamericanshalemagazine.com/articles/374/philadelphia-refiners-bakken-rail-project-saves-company

I remember as a kid in the '60s & '70s and how whenever we went down to South Philly on the expressway right past the refineries, we ALWAYS had to close the car windows until we were past them.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
8. Texas, 30% of US refinery capacity.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 11:46 AM
Aug 2017

Iowa, much less.

On the other hand, if you're at 99.5% use even a one percentage decrease can produce a 0.5% shortfall in supply. This produces a small bidding war.

And if it's summer and a state's using a boutique mix of hydrocarbons, alcohol, and other chemicals then there may only be 5-10 refineries producing the stuff. Lose one and you're looking at a 10-20% shortfall in supply. That produces a large bidding war.

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