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herding cats

(19,566 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:07 PM Aug 2017

Americas neo-Nazis are raising money, planning more rallies

Source: McClatchy

WASHINGTON
White supremacists say they are just warming up.

Violence at a neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, this weekend served as only the latest data point on a dramatically escalating trendline of hate-group activity.

White supremacists picked up the pace in 2008, after the election of the first African American president, and again this year as white-power groups saw Donald Trump’s win as an opportunity to move from the fringes toward the near mainstream of political discourse.

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Already, white supremacist groups have promised more rallies in more cities and have begun raising money to pay for the legal defense costs associated with charges that might come out of the Charlottesville violence.

Read more: http://amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article167141992.html

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Americas neo-Nazis are raising money, planning more rallies (Original Post) herding cats Aug 2017 OP
Oh hell yes, they are coming after us, all of us. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #1
That's their plan anyway. herding cats Aug 2017 #7
any publicity is good publicity nt msongs Aug 2017 #2
Better for us than them. They are not the America people were raised Hortensis Aug 2017 #14
May Morris Dee's SPLC be there to bankrupt them again, just like they did with muntrv Aug 2017 #3
Hopefully no more people have to die to take them down. herding cats Aug 2017 #8
I'd forgotten about that. But certainly noticed Jason Kessler's immediate Hortensis Aug 2017 #15
Major test for police is coming up. lark Aug 2017 #4
Problem is that they might be out-gunned in open carry locales. haele Aug 2017 #5
Copy, lark. Big "test" in Boston scheduled this Saturday (at the moment) - nt Leghorn21 Aug 2017 #6
Hope it doesn't go on. lark Aug 2017 #11
I won't hurry to criticize the Charlottesville police. There were a lot of weapons Hortensis Aug 2017 #16
I believe this is not so much about their cause, but to Chakaconcarne Aug 2017 #9
Well, at least Charlottesville is going to provide legal justifications for Hortensis Aug 2017 #17
Good. Every rally they have will be a shit show apnu Aug 2017 #10
sad part bora13 Aug 2017 #12
Who's funding them? Time to go after the funders! Initech Aug 2017 #13
+1000. I was wondering that myself. Notice, though, that the MSM Hortensis Aug 2017 #18
Don't hold your breath. Most of the funding is from Russia. PSPS Aug 2017 #19
America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won. keithbvadu2 Aug 2017 #20

herding cats

(19,566 posts)
7. That's their plan anyway.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:33 PM
Aug 2017

I'm just hoping it explodes in their vile faces and they end up having to slither back under a rock again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Better for us than them. They are not the America people were raised
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:37 PM
Aug 2017

to believe in, including most conservatives.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
3. May Morris Dee's SPLC be there to bankrupt them again, just like they did with
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:16 PM
Aug 2017

Thomas Metzger and his ilk.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. I'd forgotten about that. But certainly noticed Jason Kessler's immediate
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:42 PM
Aug 2017

denial that the murderer was a member of his organization and had no trouble understanding why. I used to work in commercial property and casualty insurance. Even if his organization obtained some, it doesn't cover or provide defense for illegal acts.

lark

(23,138 posts)
4. Major test for police is coming up.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:17 PM
Aug 2017

Are they going to stand by their white hater brethren and let them hurt counter-protestors and do nothing, like happened this weekend? Or will the police come out in force and make sure the Nazis can't get out of their lane and attack anyone? Were the white nationalists successful in infiltrating the police forces nation wide? We'll see what happens if the Nazis and KKK get permits.

haele

(12,667 posts)
5. Problem is that they might be out-gunned in open carry locales.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:27 PM
Aug 2017

Police aren't going to risk open warfare on the streets. It's one thing when it's a dozen robbing a bank with semi-automatics, it's another if there's a hundred or so Nazis dressed and armed up like they're getting ready to storm downtown Mosul to sweep for IS.
All that National Guard armory crap the DoD has been handing out to the police departments aren't really worth shit in hometown urban combat - where you want to preserve local infrastructure and businesses that are part of your neighborhood.
Armored vehicles and other heavy weaponry is only good for when you want to quickly blow the neighborhood up and let Gawd sort things out after you leave because you've got somewhere else to be.

Haele

lark

(23,138 posts)
11. Hope it doesn't go on.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

If, sadly enough, it does, I sure hope the police do a much much better job of keeping the assholes separated from anyone else.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. I won't hurry to criticize the Charlottesville police. There were a lot of weapons
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:46 PM
Aug 2017

in that crowd, including semiautomatic, a very serious tactical issue for the police, but no one was hurt by one of them. I certainly would tend to give credit for that to the authorities before I would the malignant bigots who brought them.

Chakaconcarne

(2,460 posts)
9. I believe this is not so much about their cause, but to
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:36 PM
Aug 2017

wreak havoc, cause economic damage to cities leaning progressive and to fire up people on the left to cause harm to them which brings lawsuits and money for their cause...

Think westboro on steroids.

It's really important we don't respond the way they want us to.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Well, at least Charlottesville is going to provide legal justifications for
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:48 PM
Aug 2017

other municipalities to deny or severely limit permits.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
10. Good. Every rally they have will be a shit show
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:42 PM
Aug 2017

They will self-id, they will be countered, they will bring weapons and get violent. They will be exposed and shamed, go to jail, lose jobs, and in general be ridiculed and shunned.

They are too stupid to know that what they do, in the day light, masks off, begs for repercussions. Their ancestors were smart enough to keep it in the dark, under a sheet, and in far-away places. These morons don't even have those wits.

bora13

(860 posts)
12. sad part
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:13 PM
Aug 2017

is that these klowns have a complete
playbook designed by the 3rd reich

kristallnacht for one.
the list goes on.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. +1000. I was wondering that myself. Notice, though, that the MSM
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:51 PM
Aug 2017

almost never mention the big funders behind the actions of public figures? One would think, for instance, that Pence or Ryan had never heard of "Charles who?" as the media discuss their actions. Coke?

PSPS

(13,608 posts)
19. Don't hold your breath. Most of the funding is from Russia.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

There was a series of stories a couple of weeks ago about how Putin and his various associates/oligarchs are funneling money to such right-wing groups not only here but in Europe as well. At least in Europe, they're talking about it and trying to do something about it. Here, though, not so much (or at all) for obvious reasons.

Another interesting aspect to this is that this Russian money is also flowing into the campaigns of Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Scott Walker and other GOP figures.

keithbvadu2

(36,869 posts)
20. America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:00 PM
Aug 2017

"Trump "emboldened" the Nazis

America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.

Yet here they are marching to "take back America".

" Michael Von Kotch, a Pennsylvania resident who called himself a Nazi, said the rally made him "proud to be white."

He said that he's long held white supremacist views and that Trump's election has "emboldened" him and the members of his own Nazi group. "

http://www.richmond.com/washingtonpost/uncategorized/alleged-driver-of-car-that-plowed-into-charlottesville-crowd-was/article_28385c62-9984-5c56-861c-1fe15eef8470.html

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