Vast international child-porn network uncovered
Source: Associated Press (via Raleigh News & Observer)
What they found on Arnett's computer was unlike anything some of the investigators had ever come across: long, graphic, online chats about his desire to abduct, kill and eat children. They said he had also made photos of a naked 2-year-old boy in a roasting pan inside his oven. The child and two other boys Arnett allegedly abused and photographed were later identified and found alive.
In July, authorities arrested four men they say had online discussions with Arnett about kidnapping and eating children. Those arrested included Ronald Brown, a children's puppeteer from Largo, Fla. (A YouTube video shows Brown during an appearance on a Christian TV kids show in the 1980s. In the video, he tells a child puppet that he did the right thing by refusing to look at "dirty pictures" some other youngsters tried to show him.)
In excerpts of an online chat between Arnett and Brown from 2011, the two men appear to be discussing their desire to cook a child for Easter.
"he would make a fine Easter feast," Arnett says. "yes, his thighs and butt cheeks would be fantastic for Easter," Brown responds.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/08/04/2244828/vast-international-child-porn.html#storylink=cpy
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God help us. I'm at such a loss when I read horrific stories such as these.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)And I'd sleep just fine, too.
Beyond horrific.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Evil. And I share your wish for the DP for these pervs, but the SCOTUS has said that unless they also kill, child rapists cannot be sentenced to a just death.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)There should never be a free day for any of those found to be child molesters.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)My abuser is still walking around free, and too many of my family members still make excuses for his behavior.
Archae
(46,328 posts)Or was/is he a "pillar of the community?"
chervilant
(8,267 posts)First, he was my brother-in-law (my sister did divorce him, because he was also a batterer). Second, everyone in the family called him "Ace," because they all thought he was all that and a bag of chips. Third, my father was an alcoholic, abusive man. Geez, I could go on, and on. Suffice it to say, he perped on me and my two sisters, and we're still dealing with the consequences.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)It's amazing that people can't see beyond the facade. When I worked with foster kids, I foundthat you can not tell a pedophile by the way they look. Only when you get to know them can you see the little "tells" of their terrible sickness. He should be quarantined to protect the rest of society, you especially.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)My abuser is near the end of his life on this planet. He must go to his grave with the knowledge that he perped on three little girls (that we know of). His children (my nieces and nephew) must make their peace with this sordid family history. My sisters (the other two survivors of his sickness) have continued to deny that the abuse affected them in any way. Meanwhile, they have serious trust, anger, intimacy and power issues that directly relate to the abuse.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)to you and your family.
Namaste
primavera
(5,191 posts)Is there an "evil" gene in some people's chromosomes? Or are we going to degenerate into religious superstition and claim that it's the work of Satan? No, there is no such thing as "evil"; these guys are sick - terribly, horrifically, heartbreakingly sick and, with our primitive understanding of mental illness, probably incurably so.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)But we know it when we see it. How come a lot of the "They're sick" types like yourself have trouble recognizing evil in a brutal criminal, yet have no trouble distinguishing it in a bankster?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Evil comes from the observer, not the thing being observed.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)to rehabilitate a pedophile, I have to agree. Either that or life without parole.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)clue are heroes, straight up.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)There was an episode of Miami Vice where Crocket had to get into the mind of a guy breaking into homes and he almost went insane.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/51373
Citizen Worker
(1,785 posts)Response to zazen (Original post)
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)"Well, when we first got the phone call, we thought there's no way. You guys got the wrong guy," she said. The Associated Press does not identify victims of sexual abuse or their families.
But then investigators showed her photos Arnett had allegedly taken of her son with a shirt and no pants.
"Regret? For sending my son with a sick-minded guy, that's the only regret I have. I had no idea," she said. "It's depressing."
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so she did not find it strange somehow that this guy apparently wanted to spend weekends with a 2 year old that was not a relative?
and the most she can utter is that it's depressing?!!?! what about the damage done to her son?
zazen
(2,978 posts)I like to think she's in shock.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Not that I think they should be, but a lot of people would do well to take a parenting class BEFORE they make the decision to have children. Maybe some of them would decide to eschew the opportunity.
That's an obtuse, or lazy, or irresponsible, or uncaring, parent. She shouldn't be depressed, she should be HORRIFIED, angry, enraged.
She sounds like she's bummed because she lost the free babysitter so she could go out bar-hopping, or something...
Selatius
(20,441 posts)Whether or not people decide to change their habits after they have children is a whole different story altogether. Many don't.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)and the mother, like so many involved in the Catholic Perv Cult...how could a family friend/priest/football coach/etc. do such things?
Amazing.
Nay
(12,051 posts)as others here have said, didn't ANY bells start ringing in her head about why an adult male actively wanted her 2-yr-old boy for a whole weekend? It could ONLY be for ugly reasons, lady! Normal guys are out with women, playing football, going to the bars, surfing the net, etc. -- they aren't trolling for 2-yr-olds!!!!!!
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Because the most dangerous molesters are always kind, charming, generous and 100% trustworthy...The abuse doesn't start ten seconds after meeting the child, he slowly and methodically works his way into the parents and child's friendship...
Always in a bust like this, you can count on the standard "HIM? Arrested? How can that be? He was always so good with kids! I would have trusted him with my own!!" -from a neighbor
Archae
(46,328 posts)I'd say 99 -100%.
Oh and they're all "good Christians."
sadbear
(4,340 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)Some people go into politics for the power just as some people abuse children for the power, this also applies to some people who are drawn to religion. There has been a good deal of frustration for people who want to help these children due to these powerful people.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Put every last one of them behind bars forever. Just throw away the key.
zazen
(2,978 posts)And yet there are humans who risk life and limb to stop these monstrosities. That, and the survivors who _don't_ grow up to molest but come out of it helping other survivors, gives me hope.
But the story (and photos of) a "bound two-year-old boy" who was raped?
It's so hard not to want to hack these monsters to death with a dull axe. If I were the parent, they'd have to incarcerate me or drug me into oblivion. Those poor babies.
zazen
(2,978 posts)I really dislike that I have this reaction. It's not fair to good men who seek careers that involve kids, but it's a truism that all child molesters try to get work that gives them exposure to this "supply." Most men who work with children aren't child molesters, but all child molesters find ways to work with children. So, maybe it's 0.001% of men, but I still find myself mentally reflecting on every guy I know in pediatrics, child therapy, elementary school, etc., and wondering if they're secretly the monster whom no one ever suspected.
Truly, I hate myself for doing this, but what parent wouldn't have this worry?
How do y'all handle this?
Women can molest too, but it tends to be pubescent guys or they're in the pedophilia network for the money. I just don't think it's anywhere near the percentage of pedophiles who are male.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"How do y'all handle this? "
I worked for TX Dept of Child Protective Services as a caseworker for just over five years. When my five-year review came up, I finally realized I'd either have to quit, or I would become an alcoholic. So I suppose that in the long run, I didn't deal with it, I just walked away from it, and have since repressed a lot of things I saw and memories I had.
"I hate that this leads me to mistrust men who work with children..."
Don't. When it comes to child abuse, both sexes seemed equally represented, but in the myriad of molestation cases I reviewed, there was only one instance of an adult female being involved-- all other cases were perpetrated by adult males.
zazen
(2,978 posts)as we like to say.
It's appalling that the people who do this work are understaffed, underpaid, overworked, and rather organizationally powerless. This is some of the most difficult work around. I have a relative who's a family services social worker in Appalachia and the stories are bloodcurdling. This person also has to adopt every abandoned animal these drug abusing parents leave behind (the children get temporary homes). I've told her she needs to apply for non-profit status since she's at about 15 animals now. She even rescued someone's abandoned pet tarantula!
Thank you for sticking it out five years. I couldn't have stuck it out five hours.
Baitball Blogger
(46,715 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)including Northern California.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)And he leaves it up for the world to see?
See, I'd become so obsessive with this. The little boy in the photo is clearly the son of the real new "FB friend," but why was he friending the Dad? To get to the little boy? It's a natural conclusion!
I feel like a voyeur but I want to comb through this monster's FB postings to see what I can glean that would help me predict this in others.
What a weird age in which we live.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)The Wizard
(12,545 posts)and may the victims get as much help as necessary to make sense of the world in which they live.
cindyperry2010
(846 posts)the damage that happens when people do this
PDJane
(10,103 posts)The people who have to dig through the muck on the computers, noting every detail, so that these people can be brought to justice are saints. Nineteen weeks? What kind of person looks at a 19 week old baby and sees a sex object?
The kind of people who need that kind of control over another person, and who can convince themselves that they really 'love' children (and most of them do), are just beyond my ability to grant sympathy. Can't do it. Even when I know, intellectually, what drives a person, I can't do it.
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)But in this case, I would be willing to put a gun to these things heads and pull the trigger. Note-I call them things because it's hard to believe a human would consider actually eating children. I want to beat these creatures to within an inch of their lives and then just throw them in with some piranhas or something. This is just a sick story. Very glad the police arrested them.
elbloggoZY27
(283 posts)I recently have read some very interesting articles about the human brain and it's extreme complexity.
Surely I am a lay person in this area but find what in this case a very extreme case at best. What is actually going on in the Brains of these offenders is way past my knowledge.
Those men or women in some cases who commit these extreme acts or fantasies are surely not operating in what is normal to the vast majority of us.
Not to many years ago a Mother sexually attacked and killed her Daughters friend who came to visit.
I am surely admitting that these type of crimes are the most horrific, ugly and vile by any standard.
However, killing these perpetrators may rid our society of them permanently but to have Behavioral Scientists and Forensic Psychiatrists examine & study them may be more productive to understand what makes them tick.
At the present though finding them and locking them up if convicted at least protects our children to some degree.
In closing, way to many crimes against children are perpetrated every day here in the United States and around the world. These truly vile abominations must be stopped.
NEOBuckeye
(2,781 posts)What a very sick man. The Boogeyman manifest.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)How many of these things are there?
They are popping up like hydra heads.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)kids and she tells me that older kids are getting young children involved with watching/looking at porn. I was stunned.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)I wish we knew more about what causes this and what we can do to prevent it.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)how sick and vile and numerous these creatures of filth are.
anything even HINTING at child porn or abuse should not be acceptable.